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CNNW Inside Politics June 19, 2018

Leadership in this country, but where the hell is the leadership in honduras, guatemala and el salvador. Where are those president s . We begin today right there, a big bipartisan revolt against the Trump White House just as the president prepares to make a rare visit to capitol hill. Lawmakers across the spectrum cant escape the words and the images of children separated from their parents at the nations southern border. The government tells us that since midapril, more than 2,000 children have been separated from their parents or guardians. It is part of what the white house calls its new zero tolerance policy. And the president s morning tweets are again defiant, stoking a fight most of his party doesnt want. The president keeps blaming the democrats, but this is his policy. Mr. President , you should fix it. But if you dont want to change this cruel policy, at least admit that it is your decision. Blaming others falsely is cheap, easy and dishonest. A cheap way out. The president also says if lawmakers want to change the policy, they need to strike a big deal with him on a big immigration package. That is why the president heads off to capitol hill later today, to talk immigration policy with House Republicans. But the odds have a big deal for longer than long. And some republicans are warning the white house if it doesnt stop separating families, they will pass a narrow law and f forbid the practice. I think congress can only change the underlying problem, but they can pick up the phone and change the policy. Its not all the democrats fault. This is a problem a long time in 2014 we had this same problem. The problem is Neither Party has been able to come together to fix it. Ive tried a bunch. Now its President Trumps chance. Hes president , not obama. I think there is a deal to be had. Cnns Phil Mattingly live on capitol hill. Phil, a very different tone and tenor for this meeting we thought would be about a big immigration package that now seems to be about the anger of separating families. Reporter theres no question about it, john. Uneasy is probably the way to describe lawmakers right now. When the president comes to the capitol, he will be visiting basically a place that has become totally enveloped by this issue, by this crisis, by lawmakers on both sides trying to figure out a way out of it. The most interesting element right now thats going on is the fact there is no clear path forward. When you talk to lawmakers, they say both republican and democrat, the president can stop this on their own. They have been given no sign by the white house publicly or privately or in staff briefings or messages theyve received that the white house is going to change direction any time soon. Where does that leave things . As you know, the president is going to talk about a broad immigration mostly related to daca effort thats occurring on the house floor later this week. The family separation issue has now been combined with that. This is a confluence of two baf basically different issues that have crashed into one another, are very emotional and at this point has no bipartisan support. Ted cruz has a bill. Koi cornyn has a bill, Diane Feinstein has a bill. They dont have a sense from the white house that they want a targeted approach to this. They have continued to push for a broader approach. At this moment, what the house is doing is purely a partisan effort. There is no effort in the senate right now to match that and no democrats that will support any of the house legislations moving through on the off chance that it actually passes. So where does that leave things . Well, the president is is com co the capitol with a lot more questions than answers and a lot more riled lawmakers that are not on his side, john. Phil mattingly at the white house. Phil, appreciate it. Rachel bayne with politico, jeff zeleny and Anthony Pardi withpa. Senator hatch sending a message to the president. Will this get anywhere . About 24 hours ago or so, they were keeping a loose list of republicans speaking out against this. Now that list is so long, its essentially who isnt speaking out against it . So i think the sense that the white house is, you know, believes that it is a good issue in some respects for them or it was a good negotiating issue has, in fact, become a disaster. Read the wall street journal editorial this morning, read the New York Post editorial yesterday. When you have folks like orrin hatch and others, people who support the president and want the president to do good things, publicly they havent blinked. I asked Sarah Sanders in a briefing last evening if the president would be willing to simply sign something that would deal with this. She said he doesnt want a bandaid approach, he wants his wall. He could just call the Justice Department and say, stop. Well see what happens at that house Conference Meeting this afternoon. Blinking, i dont know. But legislation, absolutely. Well see why republicans are getting more upset about this. You see the volume going up day after day. Its an election year. They dont like the policy, they also dont like the politics. The president always says, im right, youre wrong. A conservative guy who has been with the president , whether were talking about bob mueller, whether were talking about obamacare, has been with the president. Hopefully that will give us a path forward where democrats and republicans can come together and endorse a piece of legislation that deals with this issue at our border. Do you have a sense that the white house actually supports a standalone bill to deal with this . Really, at this point its more a legislative action. I think the administration has said that. Its up to congress to act on this particular thing. Someone help me with the odds on that . Again, mark meadows disagrees with this policy, but he says as of now hes leaving the white house talking to our abby phillip, they want a package. The odds being