Himself of south korea is not in any way suggesting that trump should just accept. Be cautious, first engage at a lower level and trump is like no, i want to do it, lets announce it now. The south koreans end up making the announcement in the driveway in front of the white house. On every level, this is unprecedented, and yet on every level, this is par for the course and what we should expect with President Trump. Normally presumably you would have had the president say, lets think about it. Sure. Lets convene a National Security council meeting. Even president moon jaein, the south korean president all for engagement and negotiation, offered to meet with kim jongun he said if the continues are right, let me think about this. Ill get back to you. President trump normal situation should have done convene a meeting and talk about pros and cons of having such a Summit Meeting with kim jongun, and then coordinate the policy and
then announce it. So stanley, whats wrong with trying this . The Trump Argument i suppose would be look, weve tried all that kind of thing. Why not do something out of the box . Theres nothing wrong with trying this. I think extraordinary times require extraordinary measures, and in my view, President Trump had no choice. First, this had been clearly orchestrated by president moon who invested enormous Political Capital and prestige sending his National Security adviser to personally brief the president , carrying the invitation. It would have been a massive insult to president moon, had he not accepted it and it would have been a massive insult to kim jongun. Furthermore, i think the president , because of the way he runs the white house, does not have the luxury that president clinton had, where he could send Secretary Albright, Ambassador Sherman and a very large team. We had four assistant secretaries, to pave the way for a trip. Is secretary tillerson really going to be able to represent the u. S. On north korea policy,
after the way the president has publicly treated him three times . Is this the right time for National Security adviser mcmaster reportedly on the way out to be heading the delegation . You cant have the secretary of defense, so really, it is up to President Trump to start it, but remember, the key thing, the point that i agree with the white house and i hope they stick to it, that this is not a negotiation. Negotiation requires endless rounds of preparation and detail. This is a meeting, and if a meeting can start to form the beginnings of a relationship, and im not saying friendship, if a meeting can somewhat reduce the tensions and most importantly if a meeting can end up with an agreement on a process for negotiations, it is then worth the risk. Sue mi terry the north wanted this meeting for a long time because this is a very repressive regime and this provides incredible legitimacy to the regime. North koreans have sought a meeting with the u. S. President for years. President bush was invited to
meet with him. It normalizes the country, but i have other concerns. Trump might not see this as just a beginning of the negotiation. What if he concludes, what if he agrees to Something Like you know, north koreans say if their Regime Security is guaranteed they might give up nuclear weapons. They want to break up the u. S. south korea alliance, they want to kick off the u. S. Forces off the Korean Peninsula. I dont have confidence mr. Trump is going to start something. What if he decides hey, this might work or at the other end i think victor chan was absolutely right when he said you have a premature negotiation. If it falls through, there is no recourse. You already met with kim jongun. Now youre going to say okay weve used that Engagement Negotiation Card and now we have no recourse except to take Kinetic Action on north korea. You said you knew this was going to happen in the sense that trump was going to want to meet with kim jongun. Why . Because no one else has done it. Kim jongun has not met with a single other leader of the world since hes become, since hes taken power, and no american president has ever met with the north korean leader, only former secretary of state. So its the first. Its incredible television, clearly trump wants to make this happen. But that doesnt mean its going to happen, and there are a lot of things, simply the fact of saying theres going to be a summit has made trumps presidency more about north korea than i think any of us want. The fact is, this has been the most intractable geopolitical problem for several administrations. Now theyve all decided to kick it down the road even though we know its getting worse and they knew it was getting worse because they worried that opening up that can of worms had the potential to kill an awful lot of people, and the fact that trump is now making his presidency more about that is, of course, a greater danger for all of us. But youre saying just from a pure tv point of view, this is irresistible to the former host of the apprentice. Ill Say Something else, its irresistible i think at some
