President trump is ending the daca program. We have the Global Resources of cnn covering it all. Lets begin with cnns will ripley in north korea where hes been more than a z do en times. Hes live in tokyo with the latest news out of the region. Hi, dave, were hearing that a week that already began with a bang can get more tense. There are reports sought of south korea that theyre observing what are called continuous signs that the regime led by kim jong un will be led by another Ballistic Missile. It could be the find they launched over hokkaido last week, or it could be an intercontinental ball lays tick missile. South korea believes the trajectory could be the pacific ocean, which includes the u. S. South territory of guam. It would travel a further distance as opposed to other tests where the missiles have gone up to a very High Altitude but havent traveled that far of a distance, often coming down in the waters off of japan. This would not be entirely a surprise. North korea has been saying for weeks they are preparing to launch more missiles from the pacific. They say last weeks launch was aimed at containing guam, home to the air force base and more than 160,000 u. S. Citizens. If they follow through, it would be after releasing images of their Supreme Leader standing in front of a miniaturized Nuclear Warhead that they say could go on a Ballistic Missile. Planning to launch possibly by saturday, a major holiday, the day the country was founded. For them to do this perhaps less than a week of a their large of the nuclear test to date would take depositions to a whole new level. South korea, meanwhile, showing its military might by simulating an attack on the norths main nuclear test site. Cnn is live in seoul with all the breaking details. Reporter we know theres been a series of live fire drills by south korea. Fighter jets have been involved, surface to surface Ballistic Missiles. Its all been very visual, sending a strong message to north korea. The simulation was they were attacking north koreas assets off the east coast of the korean peninsula. Also hearing from the French Ministry this was showing a willingness to target the leadership. Its a very thinly veiled threat to kim jong un saying this is the capability we have to take out the leadership if need be. Also hearing from the south korea side they want the u. S. To set more strategic assets, military strategic assets to the region like Aircraft Carriers, bombers, we could be seeing that within the next few days if south korea gets its way. It certainly wants more shows of force with the u. S. , basically to show the u. S. South Korean Alliance is strong. When you think about whats happening in the political arena, u. S. Trump saying that south korea is talking about appeasement with north korea. Thats not gone down well here. Not going down well at all. President trump and his National Security closely watching the situation. Defense secretary james mattis delivering a stern warning to north korea from the white house. Cnns Barbara Starr live at the pentagon with the latest. Barbara, good morning to you. The defense secretary very stern, very rarely speaks out directly to the cameras. What do you make of his reaction . Good morning, dave. The question now still unanswered. What would the Trump Administration do next . No wrd yet if they will, in fact, send an Aircraft Carrier of bomber aircraft as the South Koreans suggesting. In fact, President Trump continuing to try to pull the lever of trade to pressure other countries to move against north korea. The president tweeting, and i quote, the United States is considering, in addition to other options, stopping all trade with any country doing business with north korea. That would have fairly significant global implications. As you say, defense secretary mattis coming out of the white house, reaffirming the ironclad commitment to south korea, if they are nervous about it, also very much on the military page. Have a listen. Any threat to the United States or its territory including guam or our allies will be met with a massive military response, a response both effective and overwhelming. We are not looking the the total annihilation of a country, namely north korea, but as i said, we have many options to do so. Annihilation not of north korea, per se, but perhaps kim jong un and his regime. The u. S. Position is if kim were to attack the u. S. , would retaliate. Barbara, thank you for your reporting. Lets bring back now will ripley. Joining us is gordon chang, the author of nuclear showdown, north korea takes on the world and columnist of the daley beast and mark lang from the seventh arm. Great to have all of you experts with us. Gordon chang, lets talk about real options today. What are the real options . Theres way too much war talk. I think how do we use our economy and Financial System to deny kim from building missiles and nukes. How do we do that . I think we talk about embargo. The last sanctions adopted on august 5 only restrict a small portion, in this case a third of north koreas legal exports, and it doesnt even take into account the stuff that north korea is sending to iran which is about 2 billion, 3 billing eun a year. What we need to do is go after the oil and 5u8 the other things that keeps kim in business. If the wrats is going to show political will, and i think essentially the chinese and the nort North Koreans are going to step back and would be more amenable to talking. Yes cannot allow the chinese to, for instance, use our Financial System to launder money for the North Koreans. We cant allow them to send material to the North Koreans or supply the most recent Ballistic Missile material. We need to use our economy rather than the military to serve this. We dont want historys last war. What can we do to pressure china into cutting off all trade with north korea, in particular fuel . Well, the United States could impose or continue to impose its own sanctions on chinese companies, banks, for example, cutting them off from access to Global Financial markets which would infuriate beijing. The United States is also continuing to put on the table this potential military option which makes beijing very uncomfortable. There have been editorials in the global times saying if the United States were to launch a preemptive strike that china should actually step in. So the rhett writ heating up. If beijing were to think that the u. S. Were serious about a military option, would they be more willing to go beyond what theyve done over the last many years that has proven to be very ineffective. I was in north korea last week, we see whine these cars, chinese products on store shelves. China has a lot of leverage, but the u. S. Has leverage over china given the hundreds of billions in trade. You saw the tweet from President Trump, by the way, saying the u. S. Might consider cutting off trade from all countries that trade with north korea. Obviously that was a thinly failed threat there. Will, youve taken to north korea about this numerous times. Is there anything that will stop their Nuclear Program . They say absolutely not. Ive asked the specific question, even if north korea were to be cut off completely by china. If china were to stop trading, stop dealing with north korea economically, north korea says they would survive. They point to the great famine of the 1990s when there were hundreds of