negative what that congress can agree on an immigration package . Oftentimes when you talk about immigration on the hill, it doesnt take more than five seconds for people to add more and more pieces. They want to fix this, but then they want to increase money for border enforcement, then we want a solution for daca. Its really tough for lawmakers just to do a solution. That being said, its clear from rsponses on the hill unlike when the president ended daca, he said, come to me with an immigration bill. Ill fix daca and help the dreamers. Republicans are more uncomfortable with this, even more so than when he ended daca. That pressure is going to keep increasing. I know republican leaders, paul ryan and his team right now, are trying to keep a proposal to fix this in a bigger immigration package because the president wants it to get his wall, to get these other things the president wants it, forgive me for interrupting, but will they stand up to him . Theyre writing opeds, theyre issuing statements. They are varying degrees of optimism, but some are saying its cruel, some are saying its immoral, some will say it has to stop. Will they say that when theyre in a room with the president of the United States and they may say, ill bring a bill to the floor that everyone wants, but he needs to stop this. This is someone who really understands how trumps mind works and the language he used was similar to what the white house said, shifting the blame on congress, saying this is a legislative issue. I think there is a soft approach that some of the republicans the president actually listens to could take in approaching him this evening. There are also those moderate republicans who are pretty fed up and know this could cost them in november, so they may take a different tact as well. There is a conflicting interest right now with House Republicans, and that will be evident in this meeting. They need the president to back this immigration bill if they have any prayer at passing it. So why would they press him and say, mr. President , youre doing a terrible thing. Stop this. They just wont do that because they need him for cover to pass this bill. If they can pass that bill. Right. And i think the confusing message from white house about why theyve adopted this policy is a big problem for House Republicans. They look to the president and to the administration for guidance. And thats not all that unusual. Its sort of the way that house majorities work when that same party is the president. The problem here is that clearly, the white house was not prepared with any sort of unified message on this, so what are they supposed to say except their constituents are seeing these images, hearing these terrible sounds and are outraged. Theyre responding to what their own constituents are likely telling them. Again, the president s instincts, which have been right a lot, which is one of the reasons he sticks with them. He said, i did this in the primaries, i would not be stuck with this legislation, so he doesnt want to budge but you see pieces of the coalition breaking away. Ted cruz is ahead in his race in texas by 15 points. Seems a little nervous. A conservative christian leader in iowa has a picture of the president in his office, taking issue with Jeff Sessions using biblical references to respond to this. The nuclear family, where children are raised, is a more fundamental social unit than a nation. The government has no right to place a National Border between a parent and a child. We can have justice with mercy. It is possible to be tough on illegal immigration without being cruel to illegal immigrants. Parts of the trump base dont like to see them. No question at all. I cannot think of one sector of the trump base that hasnt really risen up an objection to this. Your evangelicals, your chamber of commerce, your tea party voters. But i think that does not mean that the president will get an earful tonight. Remember when the president went to the senate in the wake of the criticism of john mccain . All this talk of hes going to get an earful. He didnt. When the president goes to visit someone, its much like hes at a Campaign Rally in a small room of the house. A room with low ceilings in the base of the capitol. He filibusters most of that time. In the end there is room for a question or two. I think thats one of the reasons hes not going to get a ton of questions. That doesnt mean people arent upset and looking for a way out. Who will stand up and say, sir, here is the math on our seats. Its bad politics. If you want to keep the majority, who will stand up and say, next year this will be democrats. Democrats will have the gavel if you dont help us. We need your help. Some parts of the white house actually believe the opposite. This maybe reflects their own views about the fact they dont have much else to galvanize their base with ahead of the midterms. What about that tax cut . Exactly. It shows they dont have a lot of faith in that tax cut, really pulling the House Republicans across the finish line. 55 of the republicans back this proposal, as surprising as it is. I think we should keep in mind that was done before this really reached this fever pitch, before people talked about this at services on sunday, et cetera. Plus its a national poll. Its a Midterm Election year. In president ial years we dont say look at the national polls, look at the electoral college. Look at those 20 or 30 house districts that will decide. Quick break. When we come back, the United States and china keep tariff threats against each other. Global markets dont like trade wars. Its just a burst pipe, i could fix it. laugh no. With claim rateguard your rates wont go up just beacuase of a claim. I totally couldve. wife nope switching to allstate is worth it. Im a Small Business, but i have. Big dreams. And big plans. So how do i make the efforts of 8 employees. Feel like 50 . How can i share new plans virtually . How can i download an efile . Virtual tours . Zipfile . Really big files . In