Brought down the missing jet, but they have yet to find any indications of an explosion. Im not aware of any sensors that picked anything up on this. Reporter terrorism is current think a suspicion, not based on nany concrete evidence translator we need to give the maximum amount of information in order to gival tru the truth. We owe this to the families. Reporter and at 1 48 a. M. , not responding to repeated calls just 40 minutes later. After another 2 minutes, completely dropping off radar. Egypt aviation referring to this strange pattern it seems more likely to have been a terrorist attack. Having a terror attack is higher than the possibility of having a technical. Reporter and greek Officials Say the plane swerved, then plunged, before apparently falling into the mediterranean. U. S. Officials say the swerving may just be the pieces of plane in the sky picked up by radar, supporting the here to think was some kind of explosion 37,000 feet in the air. The aircraft scheduled maintenance was done on time. There was no snags or anything that were reported. Reporter and the egyptian president just in the past hour offering his condolences and regret, and mourning the loss of these people on the plane. Clearly, the egyptians believe now that they know what happened, that, in fact, this plane fell out of the sky and hit the water, why that happened, though, remains a mystery at present. It does, though, seem clear, chris that this will now move from a search and rescue operation to a search and recovery operation, being run by the egyptians in conjunction with the greeks, the french and british helping out, as are the cypriots and italians. Very, very sad day particularly for the friends and family of those 66 people onboard. Chris . Thats right, becky. The situation started with a measure of optimism because it was an airbus 320 and would be less susceptible to massive damage on impact in the water, and the water temperature itself, but those hopes have faded with this extension of time. The argumentsy has also expanded. A lot more countries are involved now in a massive search effort even if it is about recovery as opposed to search. More of the coordination, people got hopes up, debris found only to hear later in the day it was not the debris they were actually looking for from this egyptair plane . Reporter yes, chris. I think lessons were learned from that to build in caution knowing this is the mediterranean, there are not strong currents that debris kind of stays out there in the sea, debris from other incidents, we know the one of migrants crossing the sea here, a lot of debris out in the mediterranean. So lessons learned. Today the greeks have two c130 aircraft operating out of this island crete and involved in this recovery effort, they have Surveillance Aircraft out there as well. The United States has a p3 orion Surveillance Aircraft over the water as well. The british from theirs base in cypress, not many fimiles from here have a vessel out aiding in that search effort. The greeks also on the next island over have two helicopters on standby to go in and assist in the Recovery Efforts there. Were told italians and scyprios also involved in this effort, but looking out of the weve lost our reporter for a moment to but will get back to him. A major focus, who had access to the plane before it vanished . The plane mace stopped isnt paris and tunis before it was lost off radar. From paris what have you learned . Reporter theyre not ruling out the idea the plane could have been sabotaged here at Charles De Gaulle airport. Just one of the lines of investigation at this point, i have to mention. When the aircraft arrived here at Charles De Gaulle there was a full sweep of the aircraft, all passengers got off and none got back on if there was salbotage, possibly it could have happened here. The whole investigation will ramp up another level and a huge amount of interest in what could have happened here, obviously, but sat the same time, theres bemusement of the idea that anyone could have put a device on an aircraft here, arguably the most secure airport in the world right now. Imagine the paris attacks both you and chris have reported on, you saw levels of security ramped up to unprecedented levels, and even today weve had baggage checks on the entrance to the terminal. Its being ramped up again today. One airport people cannot fathom how would you get a device on to the airplane. Having said that, figures that 86,000 people have security clearance to go air side at Charles De Gaulle and also learned that 85 people have had their passes taken away because of concerns they may have been radicalized or potential, had potential to be radicalized. Theres an issue here. Theyre looking a the it. No big official terror investigations here yet. Were just told by our sources theyre calling it verification, looking through all the evidence and possible links here and we do know they are liaising, the french intelligence agencies with the american and egyptian agencies as well, alisyn. Staggering numbers. 