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CNNW New Day May 26, 2016

System wide weaknesses in electronic recordkeeping. The report was critical of former secretary of state Colin Powells email practices, but the audit said mrs. Clinton did not get approval to conduct business on private email or a private server. Politically yet another problem for the Clinton Administration putting her back on defense just a couple weeks away from the california primary and as we heard just a little while ago, the president of the United States really deflecting when asked about the email controversy and trying not to weigh in on it. Back to you. All right. Thank you. Now, Hillary Clinton wont debate Bernie Sanders, but it looks like donald trump will. He says hes ready to go toe to toe with sanders insisting they do it for charity just before the california primary. Cnn sarah murray is joining us live with this little twist in all the action. Good morning. Donald trump has got used to calling Bernie Sanders crazy bernie on the campaign trail, but it looks like that doesnt mean he wouldnt be willing to debate him at least as long as its on Donald Trumps terms. Donald trumps jumping at an invitation from Bernie Sanders to debate before californias june 7th primary if the price is right. Yes or no. He wants to know if he will debate him. Yes, i am. How much is he going to pay me . You would do it for a price . Yeah, we would have such high ratings and i think we should give take that money to give it to some worthy charity. Sonders responding on twitter saying game on. You know, over the years ive used aliases. I actually used the name baron and i end up used my son because i made a very good deal using that name. Many people in the real estate business do that. You use alias and you have to otherwise they find out its you and they charge you more money. Trump attracted more than last wednesday also joining protesters outside of the studio. Shame on you, jimmy kummell. And even more outside his rally in anaheim marking the second day of violent clashes between police and protesters at trump events. Inside, trump taking aim at Hillary Clinton over report from the state Department Inspector general that says her use of a private email server broke the rules. Inspector generals report, not good. And using the rally to unload on other political opponents including one of his most vocal adversaries, elizabeth warren. I was being hit by pocahontas, pocahontas, thats elizabeth warren. Reporter even attacking the ancestry warren once claimed. I call her goofy. She gets less done than anybody in the United States senate. She gets nothing done, nothing passed. Shes got a big mouth and thats about it. Reporter the insults are nothing new for trump, but his latest target new mexico latinas governor has puzzled some. Shes got to do a better job. Reporter Ohio Governor john kasich coming to martinezs defense wednesday tweeting shes exactly who our party and nominee should be lifting up and supporting, not tearing down. Reporter the other big story in the Trump Campaign is yet another staff shakeup. Donald trump is parting ways with his political director. Thats just six weeks after bringing him on board. All of this appears to be going back to this continuing power struggle between two of Donald Trumps top aides. So clearly, still a few wrinkles to iron out in the campaign structure. Back to you. Stay with us if you would because we want to discuss this with our panel. Cnns David Gregory and david, i want to start with you. Just to recap, lets look at the highlights, some of them, of the Inspector General report. Let me just read to you what weve put in here. Clinton should have surrendered all emails. It turns out she did not. Clinton did not comply with the state department policies. Two Staff Members voiced concern about email use and were told by bosses, nothing to see here, dont worry about it. Clinton and staff declined to be interviewed. How big of a deal, david, is this . Its a reasonably big deal, especially when you sort of dust away the specific allegations to unearth what was really going on, which was the whole email system was structured to defeat freedom of information requests. That is, these are not technical violations. The point of the plan was to make it harder to know what Hillary Clinton was emailing. And even to defeat legitimate inquiries from members of congress so thats news. And what she decided to keep from people, David Gregory is going to wind up being the best ammunition against her. What was deleted . There is nothing as tantalizing as the unknown in politics . How big is this going to play . Were talking about violations of state department rules, so its a different context of consequence. Exactly. I want to disclose that my wife Beth Wilkinson who is a lawyer represents several of Hillary Clintons aides in this matter including in the fbi inquiry so its important our viewers to know that. I think the political difficulty for Hillary Clinton here is how they have handled the release of these emails in a description of her email practices and the private server practice. That has been slow. That communication has been poorly handled in terms of sharing what the practices were and the actual emails themselves. I think the most difficult issue here is the fbi inquiry, the handling of classified information. I think thats what people in and outside of the government are most worried about. Thats the legal one. But the concern coming out of this report is you were told to hand over emails and you went through them yourself first, decided what you should turn over and deleted a bunch of them in a way they could not be recovered. I think thats going to play more than anything else. Because until we hear from the fbi, we dont, but what we heard here, dont you think thats a takeaway . And again, i think that is the problem, making decisions about what was personal and what wasnt off the personal server i think were bad decisions that were made by clinton and the rest of her team as well as the others that were released. So thats the political tricky part. There may be cover in this in the fact that this was systemic, other secretaries of state also criticized and that there was her email practice were known and what she has said repeated by was but it doesnt affect how bad the timing is. There are just also things in here that seem to contradict or at least belie some of the things that the Clinton Campaign has said. Number one, she did it strictly for convenience. Doesnt sound like that. Number two, that all that had been approved and cleared by the state department. Now these findings dont sound like that. What jumps out at you . I think the broader problem here is regardless of what the Clinton Campaign saz has said this isnt going to affect this campaign its clear this has hit her in her trustworthy numbers. People are going to keep looking back to the Inspector General report and saying look, the clintons dont play by the rules, you cant trust them and thats the kind of thing that has been damaging to her numbers with the American Public and not the kind of thing thats going to be helpful as she appears to be in this potentially tight election with donald trump. They havent really crafted a narrative around this, that the American Public believes yet. I do want to point out one other thing. I think what the clinton team would argue about what david said is that there was no organized effort to deny access via foya, that there may be lapses