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CNNW Fareed Zakaria GPS August 26, 2018

It was his decision as a pow to allow others to be released before him because he didnt want to have special treatment, whether it was the way he was in the Senate Standing up for immigrants and health care, whether it was the way the resiliency after the president ial race where he could have gone home and given up but instead went back to the senate and did his work, mentored young senators like myself, taught us how to act on the world stage. Always making sure he had women in the front and his mom to cindy and to his daughter meghan. And that was a big part of him and those are lessons he passed on to so many people in politics and in that way his legal egacy live on. The way hes being honored this morning last night, the way he will be honored in the coming weeks is almost the same way and to the same level as a president would be honored and yet he was a mere senator. What is it about him that is causing this pouring forth of tributes from people in the political world from democrats such as yourself from former as verse sarryes such as obama and bush. Why all this recognition for him . He had a joy about politics and a love for his country that was unmatched. And while he never made it to the presidency, in the senate, he was the leader that would see a hot spot in the world and say we need to go there and stand up for that democracy. I remember just about a year and a half ago new years eve spending that time, something kelly has done as well with Lindsey Graham and with john mccain on the front lawn with president poroshenko he knew it was a moment in time and wanted to show russia america stood with independent democracy like ukraine. He did that, he went every play, every place that no one else would go, to stand up for america and in that way, he was a leader like no other but i think part of the moment that people dont always realize about him just this humor he had, this joy for his work and thats anyone that worked with him, experienced that. So yes, its about patriotism but its also about personal friendship. We also remember john mccain as a devoted dad, every time i saw him he started talking about meghan, jack, jimmy, bridget, doug, andy, cindy, his children, so proud of them. Meghan mccain wrote this in a statement after her father passed. I was with my father at his end as he was with me at my beginning and in the 33 years we shared together he raised me, taught me corrected me and comforted me and encouraged me in all things. I love him and he loved me. All i am is thanks to him. You can tell how much he meant to her. Tell us about john mccain the dad. Well, if you ever get that honor of being at their ranch and income in her house, you see everywhere scrap books of their family. I think people kind of because he was such a maverick, people thought of him on his own and see cindy sometimes but he loved his family. I dont think its a surprise that he spent those last months of his life in sedona that ranch he loved because his family was also there. His neighbors the olivers that he loved that knew for so long, he had this whole family around him. And what was interesting about it, he took that same concept of honor to his family and really brought that to the senate. So when you traveled with him, yeah, you would have fancy dinners with ambassadors and heads of state but he would also always make sure that the group, including the staff would be together almost every night. So we could spend time together and talk about what happened. Even though he spent his life traveling all over the world he always believed that there was no place like home. For him, that was his ranch in arizona. And that was not only because of the beauty around him, the oasis but also because that is the oasis he spent time with his family. Thank you so much in spending your time with us this morning and reflecting on the loss of why are friend. Our deepest condolences to you. Thank you, jake. I want to go to kelly ai dont think yotte. Many know him the statesman, public figure but he described you as his friend when he left the senate and in many ways you stepped into Joe Liebermans shoes and three amight os, whats he like to have as a friend . An incredible friend. For me, not only was a dear friend but a mentor and took me under his wing and Armed Services committee and first of all hang out with john mccain, he has the most wonderful sense of humor. Always cracking jokes. Obviously hes tough as nails. Incredibly bright, so strong and courageous but to his friends, we loved his sense of humor, his optimism. He was always getting ready for the next fight because he was fighting for people who couldnt fight for themselves and traveling around the world with him, he always stood any time there was a member of our military serving somewhere, he would go visit anyone who was oo pressed around the world as you know, just a champion for human rights and for people around the world. I want to play a clip for you, its from 2016 after you lost why are reelection bid for the senate. There are many qualities that are important to being a good senator but none in my opinion is more important than Standing Firm for what you believe. That is what senator ayotte has done. I have cherished the friendship and partnership of senator kelly ayotte, the kindness and courtesy she extended to her colleagues has made this institution a better place. What goes through your mind when you hear those words today . What goes through my mind is i was at the ranch with john and cindy in the spring. And you know, he was mentoring me then. We had a long talk sitting overlooking the beautiful river there in sedon a and john said to me you know kelly, whatever you do, whatever you go on to do, do the right thing, and thats what goes through my mind. Just, you know, thats how he lived his life. And what also goes through my mind is the legacy that john has in terms of inspiring future generations of leaders and many who serve in the senate in terms of americas role in the world and standing up to do the right thing. One of the things that he did that he felt was the right thing was standing up to President Trump when President Trump crosses lines in his view having to do with u. S. Alliances, having to do with basic decency. Thats something that you know a little bit about. Many people think if you had embraced President Trump more you would have won in 2016 in new hampshire. Was that something that you and he discussed ever, the difficulty of standing up to somebody who is the president or the nominee for the party in your case . Well, with john he stood up always for what he believed in and whoever was in the Corner Office he would disagree with them when he thought that they werent acting in the best interest of america. The thing i think about today is about john and i think about i hope that his passing is a calling for more decency, integrity and honor in our politics because thats what john stood for and thats really what his legacy is. Decency, integrity and honor, that would be nice. Senator ayotte, thank you so much for coming today and sharing your remembrances of your friend. Our deepest condolences to you. Thank you very much, jake. One of senator mccains final acts as a Public Servant was to call on President Trump to stand up to Vladimir Putin in helsinki. Coming up next, one of the Top Democrats in the house investigating russian meddling, congressman adam schiff, will share his memories of the senator and talk about the last week we just had. Week we just had. Stay with us. Does your Business Internet provider promise a lot . Lets see who delivers more. Comcast business gives you gigspeed in more places. The others dont. We offer up to 6 hours of 4g Wireless Network backup. Everyone else, no way. We let calls from any of your devices come from your business number. Them, not so much. We let you keep an eye on your business from anywhere. The others . Nope for a limited time, when you get fast, reliable internet, you can add voice for just 24. 