86,000 people with those, you know, special access badges and then 85 of them revoked pd thank you for all of that in the update. Lets discussion with our panel, mary schiavo, and Richard Quest and phil mudd and aviation analyst les abend a 777 pilot and contributing eder of flying magazine. I cant match an better panel to help figure out where the we are today. Phil, more than 24 hours after this incident where are you with what you think happened . The kwifirst question, why theres not a claim . Back when we had al qaeda conducting operations they would have claimed, i think by now, they would have controlled the operation. Transition 15 years downed road to isis. More loosely controlled organization, if they did that, stepping back what just happened . Are we sure we own this one . Im not certain we have a terar incident for a variety of reasons. I think this is still an open book. Les in just following this part of the analysis one more step, because, really it has just as much credence as the other analysis which is it may have been a terror attack. Absence seeing the fuselage and all evidence examined this is speculative. Intel sources on the french side, still under a state of emergency, so theyre very heightened. They Say Something very similar to phil mudd, saying these guys claim things when they dont do it, let alone when they have any reason to believe they have done it, and they also point to what were discussing about these swerves isnt the air. They say there is an equal chance that that is something falling out of the sky after exploding, as opposed to a pilot maneuver, and theyre looking at a equally. Do you . Well, you know, its hard to say. I mean, we dont really know for sure where were getting that data. I assume its greek air Traffic Control radar. It also could be coming from the transponder of the airplane that broke apart. If it broke apart, the battery still attached at the electronics bay, it still may be coming out with signals that talk about altitude and ternurn. But the turns tell me an airplane out of control by the crew. Not broken up and falling out of the sky . Its hard to say at this point in time. I think, the good news bad news. Good news, we found the debris. Bad news, the tank the families have been dreading. At the end of the day, this is going to help us look at the evidence. If its not, indeed, a terrorist act or to be a mechanical, technical issue or loss of control situation as a result of any of these, we may get a little closer to that, in that direction. Mary, i know you think the lack of responsibility claim by any terror group could be an ominous sign. It could mean that if this were, in fact, a terrorist act of some kind, it was really just a dry run . Right. There have been two major conspiracies in the past. One, of course, bojinka back in 1995, a first trial run, and the point was to try to see if they would succeed and then the second run would be a dozen airliners over the pacific, and their intent, of course to drop them in the ocean. So that people would not be able to find out, investigators couldnt find out until they had the bigger plot to execute, and then, of course, in 2006 we had what theyre calling the british plot, of course, it wasnt the british at all. What it was a plan to take seven u. S. Bound flights out of the sky from britain, and that, too, was a terrorist plot, and that is why we have the liquids ban today. They were going to use liquid bombs. It would be very difficult to detect through security. A hydrogen approximaperoxide bo. Two recent events where this would be important in the first run. Richard, not muchcoverage with families, they create a room. Looks like theyre creating a room, a command center for families to go for comfort and wind up being questioned extensively for hours yesterday. Atensably as part of the ain investigation. What do you make of that process and what are the pitfalls . Well, first, you know, the airline and the governments and everybody involved says that the priority is the families, the care and comfort and making sure that they are okay, and that they are given what they need psychologically, physically, medically, even financially, but youre right at the same time. The investigation has to get to grips with whether theres anybody on those flight lists, may not be on a watch list, may not be on a terror list, but by questioning families you find out who these people were and whether they should be a person of interest or a person of suspicion. Its a very difficult balancing act, chris. Its extraordinarily difficult, because youre damned if you do and damned if you dont. But now i think that the plane has been located, or at least we know that it has crashed, i think youre going to see a strong shift and bias towards the sympathetic treatment of the families to make sure that theyre given the due concern and consideration that they deserve. Phil, this plane flew ten miles into egyptian airspace, therefore, egypt is in charge of this investigation. Does that give you pause . Absolutely. Do you think this will be different, phil, because egypt is in charge of the investigation . Will the timeline of the conclusion be longer . Will the transparency of this investigation be different . We think back to the metro jet explosion that took them a long time to acknowledge that this was a bomb . It did. I dont think egypt is in charge of the investigation. An intelligence official a lot of things youre doing regardless whether egyptians are acknowledging terrorism, an accident. For example, we talked about looking at flight manifest. The first indicator for 9 11. Known players . Bouncing manifests off databases, look the what isis and al qaeda guys are saying on the wires, the communications youre getting. Talking to source, syria, libya, is anybody talking about this . Everybody has access to all of that stuff . Not just egypt . Everybody. And whether they acknowledged something behind the scenes, people like me in my old position are doing a lot of work regardless what egyptians say or do. And the french component. Theyve been reaching out for months and months to get more coordination and plenty to plumb just on that side. And mary, your ntsb experience and people wanting to look at the plane, you need the plane. That is does make egypt more relevant because they will are high on the priority list where things get sent. How do you deal with that . Well, actually, youve made the very good point, because its going to be the plane, the black boxes and condition of the plane that will probably give the first real hard clues. Obviously, its important. I thought very important, to put terrorism on the table so you start those assets and that investigation rolling. Its much