From six majority muslim countries, but one of the most interesting takeaways is the president this morning seems to be complaining about the Administration Policy of donald trump, and executive orders that, in fact, hes had to sign off on. Lets begin with the first tweet. People, the lawyers and the courts can call it whatever they want, but im calling it what we need and what it is, a travel ban this despite many attempts by members of his staff to label it something other than a travel ban. Then the second tweet the Justice Department should have stayed with the original travel ban, not the watered down politically correct version they submitted to sc, meaning supreme court. Thats a reference to the first travel ban executive order which could have been construed and was actually shut down by the courts because it appeared to be a pretextual and discriminatory, especially since the president of the United States, as a candidate, had called for a complete and total shutdown of muslims entering the country. The third tweet, the Justice Department should ask for an expedited hearing of the watered down travel version. In any event we are in extreme vetting people coming into the country in order to keep our country safe. The reaction from administration aides i spoke with kelleyanne c kel kellyanne conway, i asked her about the tweets this morning, she said why do you obsess so much about the president s tweets as opposed to what he did . I said to her well these are tweets by the president of the United States, to which she gave me no answer. Alisyn, chris, back to you. Joe, these are statements, statements of policy. We can call them tweets which i think somehow minimizes it, but this is how he really feels. So thank you, joe, for all of that communication that youve had and you shared with us. We will be speaking with one of the president s advisers momentarily but to our other top story. Britains Prime Minister says officials know the identities of the three london terrorists two killed seven people and injured 48 others. Clarissa ward is live in london. What have you learned . Reporter hi, alisyn. Behind me is Borough Market where the attack took place. There is still a Large Police Presence here, weve seen Forensics Team going in. They know the identity of the three attackers, theyre not sharing it with the public yet and we have been continuing with raids, searching four different homes, arresting 11 different people as they tried to determine for sure and conclusively that the network does not stretch any further. Number of raids and arrests as isis claims responsibility for saturdays attack. Although no evidence currently exists to back up the claim. Neighbors at this raided apartment complex stunned, after recognizing one of the dead attackers, who they describe as a quiet family man. The man i know he was a wonderful guy. Reporter one woman, however, did have concerns which she claims she brought to police. All of a sudden we saw this gentleman, individual, speaking to the kids about islam, and showed them how to pray. Reporter locals showing cnn the mosque they believe one of the attackers attended. Authorities have not confirmed his identity. London police say the three attackers began their killing spree using a rented white van that sped across London Bridge around 10 00 p. M. Saturday night, plowing into pedestrians. It knocked down several people, came within about 20 yards of where i was. It knocked somebody nearly 20 feet in the air. Reporter emergency vehicles rushed to the scene, as Police Responded to more violence at Borough Market, where the attackers had driven, before getting out of the van with knives and randomly attacking people inside restaurants and cafes. There were these three men standing there, one with a machete, one saying theyre stabbing everyone. You only stepped outside the pub for a second, i man ran up, said this is for my family for islam, looked him straight in the face and stabbed him. Reporter these patrons hunkering down fearing for their lives, as others fled the scene. People were literally running away as fast as they possibly could. Reporter eight officers shot 50 rounds, taking down all three attackers, one bystander was shot in a hail of bullets. There is, to be frank, far too much tolerance of extremism in our country. Reporter britains Prime Minister condemning the terror attacks vowing a sweeping review of the countrys antiterror laws. Enough is enough. Reporter a lot of people here are hailing the heroism of britains police. One policeman who was unarmed except for his police baton actually tried to take on the attackers. Three police men were wounded and important from the time it took the moment the attack began and the moment they were dead was eight minutes. This was a rapid response, part of the reason they were so quick to use lethal force, the men were wearing fake suicide vests. Police were not to know at that time the vests were fake. 50 rounds were used and eight minutes is impressive. Claris clarissa, thank you very much. Joining me is the Deputy Assistant to President Trump sebastian gorka. Good to have you. Thanks for having me. Sean spicer, everybody else around the president scolded the media, stop calling it a travel ban this executive order. Thats not what it is, you fake news people. Then President Trump says what weve known all along, sebastian, it is a ban. He likes that its a ban. He likes the original ban and thats what he wants everybody to know. Why play the games . There are no games. The president can call it whatever he likes because he has the Constitutional Authority to control whoever comes into this country, chris. Thats his job. The constitution precedence and Administrative Law give him that right. If he wants to call it a ban hes the president , hes the chief officer of this administration and he has every right to do that. Why wasnt the administration honest about it all