As recently as last week indicating attempts to get into their private email accounts. Officials say that despite russian expectations of better relations with the Incoming Trump administration, alisyn, they expect the russian hacking activity will continue largely unabated. Thank you for that reporting. Well get into it more as the program progresses. How will president obama fight back . First, lets bring in Suzanne Malveaux live at the white house. What do you expect, suzan . President obama is vowing retailiation for the hacking and influencing the u. S. President ial election. Now, president obama says in an npr interview it was back in september. A g20 summit. A sideline meeting he had with russian president Vladimir Putin confronting him about this cybersecurity threat. It was in october. Intelligence analysts publicly named russia as involved as responsible for the hacking and vowed a proportional response. Take a listen. I think there is no doubt that when any Foreign Government tries to impact the integrity of our elections that we need to take action. And we will. At a time and place of our own choosing. Some of it may be explicit and publicized. Some of it may not be. But mr. Putin is well aware of my feelings about this because i spoke to him directly about it. So, the president does not give a timetable or the specifics, but there are a number of options that he could take. He could privately and publicly shame russia, which he has already done. He can also impose additional sanctions and perhaps own a cybersecurity threat from the United States point of view. But no details at this point. There is a press conference around 2 15 or so. Hes going to be getting a lot of questions about this later. Chris . Suzanne, thank you very much. Part of the danger here is that National Security is getting lost in politics. The president elect, donald trump, has denied putins hand in this situation. A sign of the growing rift between the president elect and the Obama Administration over the role of the kremlin and putin in our election. Cnn sara murray has the latest on that story. Sara in. Good morning, chris. That warm, fuzzy feeling we may have had for a few minutes when the Obama Administration wanted to play nicely with the Trump Administration appears to be evaporating a little bit and donald trump is playing a hand in that, as well. Going after White House Press secretary. A week of russia revelations and Donald Trumps denials creating a rift between incoming and outgoing administration. This foolish guy josh earnest. Reporter the president elect taking shots at president obamas press secretary. He is so bad the way he delivers their message. He can deliver a positive message and it sounds bad. He could say, ladies and gentlemen, today we have totally defeated isis and it wouldnt sound good. Reporter lashing out after the white house sharply criticized trumps continued dismissal of intelligence about moscows election meddling. Mr. Trump, obviously knew that russia engaged in malicious cyberactivity that was helping him and hurting secretary clintons campaign. The president is very positive, but hes not positive. And i mean maybe hes getting his orders from somebody else. Reporter russia putting a strain on the roller coaster relationship between trump and obama. The two attempting a show of unity for a smooth transition after a bitter campaign. Now, tensions rising between the camps. Fueled in part by trumps tweet accusing the white house of only complaining about the hacking after Hillary Clinton lost. But, in fact, in early october, the Intelligence Community was saying they were confident russia was behind the dnc hack. Clinton herself addressing the hacking for the First Time Since the election. Telling donors that russian president Vladimir Putins grudge against her prompted the attack against the dnc. This as clintons former Campaign Chair john podesta penned a scathing rebuke of the fbis handling of the hack. Writing in the Washington Post when the fbi discovered the russian attack in september 2015, it failed to send even a single agent to warn Senior Democratic National Committee officials. Adding something is deeply broken at the bureau. Podestas criticism echoed by Outgoing Senate minority leader harry reid. I think its about time that comey acknowledged publicly that hes done nothing except interfering with the election. Hes become such a partisan, that he should become the new chair of the rnc. Reporter still efforts to put politics aside and assure there is a smooth transition of power. Reince priebus who is the incoming chief of staff is meeting today at the white house with dennis mcdonough, the outgoing chief of staff for president obama. As well as rahm emanuel, the mayor who was president obamas First White House chief of staff. Back to you, alisyn and chris. Thank you for that reporting. We want to discuss all of this with our Political Panel lets bring in Washington Post columnist josh rogan and Monica Langley and cnn counterterrorism analyst and phil mudd. Great to have all of you here for this very important conversation. Josh, so, we have heard now for weeks, maybe months, that russia was somehow involved in hacking into the dncs computers and somehow possibly thereby swaying the election. What is new here . What is the bombshell today . What weve got now is more official confirmation that went to thihoost leve highest level russian government. Not as if russian government hackers are freelancing. This can only be done with top level political cover and getting more intelligence and more sources among the Intelligence