G gissendaners lawyers saying she sobbed, and went out singing Amazing Grace and this i asked if she had any messages to give her children. I said, i need a statement to give to each one of them. She said, its easy. I love you. I love you. I love you. I am so proud of you. Her coconspirator, her former boyfriend, he had a separate trial, he was found guilty but sentenced to life with the possibility of parole. In fact, he could be paroled in as few as seven years. Quite a difference. Alis alisyn . Thats part of why this case has aroused so much interest. Lets bring in a friend of kelly g gissendaner. Reverend zap pashpa, i want to with you. What was it about kelly that inspired so many people to try to save her life . Its a lot of things. I think one is just her authenticity and the way she has taken her experiences, her experiences both of causing pain and experiencing pain, and tried to use those to help so many other people. What did she think about this disparity in the sentences . She conspired with her lover to kill her husband. It was her lover who delivered the fatal stab wounds. He did not get the Death Penalty. He got life in prison. As we just heard from our reporter, hes eligible for parole seven years from now. Why did she get the Death Penalty . Thats a big mystery and nobody really understands why this turned out the way it did. She was offered life. Her attorney at the time counselled her not to take it and here we are. Thats something her lawyers have been trying to dispute, the disproportionality of the sentences. Her children spoke out, trying to save her life. Pope francis tried to save her life. What were her last 24 hours like . Its just been the whole experience has been a roller coaster. Shes had shes constantly been preparing to die, but also hoping for clemency. Shes been trying to stay strong for her children. In fact, one of the many tragedies of today was her children were supposed to be with her, but they were forced to choose between speaking with the board of pardon and paroles or being with kelly and they chose to plead for her life so she didnt get to be with them and get to say goodbye to them in person. That was difficult. We can only imagine how difficult that is for them. Lets bring in joey jackson. We dont mean to downplay the crime, theres a man dead here. But explain the disproportionate death sentence between what she received and the person who actually did the stabbings. Good morning. Theres a process and the process provides for a Death Penalty if its a murderforhire case. Prosecutors have a great deal of discretion. At the time, she was offered a plea deal. She declined that plea deal and opted to move forward. At the discretion of the prosecutor they sought the Death Penalty, put forward their case and it was compelling enough to get the case. Certainly, one of the arguments is the disproportionality. The person who committed the stabbing in the neck and the back didnt get the Death Penalty because he cut a deal with the prosecutor but she did. It was offered and what was offered to her, you dont move forward. As a result of that, youll spend the rest of your life in jail. She declined that. We can argue that all day and night, but for georgia which provides for the Death Penalty, 31 states have it, 19 dont, and as a result, shes dead. Why didnt she take that plea deal that would have spared her life . Her attorney at the time counselled her not to. I think she put a lot of faith in that decision. Its absolutely true theres a process. The other part is board of pardon and paroles has the option to grant clemency. In the cases where they have granted clemency in the last 40 years it was because the sentence was disproportionate to the codefendant. One other issue is rehabilitation. The system provide says, in all types of criminal justice cases for punishment, deterrence. If were going to have a system predicated upon a person who could better themselves, find christ and a redeemable quality which could be better for society, why not view that . The parole board opted not to. Thats their discretion. Isnt death row people on death row, we dont believe theyre going to be rehabilitated. I think what reverend zappa would argue, the pope would argue and others would argue, theres always hope and always an opportunity if you have the commitment to move forward. Certainly she got a theology degree. She, by all means, was assisting and ministering other people. The parole board has the right to say, you committed the crime. There are victims here. That person who died was savaged, his body eaten in the woods, left for dead. We cant lose sight of that. The parole board said, she deserves and was given the Death Penalty. Were going to carry it out. Do you believe she was a changed person . Absolutely. Absolutely. I didnt know her 18 years ago, but the person i know is not capable of that. Kelly is so deeply remorseful at the same time of what shes done. Her transition has been real. Her kids will tell you that. The chaplain whos worked with her for 18 years will tell you that. Did she ever explain to you why she did the crime to begin with . Shes talked a lot about the kind of person she was at that time. She