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CNNW New Day August 28, 2014

Baghdadi eight days after the milttant group threatened to kill her son. Shirley demonstrates her knowledge of history, culture and morality. Ive learned a lot about islam . Trying to persuade stevens captors to release him, appealing to the same religion isis says justifies its violence. Ive learned that islam teaches that no individual should be held responsible for the sins of others. Reporter she even addresses baghd baghdady but his selfappointed title of caliph. You the caliph can grant amnesty. I ask you to spare his life. Reporter sotloff looking forward to a homecoming similar to Peter Theo Curtis earlier this week. Total strangers have come up to me and said hey, were glad youre home. Welcome home. Reporter cambridge in cambridge, massachusetts, with his mother held after two years of captivity by a different Jihadist Group. I say a huge thank you from my heart, from the bottom of my heart. Reporter this as were learning about more americans on the other side of the fight, reports that Douglas Mcarthur mccain, a minneapolis native killed fighting for isis in syria over the weekend, isnt alone. According to a Syrian Coalition fighting against isis another american also fighting alongside the group was killed. He has not yet been identified. Now it should be noted that mccain was fighting for isis when he was killed, that james foley was killed by or at hand of isis, and mr. Curtis who lives right down the street from here, he was release ed by an a nusra front which is a rival which gives you an idea of how complex this is and we can only hope that sotloffs plea ends well. Miguel marquez for us in cambridge, thanks so much. The u. S. Is looking to countries around the world to join a military campaign to stop the isis surge. The state Department Says humanitarian and diplomatic help are also needed, but with air strikes on the table Big Questions about whether other countries will join a coalition with the United States. Michelle kosinski is live at white house this morning. How are those overtures to other countries going . Do we know . Reporter what the white house says it is doing right now is considering possible options, gathering information and in its words enlisting International Partners to be a part of whatever this effort is moving forward. We know that that includes not just the expected partners britain and france, but lately the white house has also been emphasizing heavily the importance of regional partnerships, for example, encouraging sunni tribes within iraq to fight isis, but then when you look at situation in syria, of course, that is much more difficult and much different. Even at this point in identifying targets. Also that question of who do you work with there, and its not as if the u. S. Is going to be invited in. Now the white house also insists that addressing the isis threat is going to have to include both iraq and syria, but they are not spelling out at this point at least that that must include a military response. They say they are also looking at humanitarian needs and continue to work with the moderate Syrian Opposition, alisyn. Michelle, thanks so much for that update. Well check back in to john. We have a lot going on this morning. We have this plea for a release from a mother to isis. We also have news of another american killed in the struggle fighting alongside isis so lets talk about this a little bit more. Lets bring in patrick skinner, a former cia officer and harris rafiq with quillium, a think tank dedicated to combating extremism. Harris, i want to start with you. Weve opinion listening to this hostage video, this plea i should say from the mother of Steven Sotloff, and its remarkable from the get go, the language she chooses to use. I want to listen to a part of it right now in how she opens and addresses the leader of isis in and of itself is fascinating. Listen. Im sending this message to you Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi, the caliph of the Islamic State. She calls him the caliph of the Islamic State, how he wants to be known as right now, really only the people perhaps following him inside that region inside iraq believe that right now. Yet she uses that term. Why . I think when i heard that for the first time that there were two reactions that i had. The first one was as a muslim i actually didnt like the fact that she used the word caliph, but, however, we have to understand that this is a mother who is using every tool available to her to try and get the release of her son. Shes appealed to his selfperceived status. Shes appealed to the titles used all the titles the titles using for himself, and shes also trying to appeal from an islamic pective and also to try and say, well, you know what, you are claiming youre a muslim. Here is what islam believes. Please be merciful in the name of islam in the name of my son, and this is something that if hes a muslim he may well consider because that may give him more propaganda and pr amongst other muslims who may be thinking about joining isis or supporting them. Lets talk about the propaganda and pr there for a second. Patrick, you know, is this a victory for al baghdadi right now, having someone whose image is being beamed around the world refer to him as caliph . I dont know if its a victory. They have so much propaganda going on. Im sure they will try to spin it, but it was the