Count Pete Buttigieg in and count him as number nine, today the mayor of south carolina, an afghanistan veteran, a Rhodes Scholar and just 37 years old. I belong to a generation that is stepping forward right now. Were the generation that lived through school shootings, that served in the wars after 9 11 and were the generation that stands to be the first to make less than our parents unless we do something different. We begin the hour with movement on capitol hill, but no real hope that movement will actually lead to a solution, this on day 33 of the partial Government Shutdown. Pictures here, federal employees protesting in the Hart Senate Office building this hour. Those folks dreading, no doubt, the second missed paycheck come friday. The second, the senate will vote on two opposing bill, and one from President Trump and the other from democrats, neither bill expected to pass. The president showing optimism in his partys plan this morning, tweeting great unity of the Republican Party wants to once and for all put an end to unstoppable crime and drugs. Border security and wall, no doubt. He then tweeted what you expect to become a new trump catch phrase, build a wall and crime will fall. Democrats showing as much resolve, senator Chuck Schumer saying moments ago, the democrat plan, in his view, asks so little. The president s proposal demands a wall and radical Legal Immigration changes in exchange for opening up the government. The second vote demands nothing in exchange for opening up the government. So the first vote, unless you do it my way, im keeping the government shut down. Thats the trump amendment. Our amendment. Open up the government and then lets talk. The first vote is completely partisan. The first vote is the president s hostage taking position codified into an amendment. Cnns manu raju live on capitol hill. Manu, are these show votes or important votes even though we dont expect either plan to pass . We dont expect either to pass. The question is what happens after they likely fail . The president s proposal has no chance of passing. That has virtually no democratic support, maybe one, maybe two democrats will support it and certainly not enough to overcome 60 votes and republicans plan to block or believe that they have enough votes to prevent the democratic plan, the one that passed the house to reopen the government up until early february. They believe that they will be able to prevent that. Of course, he was going to oppose that plan for preceding 13 republicans would need an effect to overcome that moving forward. The question is what happens afterwards. Nancy pelosi had a closeddoor meeting with her democratic colleagues this morning and told her members, stick together. Stick to the plan, the plan being push the white house to reopen the government first and then lets talk afterwards. She urged her members not to freelance because doing so could undermine the position and they believe they are in a firmer ground and ultimately the white house and republicans will cave, but again, we have not seen that happen yet and john, also, we have not seen talks occur over the last two weeks and i am told that nancy pelosi and the president have not had any conversations since the january 9th meeting which the president stormed out of the white house during the very contentious session and of course, weir hearing from people, the way to resolve this is for the democrats and the white house to come to a deal, but theyre not even talking right now and these votes tomorrow are likely to fail. The question is what happens afterwards . John, the 23rd of january. Have not spoken since january 9th. Thats a bleak outlook. With me in the studio to share insight, Michael Bender with the wall street journal, tamara beating with npr and the washington post. Were talking about the votes which could bring something. Are they show votes . The republicans will vote for their plan, the democrats will vote for their plan. The question is after that will you get something and might that include the speaker and the president deciding even though we disagree, maybe we should talk . Maybe at the very least this week . Were seeing at least some movement here. There is going to be a vote related to the shutdown in the senate for the First Time Since this started a month ago, but inside the white house, i think that they are they are trying to project, the polls have shown that everyone is blaming trump on this,s as he said, and he urged people at the start of it. Theyre trying to project an image of winning. Theyre trying to rally their troops and what theyre talking about inside the white house is they can hold out as long as possible and trying to put the pressure pelosi and try to splinter off democrats cl they which theyve had no luck doing so far and trying to leverage trumps unpredictability. Its sort of the same tactic they used in Foreign Policy and trade negotiations with china mexico and canada, but where this goes, you know, its still an open question. And somebody else at the table help and i know youre in the middle of that and you have to keep a strong public face and they keep saying theyre winning. With the caucus theyre winning and the antiimmigration hardliner, hes winning and hes the president. If you look at the new cbs poll, is the border wall worth the Government Shutdown or not . Yes worth it . 28 , not worth it, 78 . Among republicans, yes, worth it 56 . 