And economic restrictions on the island nation. The surprise move has set off a Major Political fight on capitol hill. But it extends far beyond. What will it mean and for whom is very much in doubt. Except for one thing, it means alan gross is coming home to the Sony Pictures announcing it United States, a government will not release its new movie, contractor, freed by the castro regime after five years in the interview, following prison. Threats at theaters and now sony this moving image, did you see officials preparing to announce this . Its gross celebrating his that north korea is behind the freedom on a u. S. Government threats and cyberattack on sony. Plane after taking 0 off from this as a defector who once cuba. Watching the news, where else, worked as a computer expert for on cnn, on new day. So weve got this developing north korea tells cnn that pyongyang is running a vast story covered from every angle. Network of hackers who lets begin with the white house, michelle kosinski, this is a big day, this is all about cyberattack perceived enemies, the narrative now, what this here to discuss is brian means and how, michelle. Stelter, host of reliable after 1840 days, more than five years, alan gross was sources. Released from a cuban prison and and cnn correspondent kyung lah live for us in seoul, south flew back to america to hugs, korea. Newt gingrich called this americas first cyberwar. Popcorn and corned beef sandwich and if thats the case, has the and the biggest, most stunning u. S. Just admitted defeat change in u. S. cuba relations in somehow . Well Sony Pictures and the five decades. Not exactly welcomed by theater owners, if so led that. Everyone. Some members of congress to you know because these theater owners, one by one yesterday vowing to aggressively thwart it. Backed away from the movie. Were under tremendous pressure how does it feel to be a free not to show it and then sony had man. The release of alan gross, little choice but to cancel. Shawn, you were with the fbi more than a happy reunion, now the sudden reestablishment of for 24 years. Diplomatic relations with cuba. What do you make of the u. S. In Fidel Castros brother still at the helm has erupted into some form or at least sony, another political firestorm. Caving to this outside threat. This policy contradiction is does it set a precedent for future cyberattacks . Absurd. And its disgraceful for a i see this no different than president who claims to treasure any other type of terrorist human rights and human freedom. Especially from hispanic attack. I think its important for the u. S. Government and the private lawmakers, who felt left out of sector to Work Together in terms the discussion. Some possibly running for of how we respond to this. President next round. Weve been consistently but from a terrorist perspective, when youre using violence to enforce actions and alienating and abandoning our influence people, we cant cave to those types of demands. We cant cave, but we did friends and allies and appeasing cave. Thats why so many in hollywood are outraged by this. And coddling our enemies. Sony is not the u. S. Government. Can we equate whats happening first russia, then iran, now here with the u. S. Caving . Cuba. Or sony, which is just a big not only republicans. Its a fallacy to believe corporation, watching its bottom line, doesnt want to have a that cuba will reform because an threat on its hands. American president opens his what would you, would you have hands and the castro brothers recommended that they pull the will suddenly unclench their plug on this . I dont want to criticize sewny. Im not saying that they caved. Fists. President obama spent a day im saying that as, as a explaining. We want to see greater freedom. Citizenry, this type of attack greater prosperity. Has been going on for a long time. Greater opportunity for ordinary were hearing about this one at cubans. This, the first time an sony now. It is not the first time weve seen attacks by nation states we american president has reached out to cuba since the revolution have to come up with a strong policy as a nation. In the 1950s will mean an maybe the point here is that sony was afraid that we as embassy in havana, rue moving americans would be afraid to go to the movies and thats why the cuba from the list of state sponsors of terror, and Opening Company caved. Maybe as a country we had to some commerce. Stand up more strongly with a the steps lauded by u. S. Backbone and say, were not business and agriculture. It is the right thing to do. Going to let us diswade us from today america chooses to cut going to the movies on loose the shackles of the past. To reach for a better future. Christmas. I think brians got a point cuba has agreed to release there. I think this calls for very dozens of Political Prisoners strong u. S. Policy and a very and open the internet and strong u. S. Response. Connectivity to its people. I think we need to talk softly critics say, not nearly enough. And care ray big stick. U. S. Has some capabilities, plus, a spy swap including a weve got to have discussions cuban convicted of conspiracy to about this. I see this as the next nuclear murder rankled many, for whom issue. Weve got to sit down nation to this subject is still raw. Nation and have strong discussions. Because all of our infrastructure is at risk. The president knew it was coming, addressing that reaction, before it even kyung lah, whats the started. Let me say that i respect reaction in south korea particularly to the announcement your passion. And share your commitment to from the u. S. That north korea liberty and democracy. Is behind this . The question is, how we uphold well, there isnt necessarily that commitment. I do not believe we can keep surprise. Because as were just hearing here in this discussion, this is doing the same thing for over something that has been ongoing. Five decades and expect a this is something that south different result. Korea was rudely awoke ton last the white house says you know, we have relations with year when there was a hack china, vietnam, other countries attack of the bank systems. That dont exactly have a banks were frozen, people stellar human rights record and couldnt get access to their they see this as a path towards money out of atms nationally for meeting those human rights goals days, because the government eventually. But some members of congress are said it came directly from north korea. There are threatening not to this is a shot across the ocean to the United States. Fund a new embassy in cuba, not thats the interpretation here. To confirm a new u. S. Ambassador it is a widening of a cyberwar to cuba. That has been seen. Even saying those words, u. S. And alisyn, were learning more. Ambassador to cuba, pretty were you talking about bureau amazing, chris. 