obvious move that she had to make. I dont think its a big deal that she called him the caliph because us in the media and the experts, we call them the Islamic State when they were neither islamic nor a state so i think its just a desperate move, and i understand it. I dont know if they are going to capitalize too much on it. When you say you dont know if they are going to capitalize too much on it, what do you anticipate the response will be because it does seem in some ways as if its begging for some kind of public response, leave aside the moment of whether or not it will actually work to have this Steven Sotloff released, but it does beg perhaps for some kind of public reaction from baghdadi. Patrick . Theres going to be a reaction. I have no idea what it is. Hes probably making some calculations whether to be seen as merciful or to go the other way and to be more extreme than the other rival groups. Its a battle for the extremist sympathy. They are not really worried about what we think obviously. They are appealing to that fringe element that is trying to decide to go with isis or al qaeda or just stay on fence so hes making a clerics and i dont know what that is. Harris, you referred to some of the language there discussing islamic themes, in some cases more than 1,000 years old. I want to listen to another part of that right now so you can complain exactly what were hearing. Since stevens capture ive learned a lot about islam. Ive learned that islam teaches that no individual should be held responsible for the sins of others. Steven has no control over the actions of the u. S. Government. Wow, thats interesting to hear the mother talk about that, about the heritage of islam there. I think shes trying to use, as patrick said, every available tool that she has. Shes trying to plead to the fact that, you know, islam actually does refer to the fact that people, individuals, dont carry the sins of the state, but also i think whats really interesting here is that we have, as you mentioned, in the report earlier on, a hostage thats been released by a rival Islamist Organization in the region, the nusra front which is actually al qaeda, and here we have two organizations, al qaeda which is in the front and qatar negotiating and acting as the intermediary, and i think theres an interesting dynamic playing out here where they are trying to attract other people to come and join them rather than the nusra front, and she is actually appealing to the islamic selfperceived heritage and the beliefs that he claims he follows, and shes actually right, but its whether he considers that interpretation to be right toe seas not first to see. Well see if theres any kind of developments. Theres word also that another american was killed fighting alongside Douglas Mccain and fighting for isis in syria right now. Now that makes two dead american members of isis. What do you make of that . I think its quite digs turning, and its also an inevitable result of three years of civil war in syria. The narrative that isis is putting out, its also the narrative of al qaeda. Its bin ladenism, and its been going strong for 15 years, and so after a while the numbers are going to start to add up. There has to be some kind of reaction. We have to counter that narrative. It is very disturbing that these people, some would suggest they knew each other in minneapolis which makes sense that they would kind of form their own cell. Its actually hard to do it by yourself staring at a computer. Im sure intelligence officials right now are pulling on those threads of that sweater tries to trace back anyone else that they might know as well. Thanks so much for the discussion this morning. Appreciate it. Mike cla. Lets take a look at some of your headlines right now. Weve just learned that the death toll from the ebola epidemic has spiked to more than 1,500 with more than 3,000 people sick. Almost half of those cases that have emerged in just in the last three weeks. Thats a shocking statistic. The director for the centers of Disease Control says the Ebola Outbreak is even worse than he originally feared. In an interview with cnn tom freeden says isolating west africa is not the answer. A cdc employee has been flown back to the United States after being exposed to ebola. The agency says he is not sick but that they will monitor him for three weeks and watch for symptoms. Breaking overnight, a new clue suggests that Malaysia Airlines flight 370, it may have turned south earlier than first believed. New information was obtained through data from a Satellite Phone call. Ground crews tried contacting the plane after it fell off radar. Officials in australia say further examination may help get a better idea of the planes path. Protests continuing today for michael brown, this time organizers. They are taking their cause to washington. Demonstrators will gather outside the white house this evening and deliver a petition with nearly 1 million signatures urging the department of justice to fully investigate and prosecute all Police Officers involved in the fatal shooting. Meantime, authorities in ferguson, missouri, they have scaled back police presence. A small group of demonstrators took to the streets tuesday and remained peaceful. A pivotal ruling on immigration. A government immigration board now says that Domestic Abuse claims can factor into immigrants request for asylum in the United States. This decision stems from the gays of a guatemalan