point putin will make an offer to host this thing because its irresistible to have the media covering it in this sort of way. They both like that kind of thing. Its going to happen. It doesnt mean that the meeting is going to occur, doesnt mean the meeting is going to be any good. This is all very good for north korea. North korea is now what, 95 of the way to a robust nuclear arsenal, with delivery systems, right . Yes. Now is the time for them to talk. Absolutely. North korea is going to spin this as going into this Summit Meeting from a position of strength. Theyre going to say its because of our nuclear strength. They are 95 done with their nuclear program. They have one more technical hurdle that they have to cross, which is to show successful reentry capability but South Korea And Japan are already under north Korean Nuclear threat, they have between 20 to 06 nuclear warheads. Theyve shown Icbm Capability that can reach all of the United States and they are very close, were coming in from a position
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be less capacity for major surprises, comparable to the stadium. When you say that, because You Dont Think Trump should go to pyongyang. I dont think he should go to pyongyang and i dont think kim should come here. Id prefer the dmz, peace house, because i think it gives excellent access to the rok government. You can have daily conversations after the negotiations, and japan could send a delegation and its great for coordination, but still, even there, theres less capacity for major surprises, but even at the trivial level of protocol, what if on the one hand kim gives President Trump a great big bear hug, how do you respond to that awkward moment . What a bad scenario, he gives him a diatribe about all the u. S. Sins going back to lgss about u. S. Behavior in the korean war. So the president has to be prepared for that. I think the important point is, one, do the right thing. Youre here on an historic first meeting of leaders, shake friends, you dont have to be
best friends. Second, expect surprises and try to think of how you deal with them. Third, dont be provoked. The worst outcome they trade insults and it becomes a race to the bottom. Fourth, stick with your plan. Dont try to solve anything. That can be dangerous. Remember reagan at rakia vick with gorbachev, one of the scariest in my government service. Understand some words dont mean the same with each, denuclearization, youre not here to work out the details to come up with common definitions. Try to get a plan for a negotiating process. Sue mi terry its possible this wont happen. Trumps own National Security council seems to be walking back the possibility, by putting on conditions were only going to do the summit if theres denuclearization. Im getting already a sense nsc is trying to walk back this because before may, it is right around the corner. They understand the danger and
the risk thats going to be involved with premature engaging with kim jongun right now. When we are prepared, thats fine but its a little bit too premature. North korea already said denuclearization is not on the table. What actions do they need to take . Theyre not going to take any more actions. If mr. Trump really wants to see him, he will. In terms of the venue, dmz is fine. Definite in ily mr. Trump shoul go to north korea because the north koreans will spin this into legitimacy, the u. S. President coming to north korea to cowtow to their leader. Do the dmz or a neutral country like switzerland or singapore. Stanley, a quick thought on china. Is china happy with the situation in they after all wanted a defusion of tension. This is sort of what the chinese want. I think theyre happy but conflicted. Of course anything that defuses
the situation makes military action less likely, is very positive for them, if it can lead to a negotiating process, even better. At the same time, theyve got to be very concerned about the possibilities of a trade war, not just the steps taken but the steps that might be taken and that could influence their willingness to be helpful and third, thats probably a bit of resentment that north korea met with the u. S. President before meeting with the chinese president. Thats absolutely extraordinary. And the trade war part, whats extraordinary is the south koreans are under the gun with trumps tariffs even at the time were trying to build a close alliance with them. Thats right, the fact that this invitation was formally accepted by trump, at the same time trump is saying im going to put tariffs on steel and alum num against all these countries around the world and south korea happens to be quite an important exporter to the United States, but he backed away from that significantly, not just on
mexico and kaen canada but sayi anyone can have exemptions and the south koreans said thank you so much, trump, youre brilliant for organizing this meeting with kim jongun but can we have an exemption. The u. S. Government said well work on that, well take care of the south koreans. One last thought, italian elections, ian bremer, this seems to be pretty big news. I think this is the most significant antiestablishment vote in a Major Industrial democracy in decades. Over 50 of the italians said theyre either for the fivestar movement, euro skeptic, the Largest Party now, or the Northern League strongly antiimmigration. The Establishment Parties are devastated. Its not going to matter that much nearterm, because the european economies are still doing well, but the fact that anyone that hoped that macron was sort of like turning the page and now were proglobalization, no. The antiestablishment sensibilities across all of
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