121, were learning more about you know, its a good point, the Shadow Agency out of north michelle. It does remain to be seen how korea, the government is much of this can get done by confirming here in south korea just the president alone. That it does exist. And were hearing from experts it was very interesting to see who allude to something of 1,000 president obama and the cuban leader, raul castro now to 1800 secret agents around the world, that it may be a much delivering their contemporaneous speeches almost about this more organized attempt by north coordinated effort. And it reminds us of what korea to try to move into this happened with their handshake at parallel war of cyberwar. Nelson mandalas funeral. Thats chilling. Everybody said the shake may brian, would the answer here have been about more. Have been for sony just to it may have been about the talks release it online, take away the and other things. Threat from the theaters, but lets get to patrick oppman. Still mott be perceived as caving so much . One of the answers would have hes in a place where theres been to make this about a joe over this situation. Fictional dictator, not kim hes in havana. Patrick . Yes, joy, disbelief, tears. Jong jongun. On the other hand, that would cubans had no sense of have been selfcensorship. And weve got to stand up for negotiations were going on. They had no sense that an easing freedom of expression. Of tensions between the u. S. And one good answer would be to put it online. Sony said they didnt have any cuba were in the works. Plans to put it online. And you took a couple hours for i was told by a source, dont say never. Raul castro to address the cuban maybe someday well still see the movie. I wouldnt, i wouldnt assume it people. So for a couple of hours, it was wont leak. It could still leak. The foreign media telling people part of it has leaked. That this had happened yesterday some of sonys other movies morning. And they looked at us like we leaked online. Maybe this one will leak, too. Were crazy. What should the u. S. Response and then raoul castro came on tv. Be . Cheering people had tears in go ahead, kyung lah . Their eyes, there was stunned alisyn, i have to say, it is disbelief. And what really this opens the way for now, of course, the an important propaganda point here. The dvd, there are actual activists here in south korea embargo isnt going anywhere. Who are trying to get their hands on the dvd. And yesterday for the first time somehow because they want to try in the three years that ive to launch it across the border lived here, chris, i heard into north korea. They actually want to get a copy cubans talk about how they expect things to get better, of it. That in their minds at least, because they see it as being critical in trying to crumble the excuse the cuban government the regime. Thats how potent this movie is always falls back on, its the being seen here in the peninsula. Embargos fault that the economy so it has a significant amount never improves, thats somewhat of power. So there are a lot of people lessened and now the onus is on here hoping to get bootleg the cuban government to improve copies. Who knew this comedy would lives of its citizens. Become such a hotbutton issue. Chris . Patrick, theres no question theres hope now, hope is an appetite. We have to see if its satisfied kaung, brian stelter, shawn, thanks so much. Should sony have pulled the plug by the regime. In the u. S. , the response is very strong and divided, largely on the movie, the interview . Along generational lines. I want to bring in elena tweet us or response on sfas book. Pakistan is mourning, the machado. Nation reeling from a any time theres anything that comes out of cuba, this is schoolhouse slaughter at the where cubans comes. Hands of the taliban, 150 people they gather, they have very killed. We are now getting a look, our heated discussions as you saw last night. First look inside the very and in this particular instance, we saw generational divides as school where so many innocent victims lost their lives. You mentioned. Well give you a live report we tend to see the younger ahead. I have the worst cold with this runny nose. Cuban, to be a little more open about change on the island and also in terms of relations between the u. S. And cuba. Those older generations, the people who came here in the 50s and 60s, the people who went through so much when they left the island, left everything behind, suffered tremendous hardship, theyre very much opposed to any sort of change without seeing a political change on the island. With good reason. Its personal. Their pain and its pragmatic. Because what has been the indication that if you do something good for this regime, theyll do something good for anybody else, theres not a lot i better take something. Of proof there. Dayquill cold and flu doesnt treat your runny nose. They point out the fact that other countries have been going seriously . To cuba for decades and nothing alkaseltzer plus cold and cough fights your worst cold symptoms has changed. Thats the big issue they have. Plus your runny nose. They tell me they feel betrayed oh, what a relief it is. By the u. S. Government. Theyre angered by it and you ive had moderate to Severe Plaque Psoriasis most my life. Saw that here yesterday, chris. It wasnt as angry as ive but that hasnt stopped me from modeling. Seen it in the past. My doctor told me about stelara®. This has been going on for a long time, you have two more it helps keep my skin clearer. Generations of people here who with only 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses. Have a very different view about