harder if you waited for the plane and then say, oh, it might be terrorism. By then, evidence, witnesses, potential suspects have long gone, but once they get the plane they can check for explosive residue, any human remains would have that, if theyre near the source of ignition or the explosive materiel. So thats going to be very important and there have been instances where, where the plane came down determined who was in charge of it, at least in charge of the civil air crash investigation. Its different on a criminal investigation, because literally any country can jump into that criminal investigation, and they are. Okay, panel. Stand by, if you would. Were going to call upon you throughout the program this morning. With this new information that they believe they found, debris from flight 804, well get into the particulars of exactly why they believe that and give you that information. We also want to talk about the latest developments in the election. There was a big day yesterday. 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Hillary clinton pulling no punches when it comes to assessing Donald Trumps ability to lead and protect this nation. We sat down with the Democratic Front runner and asked her about keeping america safe in the wake of the egyptair crash. Here it is. Well, chris, it does appear that it was an act of terrorism, exactly how, of course, the investigation will have to determine, but once again it shines a very bright light on the threats that we face from organized terror groups. Isis, of course, but then there are other networks of terrorists that have to be hunted down and defeated, and i think it reinforces the need for american leadership, for the kind of smart, steady leadership that only america can provide, and working with our allies, our partners in the middle east and elsewhere. How do you fight the perception we look weak . Trump was out hot and early on twitter when this happened saying, looks like another act of terror. More proof that were weak. We have to be strong. Theres a lot of hate and anger out there. Hes channeling the perception that a situation like this fuels which is, we are weak. They can take our planes when they want. The russian, the chinese, they can scare our military when they want and america does nothing. How do you answer that . Well, first of all, he says a lot of things. He says a lot of things that are provocative that actually make the important task of building this coalition, bringing everybody to the table and defeating terrorism more difficult. Why . Well, for example when he says, bar all muslims from coming to the United States, that sends a signal to majority muslim nations, many of whom we have to work with in order to defeat terrorism. Some of whom are already among our strongest allies in this fight. Do the americans that message resonates with, the attackers do seem to be muslim and coming in here and comey in charge of vetting them says he cant vet them. Trump calls for a temporary ban. It seems to make sense to people. Does it make sense to you . No. Not at all. Remember what hes called for and sort of break it up. He has said all muslims should be barred from coming into the United States. All muslims. Nobel prize winners, entertainers, sports stars, you name it. The new mayor from london. All muslims should be barred. Now when confronted with the new mayor from london who, as you know, is the first muslim elected to be marp of london, by the people of london, he says, well, ill make an exception for him. I mean, the whole approach is just incredibly provocative and wrongheaded, and look what hes done just in the last week. He has attacked our closest ally, great britain. He has praised the reckless dictator in north korea. He has said, we should pull out of nato. Our Strongest Military alliance. He has advocated for more countries having Nuclear Weapons. That kind of unpredictable, dangerous rhetoric and the policies that he throws out there for whatever hope he has to get people to respond to him make us less likely that were going to be as effective as we need to be Going Forward in assuages the concerns of people that we want to be working with us to deal with this threat. Let me ask you, do you think that donald trump is qualified to be president . No. I do not. And i think in this past week, whether its attacking great britain, praising the leader of north korea, a despotic dictator who has Nuclear Weapons, whether it is saying, pull out of nato, let other countries have Nuclear Weapons the kinds of positioning he is stating and the consequences of those positions, and even the consequences of his statements are not just offensive to people, they are potentially dangerous. How so . Well, as i mentioned politicians talk, madam secretary. They say things, and once they get in office, people believe nothing will be that different. Well, when you run for president of the United States, the entire world is listening and watching. So when you say were going to bar all muslims, you are sending a message to the muslim world and also sending a message to the terrorist, because we now do have evidence, we have seen how donald trump is being used to essentially to be a recruiter for more people to join the cause of terrorism. So i think if you go through many of his irresponsible, reckless, dangerous comments, its not just somebody saying something off the cuff. We all misstate things. We all may not be as careful in phrasing what we say. This is a pattern. Its a pattern that has gone on now for months, and its a pattern that adds up. In my opinion, having watched president s, having seen the incredibly difficult work that they do, and the decisions that they have to make, the thinking that goes in, sitting in the situation room do we go after bin laden or not j . I was part of that. Was it a clear, easy choice . Of course not. Did it have to be carefull