in the email practices and this is the kind of thing thats going to be sorted out through other inquiries but is still separate from the bigger matters which has to do with the fbi probe. In the end the defense is going to come down to this, you just have to trust us, we didnt mean anything bad and we deleted nothing important. And when you are dealing with a candidate who is not trusted, this will her defense ultimately now will resolve to her own word unless the missing emails are reconstituted. Her own word is not a bond with the American Public. So is the only saving grace at this point, you know, whether you want to use the word contradicts, belies, proves to be wrong, they all wind up in the same place which is you did something that was sneaky, you got caught and you tried to hide it and you got caught again. Is this all about whether or not there are any indictments and at the end of the day thats their only fall back . When im talking about David Gregory i use the word handsome. As do we all. I dont think the absence of indictments will make will go will settle the issue because it will remain a cloud and an accumulating cloud. Behind all of the argument of the headlines, two big things have happened in the past month. The first is the Republican Party has really and truly consolidated around donald trump. Theres not going to be a third party. 85 of republicans and rising are accepting his candidacy. And the second thing that has happened has been this plunge in support for Hillary Clinton among men especially white men and most alarmingly for her College Educated white men. She always had trouble with noncollege whites but she dropped 14 points among College Educated men and she was counting on the deflection of the most affluent parts of the coalition to put her over the top. Things like this email server which go to that core problem is can she be trusted . Is she an honest person . And that is going to be especially damaging since her best weapon against donald trump is the suggestion that he is unreliable and unsteady. Lets move on to donald trump. He also is making news as per usual. He seems to be in this fight with the new mexico Governor Martinez. He was appearing in new mexico and went after the governor and said he would do a better job and maybe he should run for governor of the state. And she put oa statement that his statement was wrong now. John kasich has tweeted a couple of things to support Governor Martinez. He says shes an outstanding governor. Shes exactly who our party and nominee should be lifting up and supporting, not tearing down. David gregory, what is the strategy here of donald trump going after a female hispanic successful republican governor . Theres no strategy. I mean, this is trump being trump. This is trump reacting personally, being aggravated, having this, you know, this sense of pique that she didnt show up and was mildly critical of him and so he lashes out at her not caring about the consequences. This is donald trump having a post period of capturing, you know, becoming the presumptive nominee and making a pivot to the general election and snapping back to his gut performance which has gotten him pretty far. It got him the nomination of the Republican Party. But there is nothing that is served by attacking Susanne Martinez of new mexico. It does nothing but harm him it makes him feel better though. He does it because it makes him feel better. He wouldnt show up at the event and he says i think thats about her not getting on board, not coming to the event. Thats what it is. You didnt come to my party, i think you stink. Thats what he said. I get it. Thats what im saying. This is theres no reason to intellectualize this. This is trump being trump, but theres an absence of any, you know, Strategic Thinking about how you put all of this together. He makes pronouncements, hispanics love me, i love hispanics, theyre going to come my way. You have a sitting governor with the organizing potential that she has in that state and beyond and he seems to be casting her aside. All right. Thank you very much for all of those insights. We will speak to you shortly. We want to get to anna. President obama giving a global indictment of donald trump telling the g7 summit that World Leaders are rattled by trump. Our panel will discuss this next. Mobility is very important to me. Thats why i use e trade mobile. Its on all my mobile devices, so it suits my mobile lifestyle. And it keeps my investments fully mobile. Even when im on the move. Sign up at etrade. Com and get up to six hundred dollars. Im tired. Or, im hungry. What if your body said Something Else might be wrong . 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But theyre rattled by him. And for good reason. The message and the meaning. Lets discuss. David gregory, david from, sarah murray. Lets start with you. Was this something that we knew was coming or was this a little bit of a surprise . I think president obama has given this indication before that some World Leaders look at the things that donald trump is saying and they arent sure how much of it he believes, how much he would enact if he were president and if they are concerned about some of the things he said. He said he would sit down with the north korean leader. He has insulted some of our closest allies and i think when you look at the race tightening we shouldnt be surprised to see that World Leaders are asking president obama some questions about how he thinks this would all play out but it is sort of stark to see president obama on this foreign trip out there talking about the potential impact of donald trump as president. But this was typically understated obama. World leaders are surprised. Theyre unsettled. He didnt say theyre freaking out as weve heard from some people who have come on our set who have been overseas. Is he Strong Enough on this . Its understated because of the audience hes appealing to. President obama remembers that in 2008 because of iraq and the financial crisis he was able to pull many Business Leaders and many of the sort of substantial people in the clinicoligs away from the republican ranks to the Democratic Party. In 2012 president obama won with a much narrower coalition. A lot of those former republicans returned to vote for mitt romney. Hes trying to revive the 2008 coalition and you dont talk to those people in inflammatory ways. You talk to them in sober and settled ways to make the party look sober and settled. Hillary clintons problem is she is much less appealing than obama was for a number of reasons. Youre very good at telescoping when something happens in the moment, what is it going to mean down the road. This is one of those moments. You have the president of the United States around all of these World Leaders of the g7 and hes talking about the key issue for trump which is temporament and how are you perceived and what kind of risks do you present for the United States and stability. What could this mean . Well, you know, barack obama is in a unique position. Hes the only president of the United States and hes one of very few that are actually still alive current and former so he brings sobriety to that and all that the office entails because i do think that when obama is speaking to a particular audience, it includes people who think about the white house and think about the presidency, they close their eyes and they say, can i imagine this person being the president . Whenever they think of

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