their connection back there and. Stelara® helps me be in season. Stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections maybe a yearning that can and increase your risk of infections. Somehow be facilitated by this. Some serious infections require hospitalization. And you have younger cubans before starting stelara®. Your doctor should test for tuberculosis. Who have been here for five, ten stelara® may increase your risk of cancer. Years who have family in cuba and are concerned about them. Always tell your doctor if you have any sign of infection, have had cancer, they may be more open to change. And the machados, you got to or if you develop any new skin growths. Do not take stelara® if you are allergic to stelara® be indifferent, you have to be or any of its ingredients. Unbiased, but you have your alert your doctor of new or worsening problems brothers generation, your including headaches, seizures, confusion and vision problems generation and then your parents. Different ideas in the same house. And different experiences these may be signs of a rare, potentially fatal brain condition. Which kind of shape those ideas. Serious allergic reactions can occur. One thing for sure, alina tell your doctor if you or anyone in your house needs knows this better than i do. Or has recently received a vaccine. This matters more than anything in a medical study, most stelara® patients else to people of cuban descent saw at least 75 clearer skin. Here, what happens with policy,. And the majority were rated as visavis that country. Cleared or minimal at 12 weeks. Lets bring in senator tom udall, a democrat from new stelara® helps keep my skin clearer. Mexico. He was certainly working hard to ask your doctor about stelara®. Secure the release of alan gross, he met with him in cuba a little over a month ago. Senator thank you very much for joining us. What was it like when you went back and saw alan gross there . What did you make of his situation . Well he wasnt in a great situation, theres no doubt about it, he had lost some teeth, his health wasnt great. And he had said he wasnt going to spend another year there. So we knew that we had to work very hard to try to get him out and we maintained a lot of ties with the administration. And talked with others and it was such a joyous day, so see i won this 55 inch tv for less him reunited with judy, his than 30 on dealdash. Com. Visit wife, and the rest of his family. Its a big thing in the life of dealdash. Com for great deals. Alan gross, but its also a big, and start bidding today bold step forward in the right direction. Were turning our back on a failed policy and moving forward with engagement. Thats the way i think the United States works best. Is engaging countries like cuba and supporting the cuban people. Under this policy all that i have seen from my several trips to cuba and have stud died is tt the leaders do better with this kind of policy, not the cuban people. This engagement is going to empower them. How do you have confidence in that proposition because of what you just said before, senator, every time something good happens to cuba it seems to only happen for the regime, and not the people, who are living in conditions and a lack of freedoms that Many Americans are still not aware of. Its very bad in cuba, economically and from a freedom perspective, where does your confidence come from . Theres no doubt about that. That theres a problem in terms of the economics. Thats why opening up travel and other restrictions, alilowing u to trade with cuba. Allowing our Business People to consult with them. Put aside this failed policy. And lets move forward. I think the key here is supporting what has been happening in cuba. Over the last at years or so we tush to the hunt for the there are 500,000 entrepreneurs taliban commanders behind the massacre of 148 people at the in cuba. We ought to be supporting them and supporting the school in pakistan. Privatesector efforts, you can Pakistani Military and now own land in cuba. Intelligence officials have thats something thats very travelled to afghanistan. Important to a democracy. So we need to be encouraging looking for elements of the Pakistani Taliban they believe those kinds of things with carried out the attack. This as journalists are given a engagement, rather than an look inside the school for the isolation policy, which hasnt done any good for the cuban first time, including our nic people or for the American People. And im just tremendously encouraged to see the business robertson, joining us from outside the school at peshawar. Some of the images were about community, the farm bureau, to show viewers are really ranchers and farmers in the upsetting and shocking scenes United States, enthusiastic inside that school. About this and moving forward with engagement with cuba. Michaela, it is, its haunting, you know ive seen you got two obstacles to things in there today that i entry here, could you argue you think are going to stay with me have little control over either. For some time. One of the rooms we went into, one is the one were discussing we were taken to by the army now, the oversight over this officers who showed us around was a computer lab, a small room regi regime, theyve getting squeezed and there are computers down by venezuela, squeezed by either side of the walls on the russia. Theyve been looking for a deep side. And there are chairs by those pocket. Could you argue you just gave computers. And underneath the computers on them one. The floor, there are just big but youre going to have to see pools of blood. How that plays out. Its so clear what happened, the other obstacles is your brothers taliban just went in there and and sisters in washington, d. C. , where the children were sitting theyre saying they wont fund at their computers, typing away, any type of Diplomatic Mission having a computing class, they in cuba. And you as a democrat are now were just gunned down mercilessly. The auditorium is, is almost as losing leverage when the new Congress Comes in. How do you think you get this bad, or worse, its hard to done . Well first of all, we have a figure it out. But the carnage is awful. Topnotch person there on the the army officer showed us the kid