Oldest son, donald trump jr. And aga dismisseded russia story as a hoax made up by the democrats. Which, of course, factually is not accurate. Russias interference in the u. S. Election is established fact, at least as far as President Trumps own Intelligence Community testified before congress and the possible collusion by his Campaign Team is a matter being investigated by the fbi. This is trumps second trip to europe in less than a week, helping the french celebrate bastille day, tomorrow, and mark the 100th anniversary of the u. S. Entry in world world 1, despite suggestions around the president and indeed the president himself he might have preferred macrons challenger in the election, marine le pen. And steve bannon made a friendly overture about populist nationalism. And earlier trump and the first lady toured the military complex containing the tomb of napoleon and tonight will dine as a michelin starred restaurant in the eiffel tower. He met with his host last night, macron who said he was also a part of election interference. And a whiteknuckle hand shaib macron later called a moment of truth. Cnn senior White House Correspondent, jeff zeleny and manu raju on capitol hill. And bonjour. If one wanted to change the subject from russia investigations and what seems to have been a legislative paralysis as well as white house dysfunction reportedly, one could do worse than a splashy think to paris, i suppose . Reporter no question about that, jake. When the president accepted this invitation, this was long before anyone knew about those emails. This was something in the works, but certainly offers a change of scenery. No question. And not sure it changes the subject. The reason is, russia, its meddling in elections, its aggression in the region is something that transcends every country, indeed when a president , Emmanuel Macron said this morning he believes the russians meddled in his election as well. That is snag essentially makes this a local issue. When the president faces questions this hour from two french reporters and two u. S. Reporters he is all but certain to be asked about this, but particularly the donald trump jr. Situation. Weve not yet heard of president address that on camera in any substantive way. Look for him to certainly be asked that. Well see if he answers those questions or not. Beyond that, the imagery, so interesting here, going from that handshake in brussels end of may to right now. Weve seen, you know, a couple friendly pats on the back. It is still a monoimmano a man faceoff between the two leaders. Could not be more difference in policy and their age, other things, but they do have similar populist strains and the fact theyre both new to government but the get the sense Emmanuel Macron wants to bring President Trump in on his turf, on his stage here, and tomorrow when the bastille day parade is taking place, when President Trump is watching for a couple hour, the French Military proceed as well as some smalle. Talking about syria and issues that unite and align the interests of the u. S. And france, but, of course, so many other ones differ. The biggest of which is the paris climate accord. We dont know if that will come up at all, but President Trump has taken so many jabs at paris. Sort of a running commentary in the 2016 campaign and beyond saying paris is not what it yusd to bei stand with the voters of pittsburgh not paris, when, jake, President Trump is now in paris and happy to be here given what its going on in washington. Yes. Of course. In a recent Pew Global Attitudes poll only 14 of the french people expressed trump would do the right thing in international affairs. Not that he necessarily cares. Manu raju, let me ask you. The russia investigation is continuing its pace. Whats the latest on capitol hill . Rear expecting a letter sent out by the Senate Judiciary committee as early as today asking for donald trump jr. To testify before the panel as soon as next week. The Top Republican on the committee, the chairman, Chuck Grassley, and the top democrat on the committee, dianne feinstein, both told me today they want dronald trump jr. To testify before the plan aanel at ruling out subpoenas. Reporter what do you want to ask him or learn about . Why the committee wants to question him . Well, very much because our oversight of the justice department, and i think its just its raised a lot of questions, but the real way that i feel comfortable inviting him is ever since ive ever since President Trump was elected, it seems like every conversation that has come from somebody in the family where theres been some sort of issue, theyve seemed always to be very, very open, and i just think that he would welcome the opportunity to say whatever he wants to say. Now i reporter would you get a subpoena . Lets wait and see what he does for, from our letter. Now, jake, why this is significant, its the first time a republican chairman of a committee has formally invited donald trump jr. To come testify. At least publicly acknowledging that. Ive asked senator richard burr, chairs the Senate Intelligence committee running its own inv t investigation and he would not comment about donald trump jr. And mike conway wouldnt comment but Chuck Grassley asserts himself in this issue and also for Paul Manafort to come before their panel. The former campaign chairman, also at that meeting that donald trump jr. Was at with that russian lawyer. Theres an interest in getting him before their panel next week, but, jake, uncertain if thats going to happen quite yet, because grassley is trying to make sure it does not conflict with bob muellers