Actual hostility, real violence . I will talk to admiral william mccraven, the machine most famous for commanding the team that got osama bin laden. And whom do americans want for their next president . Would they vote for a catholic, a jew, an atheist, a woman, a gay candidate . I will tell you the fascinating results of the poll. But first, heres my take. Many of us have been waiting for another moment in which the challenge from china spurs america to get its act together. We may now be witnessing such a watershed but in beijing. The Trump Administrations decision to blacklist huawei, the worlds 2nd Largest TechnologyCompany Might be chinas sputnik moment. Huawei will likely lose key hardware it relies on. This move can only be interpreted as an attempt by the Trump Administration to kill the company, already the worlds second largest maker of smartphones. The chinese will see this as a turning point. If washington can cut china off from American Technology at will, china will be determined to build its own Technological Infrastructure top to bottom. We might be moving toward a bipolar world in Digital Technology with two walled off ecosystems, american and chinese. This would erode the deep levels of investments and supply chains that characterize todays global economy. Before traveling down this road, the United States should ensure that it has the smartest strategy in place to deal with the real challenge from china. First, the Trump Administration should make clear the broad principles it is defending in punishing huawei. It has so far been reluctant to outline the evidence, perhaps because it is classified. But it must help the world understand that it is not simply blocking a successful foreign competitor. It is acting to preserve the security of networks and the privilege si privacy of individuals. Second, the United States should have built an International Coalition to beijing. I have supported trumps tough stance on china, but im bewildered where why they are going alone. Chinas technology will be cheaper because of its lower labor costs, looser regulations, and government assistance. Huawei is already dominant in the developing world. Many Companies Might opt for cheaper technology. In their view, whatever technology they use comes with the risk that a government, china or other will snoop on them. Fourth, is there a smarter way to take on china. A Senior Executive i spoke to suggested a better response would be for america to become the worlds leader in encryption. He suggested a place like m. I. T. Build a system that is encrypted and shields data from wah wah. Finally, isnt the real answer to chinas extraordinary gains in technology to make the u. S. Policy changes and investments that allow america to compete with beijing . Its difficult to imagine that washington will be available to shut down the economic rise in innovations of a dynamic country of 1. 4 billion people that already boasts many of the globes Top Technology companies. Instead, we need our own sputnik moment, focusing the country to outcompete china. Understand this Technology Strategy we are embarking on is far more consequential than trade talks. On trade, the Trump Administration has gentlemen lit mat complaints about chinese behavior. It is playing hard ball. But the end goal is to create more economic independence between the two countries. If there is a deal, china will buy more american goods, invest more in america, and provide more Market Access to american companies. A Technology War would take us in a very different direction. It would lead not to a cold war but to a cold peace with a divided and less prosperous world. For more, go to cnn. Com fareed and read my Washington Post column this week, and lets get started. With the president in japan, i thought it was a perfect time to talk about americas relations in asia. Despite relatively good relations with japan, there is a trade war of sorts going on between the United States and china. And the last nuclear trumpkim summit ended abruptly. What is the overall state of play in the middle east . Joining me now is evan modaris. Anna fifield is the author of a book called the great successor. And a smart analyst on all things asian. Let me start with you, anna, there in beijing. What is the chinese reaction to this flurry of moves that the Trump Administration has made both on trade and now on technology as well . The chinese response has been aggressive in response of this. The statebacked newspapers have all been full of calls for the Chinese People to unite against the bullying of the United States. And the chinese propaganda units have taken a novel approach to this as well. Just this week weve seen a lot of the programming on the main movie channel here being scrapped. And instead, the air waves have been full of old movies about the korean war, sending a message reminding people of a time when china was able to fend off america and force it into a draw, if not a total defeat. Theres even been a pop song that has gone viral here this week called very catchly trade war which includes a line not afraid of the outrageous challenge. So, the message that the government here is sending to the people and to the outside world is that they are settling in for the long haul here. Evan, theres a specific thing that president xi did which i was struck by. He visited a Rare Earth Materials plant. Rare earth is a commodity essential in the digital age and cell phones particularly. And chinese produces the vast majority of it. Was that a signal that, you know, if you start blacklisting our Companies Like huawei we can cut you off from supply chains as well . That instance, i think it was a soft signal on the part of xi jinping. I dont think the chinese have decided whether or not to escalate. Theyre trying to determine what trumps actions are after the huawei actions. They want to let the u. S. Know that if the u. S. Continues to get tougher and is not willing to negotiate reasonably on the conditions the chinese laid out, theyre prepared to escalate. When you look at this from your vantage point, what does it look like . Are we in a cold war, cold peace, where countries feel like they need to line up with chinese or america . Remember that were dealing with a set of countries that actually has a memory of the colonial experience and the cold war experience and they dont want to repeat that history. They dont want to choose sides. Theres no question that japan, of course, is americas stall wart ally in asia. If you look at Southeast Asian country, they want to be sides with all sides. They want to multialign. 