said she was selfish, lived a bit of a crazy lifestyle and didnt know how to love people like she does now. We havent talked in detail about that. I do know shes deeply remorseful was. We know you were a friend of hers. She became a friend to you over these past five years and we know youre feeling that loss this morning. Joey, i just want to say the Georgia Supreme Court, the chief of the Georgia Supreme Court, pope francis, this womans children, all appealed on her behalf to ask for her to get life instead of death. Why wasnt the parole board more flexible on that . Theres a couple ways to evaluate that. The system has to look at whether any legal errors were committed here. The fact is if the Legal Process carries itself out and a jury in its wisdom opted to give death then, of course, they have the skegs. Why go against a jurys decision . Thats one view. The other is why have a clemency board if theyre not going to consider compelling evidence, who have come to know you, who have come to find you have turned your life around. There are five members of that board. The majority has to vote. Governor doesnt have discretion but he appoints that board to sevenyear terms. They considered everything. They decided, look, you committed a heinous krirnlgs you were the impetus of it and as a result, youre paying the ultimate price. We appreciate you both being on with this this morning. Fireworks on capitol hill for funding over planned parenthood. The president of the Groups Organization grilled for five hours. Defiant richards called it true and offensive they profited from federal dollars. Quite an emotional day on the hill. It was. The line of questioning aimed at planned parenthood ranged from accusations around hosting pricey parties and overthetop fundraisers to providing abortion. The outrageous accusations lefltd against planned parenthood based on heavily drd videos are offensively and categorically untrue. Reporter on capitol hill tuesday do you defend the sale of baby body parts . No. Reporter gop members grilling planned parenthood president Cecile Richards for more than four hours for the companys use of 450 million annually of federal funding. You could have provided every Single Service to every single woman last year if you did not get a penny from the Discretionary Fund of United States congress. I disagree. Reporter at one point representatives slammed for their line of questioning. The disrespect, trampant heres today tells us whats really going on here. You dont expect us to be because youre a woman. Absolutely not. Reporter congressmen on both sides of the aisle fiercely defending their side. Youre getting a ton of dough. We harp on a womans right to make choices that are hers to make. Reporter richards was asked to explain the apology after this undercover video. It was first in a series produced by antiabortion activists discussing the transfer of fetal tissues. Which statements mp you apologizing for . I was apologizing for the what was said in a nonclinical setting, in a nonappropriate way. I dont believe you cant go go both ways. You cant say im apologizing for statements in one video and then not tell us what those statements were. Reporter richards reacting to the hearing on msnbc tuesday night. They are obsessed with ending access to Reproductive Health care for women in america. Reporter some democrats at the hearing agreed. Republicans are doubling down on their war against women. Senate republicans efforts to shut down the government over funding of planned parenthood failed. Today house lawmakers will take up the issue to continue to fund the government. Well take up the issue right here on new day, thank you. Well have more about this battle over planned parenthood funding. Well speak to the organizations number two as well as u. S. Congresswoman diane black who wants to defund planned parenthood. Well talk to the activist who produced those controversial undercover videos. Breaking news out of afghanistan. Thousands are fleeing kunduz this morning. Afghan Security Forces are unable to take back the city despite u. S. Air strikes and nato special forces. Lets bring in cnns Nic Robertson live with the very latest. People think, syria, iraq, they forget theres a war going on. Reporter the taliban has been getting stronger. The taliban were pushed back yesterday out of some places they had taken. Taken the jail, released 600 people, taliban. The government took that back. By the end of the day, taliban retain that from the government. The government cant get enough reinforcement in. They have cut the highway to the south where reinforcement would come in from. U. N. Worried because 600,000 people have fled the city. More than 100 civilians killed and injured. Afghan government says the taliban using civilians as human shields. The taliban state thats not true. The commander is still alive. It is a very confusing picture. The reality on the ground here is the Afghan Forces are struggling. They need the u. S. Air support. Most of the taliban casualties have come as a result of that. The taliban are not giving up easily. Details of the casualties that are occurring right now on the ground, those specific details very hard to come by. Alisyn . Thanks for all of that. 