95 more per month. Call or go online today. Call or go on line today. While many republicans remain silent on President Trumps summit with Vladimir Putin one of the most powerful statements came from a dying senator john mccain who slammed President Trumps inability to stand up to putin as a tragic mistake. Joining me now is congressman adam schiff of california. Congressman, i know you traveled a great deal with senator mccain. I know you knew him. And also at one point last year you said that you were disappointed because you thought there would be more john mccains in congress. What did you mean by that and did you ever discuss that with him . Well, he was such a great example of strength and courage and dedication to our democracy that i would have thought any number of House Republicans in particular would have followed his example. And i raised this with him once, we were appearing jointly on a panel and before we went on i remarked to him how much i admired him and how disappointed i was that there didnt seem to be a single republican in the house who felt they had a constituency to be the john mccain of the house. And he looked at me and he said, well, if there isnt, they will be calling you chairman. And it was a classic kind of blunt john mccain comment and one of the reasons why i think he won over people on both sides of the aisle with his whit, with his candor, but also with his sense of humor. I have to tell you that was one thing i didnt really appreciate about senator mccain until i traveled with him is just how funny he is. He used to introduce by saying this is adam schiff, he is a good guy who gets things like about zero percent of the time. Even Lindsey Graham who he loved more than anyone else in the congress used to introduce by saying this is Lindsey Graham, everyone knows lindsey, few people like him. That was the kind of way john would introduce you and, you know, it was just an honor to be in his presence and to watch the kind of respect World Leaders had for him, to watch the way he struck up such an easy relationship demeanor with others. It was a treat to be around him. I know that if he were here he would be telling me dont only talk about me with adam schiff a lot happened in the news this week and you need to talk about it. He believed intensely in the oversight responsibilities of the congress when it came to the executive branch, even if many of his republican colleagues have forgotten about that obligation. So let me ask you in that vein, Michael Cohen said this week under oath that President Trump when he was a candidate directed him to violate federal election laws. Whats your take on that . Well, this is pretty serious business. I mean, this is the first witness who under oath has basically said during a guilty plea that he was part of a criminal conspiracy with the president of the united states. These were no inconsequential bookkeeping Campaign Finance errors. It wasnt like they inadvertently made a contribution slightly in excess of the limit. This was a planned out solicitation essentially of a corporate contribution or a payment well in excess, hundreds of thousands of dollars of the limits, and in an area that could very well have been decisive in the election, that is to keep from the Public Information that allegations that the president had an affair with a porn star, for example, to keep that from the public weeks before the election. That could have been determinative in such a close race. So its serious business. I think were going to have to look at that evidence in its totality as we learn more and we get a report ultimately from bob mueller about what the consequences of all that are. So you have argued in the New York Times opinion piece in may that impeachment of President Trump will be more difficult politically if it seems like democrats were hoping to impeach President Trump all along. It seems pretty clear that a lot of democrats believe that there are now grounds for impeachment based on this Michael Cohen plea agreement in which he admits to committing felonies and two of them he says he did in coordination with and at the direction of then candidate trump, but it also seems as though democrats dont want to talk about impeachment because it might hurt your ability to win back the house in november. Well, its not just, i think, that democrats dont want to talk about impeachment. I think as a matter of our constitutional responsibility we have to look candidly at what is the evidence and what does that mean and what does that say in terms of weather weve reached the point of high crimes and misdemeanors, but i dont think we should be talking about it and embracing before we have seen the full body of evidence. As a former prosecutor i like to know all the facts before i make a judgment and the reality is impeachment is a political standard. Impeachment is at any given time what half of the house and twothirds of the senate say it is. And given the dearth of people in the gop who are willing to say anything about this president s conduct, i think youre going to need a really powerful case to entertain that kind of a sanction. Jake, look what happened after the president started attacking his own attorney general for not getting rid of bob mueller and persecuting his political rivals. You had two prominent gop senators say, well, if he wants to get rid of the ag we will help him get a new one but lets wait until after the midterms. That is not something you would have ever heard john mccain say. I was proud to see ben sasse take issue with that. That was very john mccainlike. We need people like john mccain now more than ever. I want to ask you about your party when it comes to accusations of hacking. Senator bill nelson, democrat of florida, has been under scrutiny for his claims russians hacked the florida electoral systems. There is no evidence of that that we have seen. The dnc this week said that it had been hacked when it was really just a test by a state organization. Are some democrats being too careless in public about accusations of hacking, Sensitive National Security Matters . Well, look, i think that everyone is really on razors edge right now wondering is the other shoe going to fall in terms of russian intervention in the midterms. 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Theres a moment you recently wrote about in the daily beast when he turned to you, he bent over and you realized he needed help to comb his hair. Tell us about that. Thanks, jake. First of all, my hats off to senator mccain and the mccain family. There were so many powerful moments it was, you know, such an honor to spend any time around senator mccain, but one of the first times i was out with him was when his campaign had kind of collapsed and there were a few of us that stuck around as volunteers and i think it was up in new hampshire. I was doing every role, i was press

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