investigation, having those conversations right mnow. Clearly, bringing bigname witnesses before and could be in a public setting if they agree to testify, jake. One should not underor understate, lets say, how big a deal this is for the republican chairman of the Judiciary Committee to be talking about calling witnesses before his committee. Thank you both so much. The panel with us, cnn chief Political Correspondent dana bash and Gloria Borger and n niamalika henderson and michael shear from the New York Times. Start way quote from President Trump talks to reuters telling reuters, the reporter, steve holland, he does not fault his son don junior for taking that meeting promised incriminating information on Hillary Clinton. President trump saying, i think many people would have held that meeting. You have to understand when that took place this was before russia fever. There was no russia fever back then. That was the beginning of the campaign more or less. No russia fever. It is factually true. I suppose thats true, although im not sure what that proves exactly, but this is not an everyday thing. We cover campaigns all the time. Ive never heard of anything like this. Completely right and besides the point. Everything he said there. And the person who undermined that argument was his own fbi director nominee, chris ray, who said yesterday, under oath that it is not okay, and that if anybody got this kind of request, that they work on a campaign, in e should know from here on out, as they should have in trump tower, you got to call the fbi. Its not okay. Not talking about run of the mill opposition research. Were talking about a foreign government, a foreign adversary, reaching out wanting to give damaging information. That is by definition meddling in elections. An attempt to. Attempt to, thank you. And agreeing to it, or at least being open to it is absolutely not okay. Look, donald trump jr. Clearly was not very new to politics. Didnt, you know, understand that this was not okay. The fact that they didnt have the wherewithal to contact a lawyer to say was this weird . Not weird . Thats going to be probably one of the main things hell be asked about at the hearing, whether its in public or private with Chuck Grassley. Bottom line, the president is understandably trying to defend his son because he felt his son was doing this only to help him, but its not okay. Gloria borger, donald trump jr. In march said this to the New York Times when they was asked ifede ever met with any officials from the russian government. Did i meet with people that are russian . Im sure i did, but not that were set up. None i can think of at the moment and secertainly none i w representing the campaign in in way, shape or form. Not true . No. False . False. Not true. He also told you in an interview in july, i believe, that this is all ridiculous, and this is all made up by the 2016, yes. 2016, that this is made up by the democrats. Now we know that that is demonstrably untrue, and while this may have been before russian fever, as the president pointed out, it isnt before laws were invented in this country to make sure that we dont have undo influence from foreign nations in our election system, and another thing i want to point out here is that donald trump jr. Is going to have to explain to this committee why in his email exchange he wasnt shocked, outraged, surprised . Why he was so casual about his response to his friend Rob Goldstein in this. I think it is it leads you to believe there may have been other conversations. There clearly, as we know, was a preexisting relationship. Did they talk on the phone . Thats what the committee will try and flush out here. And niamalika, let me ask you. Kellyanne conway went on fox last night to knock down allegations of collusion. Ill ask you how effective you this this is. Pulled a gallagher, a carrot top, and did it with with props. Roll that tape. I just want to review, in case you run out of time. This is how i see it so far. This is to help all the people at hole. Whats the conclusion . Collusion . No. We dont have that yet. I see illusion and delusion. So just so were clear, everyone, forwards, collusion, no . Illusion, delusion, yes. Fun with words. Saw sesame word of the day perhaps, shawn. I dont know what to say. Shoutout to grover. Probably the best thing about that. Other than that, you know, i think its clearly a work in progress. Them trying to figure out how to respond to this. Its essentially from the top down. Donald trump is insisting this is a democratic hoax. Theres no their there. Thats all theyre left with and resorts to props. I dont think its very effective. I think theyve got to figure out how to respond to this. What is the messaging . But even, i think, aside from the messages, the matter of an investigation a legal investigation into what happened all of these many months. Was there collusion between the Trump Campaign and russia . They can go on fox and be cute, have sort of illusion and collusion, and props all they want. Its not really going to help them in terms of the legal case and the legal jeopardy they might be in. Let me take a break here and go to france to cnn White House Correspondent sara murray joining me now from elysees palace in paris. Sara, a sense of whats going on in the room and how the trump team is handling everything. Reporter were waiting for President Trump and french president Emmanuel Macron to wrap up their bilateral meeting nbc that right now. Where we expect them to deal with some of the media, the more substantial issues on this agenda. What to do in syria as well as counterterrorism efforts and