Community and the White House Press secretary is going on. Were moving past the point of the discussion where did the russians do it and moving to, okay, what do we do about it . Thats really the more important part of the discussion. Except, josh, that assumes we can define we as everybody. Lets bounce that concept to you, phil mudd, because the nature of how this is being communicated does not necessarily blow someone out of the water who wants to deny it. We dont know where they got it or how they got it. You know, i know the Intelligence Community has to keep methods and sourcing somewhat under wraps, but in a situation like this that has become politicized. The president elect says, i dont buy it. Theyve been wrong before. How do they know . And the answer is forthcoming arent the most clarifying. I agree, chris. Weve got problems on both sides. Problems on the intelligence side and problems on the political side. When you say problems, phil, just to be clear. Are you saying you dont trust the intel or about messaging that youre talking about . Both. I think were losing the distinction between what we know and what we think. We know someone stole information that was released on wi wikleaks. We know the fingerprints in the Digital World because weve been following them for years. We translate that into saying because we know they stole stuff, we also know who stole it and why. That distinction between what happened and what the intent was behind what happened is critical and thats being lost today. Before i close as a loyal american, let me tell you, im disgusted by the white house and disgusted by the incoming president. This is nonpartisan. Weve got to figure out what to do with russia and the Digital World. In the Iran Nuclear Program and syria. We have two 6 year olds figuring out who can higher on a tree about what happened with the intel when the real question among professionals is how we deal with the main adversary after they disrupt an election. I had it with these guys. My message is to the white house, shut up to the white house. Shut up to the trump office and stop trying to figure out what happened six months ago. Phil, before we let you go on that note have a heart attack. What is president obama to do . Well, first of all, the conversation is about how we retaliated against the russians have to be discussed with the trump people. We have 30 days left. The conversation about russia cant be isolated to deal with the hacks. As soon as you talk to the russians publicly and accuse them, theres a potential even that could be counterproductive. Everybody is talking about sa sanctions as if that might not allow putin to tell the russian people, look, its me against the americans. Im going to win this one. His Approval Rating is 80 . Humiliating him in public might not work. I think the conversation has to be broader. What is the new approach to russia that includes conversations about iran and syria and can the Obama Administration do something to put the ball on the tee for the Trump Campaign . They have to Work Together and right now its like two kids in a sand box. Disgusting. Phil makes a lot of good points. He was in the business. He knows the intel world. But this has been politicized. Totally. So, now, because of these implications founded and unfounded about what the impact on the election result this hacking can be traced to, president elect donald trump, his team, dug in and said we must deny the premise because of the potential conclusion. Now you have National Security being used as a political football. Thats bright. That was the clearest statement i heard this week about what we know versus what they think. Thats exactly why donald trump and his team keep swatting this down. Because theyre saying whatever we do know has now become convoluted into what theyre accusing the Trump Campaign of. That they won this election only because of the russian hacks. Thats why theyre continuing to say we dont, were not, you know, into this. I talked to a top trump adviser yesterday. I said, how much are you into this . Some people are saying the campaign is concerned. Some in the campaigns think trump is concerned about the russian hack. This Senior Adviser said donald trump is spending zero time on the russian hack. He is more concerned with getting the best cabinet possible and bringing back good paying american jobs. I mean, they believe that this is a total effort to delegitimize his election victory. And, so, they are really having nuthing nothing to do with it right now. Go ahead. We have to say to ourselves. Okay, the russians did it and trump won. Both of those things can be true and we have to separate them. And then we have to figure out both of those things are true, by inouye. Exactly. If you believe the Intel Committee and the political reality. They only leaked on one side, okay. So, you can draw from that what conclusions you will. Again, it doesnt matter because if theyre doing this kind of stuff, we have to respond to it and both administrations have to be onboard with that. It doesnt seem like the Trump Administration is going to do that. Something the Obama Administration can do that the Trump Administration cant reverse. They can release what information nay have on putin. They can release his financial dealings and what hes been up to. What does that do . The Trump Administration cant reverse that and then that will be a retaliation that will have an effect that will show the russians that we mean business and they cant do this stuff and get away with it. Even if the Trump Administration doesnt want to take this seriously, we