along . Why have sean spicer and you and everybody else say its not a ban. Its just vetting. And youre trying to make it sound like something it isnt. The president just proved what the truth is. All this has been spin, and a distraction. Why . Im not going to fall into the trap of us being the spinmeisters when cnn is one of the greatest purveyors of fake news. The fact is its been the same since the beginning from the first e. O. To the second e. O. , its one thing, chris, its about protecting americans, and if anybody out there has a problem with us trying to keep americans safe they need to look in the mirror and ask themselves whether they are the purveyors of fake news. Sebastian, it has always been about who it targets, how it targets and whether or not that is what will keep us safe, and you guys played games about it and said its not a ban. I could play you sean spicer right now, but you know its true. And then the president decides to be honest about it this morning. That is spin. You are the purveyor of spin, because that was your message, that it wasnt a ban, and it was untrue. Thats why im asking you. So i guess president obama was also a purveyor of spin with that calculation, because the executive order is based upon the obama house analysis of the seven nations of greatest concern for immigration to america. Is he a purveyor of spin, chris . Well thats an interesting question, and while i can shall. It is, isnt it . I like that you must get away from President Trump and policy as quickly as possible. Not at all. And blame obama for everything. Ill talk about it for the next hour. Im sure you would, and eloquently so. However, the facts are not your friend here, because that move with executive order from the Obama Administration was about travel to those countries. It was about whos coming in and out and why. Your order is about muslims. About targeting muslims and keeping them out. Chris, lets stop that. Allowing those who are not muslim a carveout to come in. Lets do a little 101, a little trivial pursuit. What is the most populous muslim nation in the world, chris . You tell me. These are your answers. No, you tell me the biggest muslim nation in the world. Massive population. I want to give you the opportunity. You dont know. Assume i know nothing. Go ahead. Its indonesia. I will assume you know nothing. What is the largest arab nation in the world . You tell me. Egypt. So if this had anything, and i mean anything, to do with race or religion, why would those two nations, the most populous muslim nations, and the most populous arab nation not be included on the executive order . Explain that logic to me, because this is where your spin fails. This is where the fake news propaganda collapses, because if we had some dark dread ulterior motive those are the first two nations you would put on the list, not the seven nation lgs the Obama White House identified as greatest concern. Please answer that question. I will, i will. First, what the Obama Administration did was target travel from places that were known as hubs for terror, and thats different than what youre doing, because youre targeting national. You could add saudi arabia. 15 of the herks jackers came from there. Theyre not on your list. Theres speculation as to why. Instead of looking who you didnt involve, you must look for legal and policy purposes at who you did involve, and those countries are all muslim majority. You did a carveout for nonmuslims, and thats why it got struck down originally, allegedly recognized as being overreaching by people like you, which is why you drafted a second one, which the president said he authorized and approved of, and is now before the courts for scrutiny. So the intention is clear, that you wanted to target muslims from those places. I see that youre a little slow to want to own that. No, im still waiting for you to answer why would you not include indonesia and egypt, if it was what you said it was about, those would be the logical nations to include but we didnt. How do you explain that, chris . I explain it by you going with the original model to make it easier to pass because you were mimicking what obama did and therefore masking your true intention was to not make it about travel, make it about muslims and as you well know not just in your own rhetoric but the president , he has said time and again that he thinks theres a problem with islam. And that he thinks that the muslims may have a problem with us. As you know, with what were seeing in the uk right now, attachment to the community of muslims is so important and the concern is that a move like this, trumpeted by the president in the midst of crisis in the uk sends an ugly message to our Muslim Community here in the United States. Well, unfortunately, what youve just spun is classic fake news. What is fake about what i said . What is factually inaccurate . There are no facts there. You are saying we used an obama era analysis to quote you used his executive order. To cloak our intention. Can you give me one piece of evidence for that. Yes, the language. You picked the same countries, was that a coincidence . No, because thats what government does. Government looks at analysis. You picked the same countries. Thats a fact. What is your proof we had another intent . Give me a piece of proof. The language from the president. Thats not proof. The same thing District Courts seized upon was that he clearly wants to keep muslims out of the country, right or wrong, the people voted for donald trump in part on that issue, but his intention is clear. So that must be the intention of the obama order as well. To keep muslims out of the nation. The language is different which is why it wasnt challenged in the courts the same way. It was about who is traveling in and out of there, and the potential for those governments to let or even harbor bad guys. You ar selective choice of facts is telling. We