after that joining us here in this room to take questions from the american and french press. Two questions from the american press. Two questions from the french press. Originally slated to be outdoors but the weather isnt cooperating in paris and weve moved into this palatial room, awaiting them. Obviously, this is the first time well be seeing President Trump in front of the cameras, in front of a broader press corps and hes likely to face questions about this meeting with donald trump jr. And this russian lawyer that occurred last summer. He has made some comments about the fact he does not blame his son for taking this meeting and other interviews, but interesting to do see if hes pressed more about credibility, why people should take his word, no collusion or take his word no other meetings when, in fact, we saw from a number of people in the Trump Administration saying no meetings whatsoever and jake, youve known, weve seen a drip, drip, drip of revelations that prove otherwise. Drip, drip, drip, a term used by gowdy, a republican congressman from south carolina, a strong conservative, not known for criticizing the Trump Administration. Thank you so much. Michael, let me go to you, because don trump jr. Was not the on person in the meeting. Paul manafort, campaign chair, and Jared Kushner, who currently is a Senior Adviser to President Trump were in that meeting. House leader nancy pelosi called for Jared Kushners security clearance to be revoked. Heres how the white house is responding to critics who say Jared Kushners security clearance should are revoked. Part of that email chain, knew what that meeting was about, knew what was promised, what do you say to democrats who say that Jared Kushners security clearance should be revoked . Once again, we dont discuss security clearances, but i think democrats are trying to play political games, and i think its ridiculous. Is there any concern of a top adviser of the president . Did nothing wrong . No. Is it possible at all that he could lose his security clearance, or could be any repercussion for attends this meeting . When you read the email was very clear, billed at russian government, incriminating information on hillary. Heres a russian government lawyer. Lets have a meeting . I dont know what the specific procedures are for revoking somebodys security clearance. My sense is that these things dont happen likely and the great likelihood is he will keep his. I do think, though, that the presence of those two folks, Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort in that meeting raises the stakes a lot higher than it would otherwise be for this white house. Because because if it was just don junior, i say that in quotes. The son of the current president , but not in the white house currently. He didnt have a formalized role in the campaign. With the other two gentlemen, you have both of those things. One of the most Senior Advisers in the white house and the fellow who ran the campaign for a time. That raises the stakes connecting the dots directly to the president and the president s campaign and i think thats what raises those stakes legally and politically on this. The only reason we know the emails exist is because Jared Kushners attorneys were going through his documents, his emails, to prepare for kushner to go up to the hill. He was the only guy that the investigators on capitol hill wanted to talk to, not don junior, before they saw the ema email. Lawyers saw the email, showed it to jared, and, you know, the rest is still were trying to sort of suss out exactly how it happened. Bottom line, even before this, Jared Kushner was already being looked at for this meeting and other meetings that he had, and maybe even things we dont know about yet. We only know what is in public. And the reason the security clearance is especially relevant, not just because of judgment or whatever it has to do with the fact the reason we know about this is because Jared Kushner was updating his security clearance, which is supposed to provide information about how many meetings youve had with people from other countries. Right. And he had omitted this meeting and i believe two others. Right. From a security clearance. Well, he didnt put any in there. All of them. In his first, admitted to all of them. Updated the next day to say, we will provide you the details of these meetings over the winter and the spring. They updated it with more than 100 contacts, and then just recently on june 21, they updated it to include the meeting with the russian lawyer, and, by the way, i believe i was told that he still has only an interim clearance. He does not have full clearance. People get interim clearances in the white house when theyre not done with their security interviews and he had a couple of interviews at the end of june. I believe that the interim, temporary, its only at secret level, basically just access to diplomatic cables. You dont really get intelligence, signal, allied, et cetera. Stick around. Up next, President Trump about to hold his first News Conference since the scantaled over his son donald juniors meeting with a russian lawyer came to light. What might he say about that . Can he get the focus back on his trip to france and bilateral relationsry Emmanuel Macron . Plus the health care legislation. We go to capitol hill next. Stay with us. Theres nothing more important than your health. So if youre on medicare or will be soon, you may want more than parts a and b heres why. Medicare only covers about 80 of your part b medical expenses. The rest is up to you. 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