43 of his own party and a lot of people support the border wall. They just dont think you should screw 800,000 people for a second pay period with not getting a paycheck. Im not saying the democrats dont have a responsibility here, too, but how is the president winning . Typically, the president in polls has 85 support among republicans and to have 40some percent of republicans saying, ooh, this strategy isnt really possibly working for us. It isnt worth it because what the president said when he said he would own this shutdown is its worth it for the wall. Now at least some part of his base is saying its not worth it for the wall. We have to wonder if and when it gets reflected in the congressional gop because trump has the privilege of saying im not going to budge. I can sit around forever and it doesnt matter how many fbi employees and tsa employees start screaming about other points of National Security that are in danger that arent the wall, but eventually does this trickle up to affect senators so much that they say i cant do this anymore. Im not going to do it anymore. How many republicans cross over . There wont be enough, but how many . How many will say after that vote is over, okay, we stuck with the party on this one. We released the tension and weve done it, but now were not doing it again. And again, how does the president define this as winning when they say no sir. The question is when does the speaker or the president pick up the phone and talk to each other . Weve seen some, just a few. A lot of democrats saying we dont want to keep the government shut down and only a few saying we will give the president a little bit here and a little bit there. The democrat senator of ohio. He may run for president saying, yeah, sure some democrats want to get the government open. What . I think i think democrats are open to any ideas that dont just encourage and entice the president to do it again. I dont know how you put strings on a bill saying the president cant keep acting like a jerk. Colorful language colorful language, but that is the democratic point if we negotiate anything before the border wall before the government is reopened then whats to stop the president with the fight after that. Thats the language you hear more and more. He said it in more memorable, folksy sort of way, but pelosi and this idea that over and over again, he can use this tactic. He can use government workers and a Government Shutdown as a tactic for more Border Security or a border wall. If he gets 5 billion hell need more money, will he do it again and again . The big question is these republicans, theyre clearly already hearing from constituents and this isnt the 800,000 and the businesses relying on those people having to spend on those businesses and they are hearing it and this test vote on tuesday, do people that we think would cross the line and people like collins and murkowski and people like corey gardner, do they cross the line at this point . And there are democrats, we heard from a democrat in minnesota saying give the president the wall at this point and it seems unlikely. The democrats are dug in on this and the thing is what President Trump wanted. Hes called for a shutdown over and over again and he finally got it this go round. He said it in the beginning. He would be proud to do it. To be fair for the president , our bill weir went to iowa, if you talk to farmers, now they cant get data from the Agriculture Department about future trump planning and still trump voters say were going to hang in for now. You know, i think theres some growing uneasiness. Were sort of in the middle of the game and you cant pregame the outcome of the game in the middle. You can second guess the coaching if youre down by 50 points. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Were down by a few touchdown, if you want to put it that way. He campaigned on a lot of the things hes doing right now and hes doing it. Theres that faith in, i dont like the short term, i dont like today, i didnt like yesterday, im not going to like tomorrow, but give the president a chance and those are the people he hopes tech with him. It raises the question that sharon brown is answering. Heres the solution for the border wall. Here is a solution to get the government reopened and were going to kick the can on daca and tps and well have the fight again. And some of the stuff angered part of his base, right . The daca and tps stuff. You had anne coulter saying this guy is jeb bush and we wanted donald trump. The democrats dont trust him to do it. Theyll have a broader immigration, and which is why they dont want temporary anything and they want permanent and welcome to the week. Well have fun. Lets watch the votes tomorrow and what happens after these votes. Up next a new poll gives nancy pelosi higher marks for her negotiating bill. 