thousands of people dying of starvation, yet the regime, despite predictions it would collapse, it remained firmly in control. They were still developing and launching missiles and conducted the First Nuclear test after coming out of that famine back in 2006. Clearly north korea feels theyre more selfsufficient than they were back then. The famine was the result of the economic mismanagement, the collapse of the soviet union as well as a series of natural disasters. They say theyve been through bad times before and theyll do it again. They say the last thing theyll cut is their Nuclear Program. General hurt ling, mattis says were not talking about total annihilation but were capable of it. And what Barbara Starr ended on, where she said the idea isnt necessarily to an nye light north korea, but mabel the regi regime, maybe the kim jong un regime. Is that possible . Its probably not. What i suggest is secretary was secretary mattis was very precise and succinct in the words he used. That was for a purpose, to buy time for the other elements of National Power. Hes saying you stlet en us or our territories or allies and were coming after you. He didnt talk about new test, new launches into the middle of the ocean. He talked about specific threats to u. S. National territories or allies. With that on the table, i believe that puts kim jong un back on his heels a little bit. He may continue to do the missile test. May even do another nuclear test, but he realizes hes got to be very careful anywhere he launches those things. That allows the other elements of National Power to start working. Here is the thing. Nothing has changed in terms of the motivations of north korea or china in this particular regard. North korea is still very much interested in having a military strength. They want recognition on the world stage and want to try and improve their economy. China will not do anything unless they see they have some advantages here. We have to look at the motivations of our allies in this country as well as our foes in order to get something done. Just the blustering and the brashness wont do that. We have to bring allies into the tent as weve done before and address the motivations of these countries to see what they will do to change their approach. China, to increase embargoes, north korea to stop these kind of launches. Gordon, to that point, about our allies, in particular south korea, 10 million South Koreans there in seoul and the president is tweeting about appeasement, cutting off trade with south korea. How does that impact this entire situation . Well, the south korean leadership a few hours ago wasnt very happy. Clearly this is, we dont like south korea week, because also just a few days ago before the nuclear tests, there were all these reports circulating in washington that the president wanted to send a notice of termination of the u. S. South korea free trade agreement. Thats not a good idea, even though the South Koreans have been cheating on that deal. This is the worst week to do that because we need, as general hertling said, our allies on board. Panel, thank you all very much. Obviously well be covering this top story and whatever breaking developments throughout the morning. To our other top story. Sources tell cnn that President Trump is expecting to end the program that helps young immigrants from being deported. Joe johns is at the white house. Reporter the announcement is expected tomorrow ending daca in this way, with a sixmonth pause. It would fulfill President Trumps longstanding campaign promises, putting the burden of sustaining the program on among other the speakers of the house. We love the dreamers. We love everybody. Reporter sources say President Trump is expected to end an baemera program who were brought to the u. S. From being deported. The issue one of the president s Core Campaign promises. I want the children growing up in the United States to be dreamers also. Theyre not dreaming right now. Reporter his plan would affect some 800,000 dreamers studying and working in the u. S. Two sources with knowledge of the president s thinking says the president is planning to delay his action for six months giving Congress Time to come up with a legislative replacement to daca. A growing number of republicans are speaking out against the move. These kids dont know any other home. I think President Trump agrees with fixing this. Its got to be up to the legislature. There are 800,000 daca kids, kids brought across the border. The median age is 6 years old for those 800,000 when they came across the border. They should not be punished for the since of their parents. Senator Bernie Sanders says ending the program would be one of the ugliest and cruellest decisions ever mate. While king praised it as a way to restore rule of law. Well deal with daca at heart. I deal with a lot of politicians and have to con tins them what im saying is right. The daca situation is a very, very difficult thing for me. I love these kids. Reporter before leaving the white house, mr. Trumps predecessor vowed not to remain silent if he went after dreamers. Efforts to round up kids who have grown up here and for all practical purposes are American Kids and send them someplace else when they love this country getting an outcome on daca has been made more of a threat by ten attorneys claiming to take it to court if there is not a decision made by tomorrow, september 5th. Joe johns live at the white house. Ahead, what will the president s decision mean for dreamers, some 800,000 in this country and how will republicans in Congress Respond . Well discuss with our panel next. When i walked through a snowstorm for a cigarette, thats when i knew i had to quit. For real this time. Thats why im using nicorette. 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It takes the ball which was very firmly in his court on this because of the attorneys general deadline for september 5th and puts it in congresss court. I know this is being read and understandably so given the threat to end the Dreamers Program in six months as donald trump ending it. I would say what donald trump is essentially doing is handing it to congress because he doesnt really want to end it. Of all the things in this campaign and in his presidency, early days of his presidency, donald trump has been the most thoughtful, insightful about the dreamers. Hes made clear hes very divided on it. What hes saying is im going to give it to congress. He Hopes Congress can get through it. He cant seem to find a way. Im skeptical that congress is able to pass anything big because this is going to have to be a republican and democratic vote. This is not going to be a republican bill because there are enough people like steve king, particularly in the house, who i think would make it hard for paul ryan to just pass this, some form of protection for dreamers with just republican votes. I actually think thats what trump is up to. I dont think this is a secret plot. If he wanted to, he could have ended it tomorrow. Right, sure. Errol, isnt it that his hand is being forced by these ten state attorneys general. Look, the president i think has been publicly conflicted about the dreamers and also publicly said he wants to do it with compassion, keep families together. Is it really there was this looming legal battle so he had to act this weekend . His hand is being forced. He would ra