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The american model taking it up and turning it toward North Carolina but some other models not doing that. 110mileanhour storm off the florida coast. So, what are the u. S. Models doing . Turning it back to the left. Turning it around to the backside and a trough that could drag it back towards new york city. What is the european model doing . Taking it to the bahamas and sending it out to the ocean. Does it go to bermuda or the u. S. . We dont know yet. We know the european model did very good with sandy five days out. We dont know what it will do now. Things are completely different. We know whether joaquin hits the u. S. Or not, there will be more flooding here because this isnt from joaquin. Its from a big low Pressure Center that will develop off the east coast not even affected by joaquin but it will make significant rainfall, could be 10 more inches of rain with or without joaquin. Stay on it. 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The latest Smear Campaign is by our opponents to entrap our doctors and clinicians into breaking the law and, once again, our opponents failed. We heard the accusations, we heard the answers. So, should planned parenthood be defunded . To discuss, ben ferguson, host of the ben ferguson show, and maria. Ben, take the prosecution, because thats really what this is. Whats the best case to get rid of planned parenthood or defund it, in essence, and, maria, you respond. The fact they have people on camera selling baby parts is where i would start. I want to make this very clear. This is not about taking away a womans right to choose. This if we defund planned parenthood, this does not change roe v. Wade. Those trying to fear monger saying, this takes away a womans right to choose, its not ben, ben, i have to stop you there. Ben, hold on. No, no, let me finish. If you take away let me finish. Go ahead. Let me finish. You have the same right if we defunded planned parenthood with my tax dollars. The point is this, you dont take a half a billion dollars of taxpayer funds to give to an organization that butchers babies to sell their parts and was caught on camera multiple times. You can say these videos were doctored. There are multiple videos that have been put out in full length that are not drd that blatantly show people in leadership roles at planned parenthood selling baby parts which has nothing to do with a womans right to choose. Its very clear. Maria, i want to give you the opportunity to respond here. What ben is saying is a fact is exactly what planned parenthood is saying is not a fact. Theyre trying to recoup their costs for something thats purely legal and that is donation of fetal tissue. Maria, go. Thats exactly right. I think the facts here matter, even though i know republicans love to live in a factfree zone. Number one, planned parenthood is an organization nationwide that gives access to lifesaving Health Care Services to 2. 7 million americans every single year. If you take away the funding from planned parenthood, that will go away and, yes, 3 of that goes to abortion services. And none of that is paid none of the abortion part, except for the ones that are allowed under the law is paid by taxpayer dollars. Maria hang on. Maria hang on. Let me finish, ben. The part that the videos show, by the way, those videos have already been debunked by a forensic investigation, they were sliced, diced and spliced. They havent been debunked. In todays Digital World you can take videos to show whatever you want to show, and thats exactly what this organization did. Ma radio yeah. By the way, this organization its a great talking point. Has taken away a womans right to choose for many, many years. Bottom line is, it was legal let me maria, hold on. You made your point. What planned parenthood did was absolutely legal. Let me say this. It was part of the services they provide. You made your point. Chris they provide lifesaving services to women. You cant run out the clock on this one. Lets be clear. The idea they sliced these tapes, lets deal with that. Its not an idea. Its the truth. You cannot let me finish. You can say that all you want to and say theres a conspiracy. The fact is you have high executives at planned parenthood openly talking about performing abortions in a different ways to get the vital organs of babies to people that want to pay for them. You cannot deny that that was a conversation that happened in multiple locations around the country. Its an absolute lie to imply that this conversation did not happen. This conversation happened. It happened on video. It happened with multiple people in multiple locations. And just because you put a press release out and you all go to this training to say, oh, well, they sliced and diced it, the video is hold on, guys. Hold on, guys. They are in the business of selling baby parts. Hold on. Bottom line, as you know, they say theyre not selling baby parts for a profit. That they are the videos say they do. Well, sort of. I mean, the video of course hold on. They say between 30 and 100. This is hardly wait a second. Hold on, maria. This i