will have at least responded and put up some sort of fight and some sort of deterrence against this attack going forward. What this shows is that the obama and trump relations that started off on a good note is quickly deteriorating. Right . Theres already you saw donald trump last night at his rally attack josh earnest and by implication, also, obama, the president. We know that this is what donald trump does. I covered his campaign. You know, it was a campaign by counterpunch. So, josh earnest punched him and he counterpunched josh earnest. Donald trump has to switch to governing. This about american National Security and not about his political situation. Okay, for the next few days or whatever we can have this debate, but at some point the Trump Administration is going to have to stop talking about what is about donald trump. The irony is trump comes at anyone who comes at him except putin, who may as well just have attacked his own country. You know why he has not come against putin, because putin has not attacked him yet. The stewardship of the country and you just had the exactly. Panel, we have so much more to talk about. Stick around, please. President elect donald trump is not planning to divest entirely from his Business Empire when he enters office. Now, is this fair or is this unfair . Were going to also get into why democrats are trying to force his hand on this issue. How can he satisfy the protection against conflict of interest . Is it possible . Good answers ahead. The best simple veggie dish ever . Heart healthy california walnuts. The best simple dinner ever . Heart healthy california walnuts. Great tasting, heart healthy california walnuts. So simple. Get the recipes at walnuts. Org. Incr. Think it wouldotection in a pwork, but it does. Dnt. Its called always discreet for bladder leaks, the super. Absorbent core turns liquid to gel. I know im wearing it but no one else will. Always discreet for bladder leaks. All right. The president elect is tweeting this morning. It seems he is monitoring the show, if so, good morning, mr. President elect. We hope that youre getting some good information out of our coverage. He is tweeting about this cyberattack issue. And he has tweeted this. Are we talking about the same cyberattack where it revealed head of the dnc illegally gave hillary questions to the debate . I think the short answer to that, lets bring them back, yes, we are talking about these hacks that went on. That is talking about donna brazille. She gave a question not to a deba debate, it was a town hall. Cnn figured out what has happened and she is gone and it was wrong. Now lets talk about why president elect was focusing on the substance and not the sourcing of the hacks. What does this say to you, josh rogan . He is trying to distract us from the real issue. The facts that the russians hacked our political system. He deserves that respect and that confirmation. What was revealed in the hacking is one thing. We already know that. Now we have to figure out how to make sure this doesnt happen, again. What will happen next time . What if the russians change their mind and hack the republicans and hack donald trump. All of a sudden the tables will be turned. We have to put aside the politics here and focus on the policy, all right. Its a National Security issue that applies to all of us. We need to sort of stop sort of distracting by talking about what was in the hack and talk about what we are going to do about it and prevent it from ever happening again. Monica, lets move on and talk about what donald trump is going to do with all his Business Empire once he enters the white house. You have some great original reporting about why was the press conference yesterday canceled when they were going to spell out the plan. What have you learned about the plan moving forward . I think theyre still working out the details. As donald trump said yesterday, he believes its simple from his point of view is that as the president , theres no law specifically that deals with whether he could run his business at the same time he runs the country. And what people say is, yes, he could do both. However, as he stated, he wants the two older sons who have been part of Trump Organization for years to run the business. All the controversy has been whether those, the sons and the properties, those, will pose a conflict of interest. So, what everybody has said, the answer to that is devest your properties. Sell them before you become president. What my reporting is what people are telling me is, no, he cant sell these properties. He doesnt even want to sell these properties. They have been in his family for a long time. He doesnt want to, but he can. But he doesnt want to. It would be very difficult for a couple reasons. One, if you suddenly put all these properties on the market. Iconic real estate all over the world. Hotels, apartment buildings, office buildings, et cetera, golf courses. Youll sell them at a fire sale and go for so little theyre under time pressure to sell. Which is not fair. Or theyre going to go at high prices because Foreign Government or sovereign wealth funds will say, oh, this is a way to curry favor with the Trump Administration and ill pay a high price. I talked to someone high up in the Trump Administration, we cant win if we had to liquidate these properties. A lot of the businesses arent bricks and mortar, theyre licensing deals where his name is on something. That is something that doesnt have a whole lot of value if hes not attached to it. If theyre at an impasse, then what . Theyre thinking about having donald trump still be