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Anna, when you look at it from beijing, does beijing have enough influence with north korea to throw a Monkey Wrench in this to get them to be provocative . If u. S. China relations get bad, could they turn up the pressure using north korea, or is that relationship not as good as it perhaps once was historically . Well, the attitude here is very much that if the u. S. Is not making a big deal about these shortrange missile launches, then china is not going to either. So, there has been relatively little consternation here. I think its viewed as a classic north korean attentionseeking gambit. I think its a way to get eyes back on the peninsula. I dont think kim jongun is ever going to give up his nuclear weapons. But i think he has this very kind of short window of time here to make progress on this. He knows that President Trump is up for reelection next year, that moon jae in worldwide oill office in 2022. He wants a deal because he desperately needs sanctions relief if he is going to tend to his main priority which is growing the economy and boosting his right to claim the leadership of north korea. So, parag, tell us with all of this, what do things look like Going Forward . The next few months in asia, you say everyone is trying to find a way to play both sides. Are we moving forward more tension, less tension . I would like to think less tension. If you look at just the north korea situation, kim has met with president moon. Hes met with xi jinping. Hes met with vladimir putin. Even shinzo abe may attend a summit as well. Clearly asians are trying to find a way to incrementally and peacefully absorb north korea. Over the last 30 years we have been worried and rightly so about escalation and conflict and world war iii breaking out in asia whether its taiwan, chinajapan dispute, but in every instance asians have demonstrated maturity to walk back from the brink, focus on their geoeconomic complementaries. I dont see any reason why that pattern wont continue even though we have to concede asia is a growing arms bazaar. No one really wants to see their Economic Growth will derailed or other kind of significant instability that would require that the u. S. Come in and reimpose itself as a hegemon in the region. Evan, do you think that the Trump Administration will reach a deal with china . I was struck by the fact that President Trump tweeted about huawei saying theyre a very bad company, but by the way, if theres a trade deal with china, maybe we can forgive them which suggests that what trump is doing everything is maximum pressure and then hope for a deal. I think its 50 50 right now. I think trumps not entirely sure exactly what his negotiating position is. Hes surrounded by a group of economic nationalists that im not sure really want a deal. And at a minimum, they want supply chains in the u. S. Economy to be less dependent on the chinese economy. So, sort of a distancing if not an entire decoupling. The key is going to be will trump go to the g20 in osaka japan at the end of june and will he meet xi jinping. Its unclear the Trump Administration is not going to that meeting. If trump and xi dont meet, then the prospects of a deal go way down. Fascinating conversation. Thank you all. Next on gps, will the war of words between the United States and iran turn into real fighting. Ill talk with william mccraven. Applebees new loaded fajitas. Now thats eatin good in the neighborhood. Applebees new loaded fajitas. Living well do you often wake up with chest congestion . Or suffer excess mucus . Try mucinex 12 hour. 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On the night of april 30th, 2011 president barack obamaeneded a phone call by wishing his troops god speed. He went to the Correspondents Dinner where he poked fun at donald trump. Halfway around the world, mccraven prepped for a mission of monumental importance. He commanded Seal Team Six where they killed osama bin laden. Mccraven was on one of the screens the white house was watching on the opposite side of this photograph. Observers say despite the incredible tension, mccravens voice never changed inflection. Youll see why in a moment. Mccraven has written about that episode and many others from his life and careers, sea stories, my life in special operations. Not only did you kill osama bin laden, but you captured Saddam Hussein and rescued from the pirates. I was in charge of those, but it was the great soldiers and sailors who did the hard work. Were going to get to that. First ive got to ask you as someone who watched the persian gulf so carefully, people are wondering does it strike you as likely that the iranians would try to attack the United States vessels . You spent a long time watching them. What is your sense . Yeah, i dont think they would, fareed. Through the straits of hormuz a number of times. The u. S. Navy has been dealing with the iranians decades. They try to penetrate close to the u. S. Ships. The navy knows how to deal with iranians. I think it would be a terrible miscalculation on the part of the iranians if they decided to take a strike on the part of the u. S. Fleet. It would not go well for them. I dont think theyre that stupid. They are thoughtful enough to realize that would be a bad mistake. I heard the secretary of defense pat shanahan talk about you want to be careful about the miscalculations, and i think this is miscalculations on both sides. If something were to happen, if there were to be a military confrontation with iran, youve watched the iranians enough to know they have a lot of proxies and parts. Things could get quite messy. They could. You have the forces that could shape the battlefield in certain ways. You do have to worry about that. But again i think if you have a strike from hezbollah, we will take that as a strike from iran. Im