did this with iraq under the Obama Administration and the administration didnt tell anybody. Why is that . I dont know exactly about their not telling people. What i do know is that the United States administration worked very closely with iraq in particular to build up its vetting capabilities, because of the unique nature of the threat there, and thats why there was the concern, when you guys included iraq, and then you took iraq off the list, which then raised questions about security intentions because obviously you have more concerns of people coming out of iraq than the other countries. Lets get beyond your spin, lets talk about facts. I dont think its spin. I think its a little bit of logic that youre having a tough time dealing with in light of what the president said this morning. Were not hooer to discuss your spin. Were here to protect americans. Answer me this question. When the last administration forbade the state department looking at the public postings on the facebook pages of foreigners applying for visas to america, do you think that was a good move . I think that yes or no . Its not for me to opine on an administrations youre opining the whole time about the trump administration, chris. Be honest. Youre opining the whole time. Your show he is opining. I am not opining. Im asking you questions and pushing back on your own arguments and youre good at making them. The word forbade that you use is not the one that i would have use, and when you look its a good idea not to look at facebook postings. It wasnt just facebook postings. It was instant messaging which isnt public so it would have been going into her private communications. Dont change the subject. No thats a fact. Im adding a fact to what youre putting out there. But youre not answering the question. They were forbidden from looking at public facebook postings, is that smart protecting americans . Privacy is an evolving dialogue. Facebook is not private, chris. Facebook is not private. You know that, right . Twitter is not private. Instant messaging im not talking about instant messaging. Thats where the information was contained with the white house. Im asking about the regulations. Its easy to overtalk when you dont like the answer. You wont answer the question, chris, its telling. I just did. No you changed, you pivoted to messaging. Im including the salient fact for you, sebastian. But youre not answering my question. Its not about her Facebook Public posts. Its the private instant messaging. Thats a good policy. Its a good debate to have about policy as is banning mu y muslims. Its fascinating that you will go to any degree not to criticize the last administration but will opine in conspiracies it shall it. I dont think thats true at ul. Thats why your viewing figures are in attack. Were up 100 year over year. Dont let the facts get in your way. Youre good at avoiding them. Unless youre being mandatory in every airport in america youre in a tank, chris. Were up 100 so what you said is foolishly wrong. Not just abuse of fact but eight silly with its own logic. Its the cnn has benefited so greatly from the current dialogue and the demand for fact and testing power that it is demonstrable by any metric you want to use. Chris, youre just comedy now. Its just comedy. Lets put this on. You may think its getting two viewers is not a 100 increase. Thats not the numbers. Those arent the numbers involved. Chris youre playing games. Youre playing games. Good try. Good try. I give you points for that, sebastian. Next time good spin, chris. But this isnt about cnns success, because thats obvious. Its about relevance. How the president is doing and whats relevant are the tweets that the president put out this morning where he said what we believed all along and you guys have denied, which this is a ban and he put his arms around the original order which obviously targeted Muslim Populations, which is a fine political argument to make and let people judge it. We saw it play out in his response to london. Are you okay with him going at the london mayor in a time of crisis . I just find it really disappointing that not ohm did you have one of your staff on before me for several minutes as the president tweets now were eight minutes into this interview and youre doing it again. Lets talk about policy. That is the policy. His tweets are the policy. They are statements from the president of the United States. They are not policy. Its not policy. Of course it is. Its social media, chris, its social media. You know the difference, right . Its his words, his thoughts. Its not policy, its not an executive order. Its social media. Please understand the difference. I think that you need to have a little bit of an understanding here. The president says this is what i want. Youre a journalist. What do you think we shouldnt listen to what the president says . You shouldnt obsess about it for now 12 minutes, chris. If he says this is what i want to do on this particular issue, why would i say well, until he says it, i guess what, to my face that im not going to Pay Attention . Youre talking about one tweet, chris, should we spend the whole program on it . To call it a tweet is to run away from significance. It is a tweet. What else is it, a bowl of petunias . If i wrote you a letter saying one thing or i said it to your face, whats the difference . This is National Security. Thats right. Maybe you shouldnt tweet about it but he chooses to. To judge National Security in a time of things like the manchester and London Attacks based upon social media statements is irresponsible of you, chris. Irresponsible of me to report. Of you. What the president of the United States says . Its obsessed for now 20 minutes, yes, youre obsessing. I want to get this straight. I want to make sure everyone understands your point. The president of the United States decides multiple times to tell the entire world what he wants our tr