seconds, not minutes. Just like that. Like everything. The answer is simple. Ill do what ive always done. Dream more, dream faster, and above all. Now, ill dream gig. Now more businesses, in more places, can afford to dream gig. Comcast, building americas largest gigspeed network. Tough new trade threats from the white house today are being matched in beijing and the Financial Markets dont like it. Right now you see right there, the dow down three points after dipping 400 points a little earlier. That 400point plunge was noted that that would wipe out any gains for the entire year. The trade adviser Peter Navarro telling reporters that the president was a visionary, quote, with a special kind of courage. The president now threatening to slap china with tariffs on 2 billion amount of goods. Today chinas response more than firm saying they dont want to fight a trade war but theyre not scared of one. We advise the u. S. Side to return to reason, and stop words and actions that harm itself and others. This is the only way. Allis Allison Kosich joining us from the floor of ttrade floor. It shows just how nervous investors are how this war of the trade is going to work out. President trump said he would slap a 25 tariff on china exports. China quickly said it would retaliate, placing tariffs on high value American Goods like pork, soybeans, cars and crude oil. Then it says if china goes ahea place an additional 2 billion on trade. They want to wrap this up, but it seems to be going on and on, especially since that 50 billion worth of tariffs on chinese goods is expected to take effect on july 6. The worry is, of course, the market that you are seeing, the dow lost all of its gains for the year as we sit 295 points lower. John. Allison kosik on the floor. Lets bring it back to the studio. Again, heres an issue just like immigration we just talked about. Most of the president s party said mr. President would think youre wrong. Financial markets reacting in a way saying, mr. President , we dont think this is wise. The president says, i trust my instincts and you were on this call with Peter Navarro today, correct . I was. I was reading some of the quotes from him. Clearly hes playing to an audience of one. He has the president s ear right now and they seem quite determined. 200 billion more. Thats picking a fight. No question its picking a fight. The president is going to be traveling to duluth, minnesota for an election rally. Its being sponsored by his Election Campaign and this is the conundrum that will be unfolding in one state. Senators races, governors races, house races. But Peter Navarro said this morning that the president is going to duluth to talk to Steel Workers and bring back jobs to the iron range. Thats a classic part of the american sector that has had a decline over the years, no question. Hell be talking about that, but at the same time soybean farmers in the state of minnesota. Pork producers, beef producers are freaked out about this quite frankly, about what this is going to do to their market. Tomorrow essentially playing out in one state, a purple state essentially. It used to be blue, but not necessarily now. This is where his policies will be on the ballot in the Midterm Election here. So it worked for him in 2016. Well see about now, though, because there are a lot of red state voters who frankly are worried about this. Its the classic argument, manufacturing versus other sectors of the economy. Its a real one with a new focus. The president thinks hes right, and if there is a hit in the Financial Markets and if there is a hit in some sectors, it will be temporary. By the time 2020 rolls around, he can say, i was right. If your issue is youre a republican on the ballot in november, china tariffs on soybeans could cost iowa farmers 624 million. The tariff on lobster has maines industry on edge. Auto tariffs would raise prices, cost jobs. They say dont do this to us, and the Political Office led by the president seems much more focused on the longer term. There was an interesting reaction from gary cohn speaking to the washington post. An old Peter Navarro rival in the white house, who suggested that a trade war could undo the benefits of the tax cuts. Again, we talked about this earlier. Republicans dont have much to run on. Those tax cuts and the economic benefits that they can say come from that could be wiped out. I think thats something that republicans are very concerned about. On the other hand, this is the view that the president has. Peter navarro and President Trump are sympatico on the overall good of tariffs. Tariffs can be good while we have a test case apparently developing right now. Peter navarro, descendant. Hes lost these arguments just like gary cohn, his predecessor, did. The secretary of state, mike pompeo. His job is not to do trade policy but he does have to sit down with his international counterparts. He says this is a fight we have to fight. Were taking a really hard line on foreign practices that harm america. Everybody knows china is the main perpetrator. Its an unprecedented level of larceny. I was with president xi on thursday night. I reminded him that thats not fair competition. But its a joke. Lets be clear. Its the most predatory economic government that operates against the rest of the world today. Hes right. Hes right. This is a problem that needs to be dealt with, and the question is, and people are debating, is trade war the right way to do it . Should do you it in negotiations . Their answer is china wont move until you show them youre willing to push. The question is whats the political impact . Republicans do want the administration to push back on china. But when it comes to slapping tariffs on goods coming from our u. S. Allies, that makes them really uncomfortable. There is a tricky balance that the administration has to strike between penalizing china and escalating into a trade war, and it seems like we are 100 escalating into a trade war. I don

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