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Lets go inside the numbers for the pollsters podcast, democrat Margie Romero and republican sanderson. And everybody goes off into their partisan corner. If you look at the numbers that have been out in the last couple of weeks, is there any warning sign for either side to blink . I think this is one of the worst polls to in out for republicans and President Trump thus far in the shutdown. His job approval has slid about half a point to a point each week which isnt the direction you want it to go, but it hasnt presented a political crisis yet. I would argue that having fewer than three out of four republicans saying youre doing better at the shutdown, the numbers among republican, even though they look good and they should be in the 80s and 90s, that represents that trump is headed in the wrong direction and theres further for him to go that only 35 in the poll thinks hes doing a better job think there are some folks that currently approve of him a little bit and maybe theyre republicans, but they dont think either side is doing a good job and his numbers could go even lower. When nancy pelosi tells democrats stick with the plan. Wed all like the government open, but stick with the plan. Is she in a safe position or is there a worry for the democrats . I think the challenge is looking at the percentage of folks who feel personally affected and feel that this is a serious problem. Those numbers seem to be getting worse. You have more people who feel that theyre affected. It depends on how different polls ask it a different way, but its about a fifth. Those numbers are not as partisan in this poll as they have been in previous polls. That is a bipartisan worry that this is a really serious challenge and it really challenges what trump has said about himself. I can fix it. Im going to keep people safe, im going to do things differently. I can make the best deals and thats not what voters are seeing when they look at whats happening with the shutdown . If you look at the numbers, if we lived in a normal washington and if you had a traditional president you would look at these numbers to your point, its not going well, what do you want trump to do now . Agree to a budget without a wall. Open the government. 66 , twothirds of the americans say mr. President , give in. Now, but again, among republicans and this is where you see some danger. Agree to a budget without a wall, refuse the budget, stick to your gun, mr. President , 65 . Twothirds of twothirds of republicans say stick to your guns, but that 32 is the warning sign. Hang on to the 65 because he believes thats as much as hes going to get. He has realized hes not going to win over democrats no matter what he does and hed be in real big political trouble if all of a sudden his bottom falls out and if his base is no longer with him. If he gives in, will his numbers go back up with independents and democrats . Maybe, maybe not, but they might really drop with republicans so hes gotten himself into a bit of a loselose situation. Do democrats have to give him something on the wall . Heres the thing about the questions. Is it a question of the wall or the budget . Is it appropriate to shut down the entire government as a way to solve policy disputes or is it a political tactic that people feel there are real consequences and its partisan politics and it hurts real americans and i think voters are seeing this as the latter, as something thats just not an appropriate way to have a policy dispute or disagreement. Its rather than about any specific policy. We need the government to be open with health care reform, government reform and ethics and these other issues and thats why folks across the aisle are saying this is not the right path. We are focused on the here and now which is the fight over the border wall. Weir also in the early days of the 2020 campaign. A democrat gets in today and democrats are getting in and we assume the president will be the republican nominee. If youre the president and you mentioned this earlier. The cbs poll has this Approval Rating going down. 37 approve, 57 disapprove. Hes heading down. He just lost an election. The democrats take the house. In the early months of the new year your numbers are going down. If youre a president rafrmimpip for reelection, what do you do about that . They rebounded when the economy got better and they rebounded after the tax reform passed early last year in part because it seemed like the economy is going well and things are moving in washington even though the tax reform bill was meddling popularity. Its not to say they couldnt again and bear in mind the last time the Government Shutdown the republicans took a beating in the polls and its possible he could recover from this. Weve got a long time until next november. Next november. One last thing and this is the pew number. You look at genz and millennials. Approve of younger voters, trump is in the tank. Do you think he will solve problems . Those numbers look strong. Is there a cliff for the Republican Party if they dont find a way to change the numbers among younger americans . Now there are two generations, millennials and genz who both hold positions and not just that President Trumps not doing a good job, but on the ideological core question, what should the role of government be in society. Government should be doing more, that is the real trouble for republicans. Its not just about trump. Are they solid numbers or can they change . Certainly numbers can be fluid, right . Numbers can change. We dont see an indication that the president will do things differently than hes done. You asked before what things the president can do to change it, sure there are, but has he shown an inclination to do it . Wed be in trouble on our side if republicans listened to millennials and the new genz, and there was a new chance to listen to chris on genz. Thanks for coming in. Thanks. Up next, there is a new 2020 candidate with a tricky last name. The best way to pronounce your last name . Buttigieg. Around south bend they call me mayor pete and thats fine with me. 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