woman who came to the u. S. Illegally back in 2005. She successfully argued that her husbands abuse and the lack of Police Response should make her eligible for asylum. This is now up to an immigration judge to make a final ruling. Immigration is getting more complicated, not more simple. More intricate. Hasnt been part of the discussion for the last few weeks in a very public way because of everything that goes on but as we head past labor day the president likely to act and this will be front back on the front burner. And crisis in ukraine. Country claims that russia sin saiding, sending its troops in. What is russian president Vladimir Putin planning . Were live from russia with the news. U. S. Banks hacked by the russians . What does this mean for you and your bank account . So, your site gave me this Credit Report card thing. Can i get my experian Credit Report. Like, the one the bank sees. Sheesh, i feel like im being interrogated over here. Shes onto us. Dump her. phone ringing . Hello . Oh, man. That never gets old. No it does not. Not all Credit Report sites are equal. Experian. 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Officials say that rebel forces backed by Russian Troops and equipment including heavy artillery are now entering a key town along ukraines Southern Coast believed to be rich with minerals and oils. Officials in kiev are calling for an emergency session at the United Nations to address what the ukrainian calls a Russian Military invasion. The United States ambassador to ukraine says russia is now directly involved in the fighting. Some pretty serious accusations right now. Phil black is in moscow for more. Good morning, phil. Good morning, john. Yes, the Ukrainian Government has talked about Russian Troops entering ukrainian territory before but not like this, not on this scale. What they are describing is really a very largesized military operation with Russian Troops involved directly in the fighting in two key locations. Near the city of donetsk, that major city in the region and also the southern port city near there, the southern part city of ma mariopol. As the Ukrainian Government has driven back Russian Forces looking poised for an outright military victory, with the chances of russia disrupting that progress, those increases have increased significantly and theres also worry that the russians may be trying to form sort sort of land bridge linking mainland russian state with the Crimean Peninsula, the territory russian annexed. So far from russia itself no specific comment on these allegations but whenever confronted with claims of involvement in ukraine the russian government has denied it outright insisting they are just bystanders to this conflict. John . Its interesting, phil, to get a no comment to the question are you invading another country right now . Nevertheless, thank you so much. Phil black in moscow for us. Appreciate it. For more lets bring in bobby ghosh, the managing editor of quartz. Just heard phil black say this is happening as we speak, a fullfledged invasion they believe happening in two different regions, donetsk and then this port city here where suddenly they say that they are seeing russian soldiers and weaponry. What do we know . So whats been happening recently is the Ukrainian Forces have surrounded quite a lot of the prorussian rebels in donetsk and right here. It looks like thats going to fail. It seems to be an attempt of strengthening the rebels in the northern part of donetsk and creating a diversion pulling away some of the Ukrainian Forces here and creating relief for the rebels and allowing them to create this. You see this as a diversion rather than an important acquisition of a port city. The bigger borders around here. Right here. Mariopol, it would appear that they are going towards that port. If this is an invasion, then the logical progression is to go all the way here to the Crimean Peninsula and hook up with other russian sort of forces here. If this is simply a diversion, then basically this is where this incursion will stop, and they will pull some forces away from the ukrainian troops here and allow the rebels to essentially give them some breathing space and give them territories they had lost. You say if this is an invasion. The reason that this is an invasion that were watching happen in realtime right now, they say that there are reports of columns of tanks, Armored Vehicles, artillery, multiple rocket launchers and russian soldiers having come in. Thats new. Russian soldiers fighting with the rebels for a while but this level of hardware we have not really seen. That suggests something bigger. Whether this sort of amounts to a fullfledged invasion depends upon the ambitions of russians. Are they trying to take and hold territory or are they simply trying to create some space for prorussian rebels to operate. Heres the evidence of russian soldiers, ukraine says that they have captured ten of these russian soldiers just recently so they believe that they have been sent across the border to help the rebels fight. Yeah, and the rebels are saying, look, there was a new statement from the rebels just this hour saying we havent been hiding the fact that there are russian soldiers fighting alongside us and they claim, to give them some plausible deniability. Many of these are russian soldiers on vacation, they are coming to help us and believe in

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