They were killed and in what name of evil that made it done that made such a mar on the culture. The grisly murders changed the perspective of the nation and gripped the entirely world. Manson is evil, making him one of the most infamous killers in history. Steve any lee la Stephanie Elam with breaking details. Reporter it is unbelievable to think in those murders Charles Manson did not participate but managed to get his family to participate, the manson family to participate and carry out these murders. For that he was serving nine life sentences until he died this weekend. Manson may be the most famous mass murderer ever. Reporter the summer of 69 was marred by murders that shook the nation. Five People Killed at the home of Hollywood Star sharon tate and another couple murdered the following night. Manson was behind the brutal killings, the leader of the clan. He was convicted of conspiracy and murder in 1971 and infamously went down in history. I do a lot of things around the world that you guys dont see. Reporter he was born in cincinnati in 1934 to a single teenage mother. She got out of my life early. I spent the best part of my life in boy schools, prisons and reform schools because i had nobody. Reporter after marrying twice and spending half his life in prison, 32yearold manson made his way to berkeley in 1967. He established himself as a guru in the summer of love and was quickly sharing a home with 18 women. You get these kids, these children coming in and here is Charlie Manson saying how much he loves them and he wants them and take care of them. He took full advantage. Reporter mansons passion for music translated into an obsession with the beatles helter skelter. They wanted to have a worldwide revolution. Blacks against whites. Reporter aiming to launch the fabricated war, manson directed his disillusioned clan to kill. August 9th, 1969, four manson followers invaded the Hollywood Hills home of actress sharon tate where they massacred five people. The 26yearold starlet was eight and a half months pregnant. The next night they murdered a couple. Lee know and rosemary labianca. At both homes they left behind shocking murder scenes. When the words helter skelter are printed in blood at the murder scene, that was tantamount to mansons fingerprints being found. Reporter after a highprofile trial, manson and four followers were convicted of nine murders and sentenced to death in 1971, which was do downgraded to life in prison when california banned the Death Penalty. Manson did try to get out of prison but denied parole 12 times while he was in jail. All of this time, nearly 50 years, the sister of sharon tate, which is very adamant she made sherman son and his followers stayed in prison. She told People Magazine that she said a prayer for his soul when she got the call from prison officials letting her know that manson had finally passed away. Chris and alisyn. Stephanie, thank you very much. This was a towering depraved figure in our childhood. It wasnt your average horrific murder. It was the thrill killing of it that was so haunting. The writing in blood. All the details. I just remember being fairly haunted by that. He succeeded in what he wanted to be, the personification of evil. He benefited from the change in the Death Penalty and was allowed to keep being this figure of evil. For the families now, that chapter is finally closed. The news of the day. A new political firestorm on twitter. President trump slamming the father of one of the three ucla basketball players who were detained for shoplifting. The prison demanded kabg laids for help to go free the student athletes. Lavar ball, outspoken father of one of the players, cast doubt on President Trumps involvement in freeing his son liangelo. The president firing back in this tweet now that the three basketball players are out of china and saved from years in jail, lavar ball, father of liangelo, is unaccepting of what i did for his son and shoplifting is no big deal. I should have left them in jail. Shoplifting is a very big deal in china, as it should be. 5 to 10 years in jail. But not to father lavar. Should have gotten his son out during my next trip to china instead. China told them why they were released. Very ungrateful. And he didnt stop there. Going after senator jeff flake in an open mike moment. He called the Republican Party toa toast. He said senator jeff flaky, who is unelectable in the great state of arizona, quit race, anemic polls was adequate purposely. I dont know how he can say that. On mike saying bad things about your first president. Hell be a no on tax cuts because his political career anyway is toast. Margaret, we have never seen a president of the United States throw their own citizens under the bus even in this kind of rhetorical hyper bowlic fashion saying i should have left those americans in china. But this is who trump is. How does it play . I was going to say its not what you typically think of as president ial behavior. But it is now. Even when President Trump seems like hes acting completely off the cuff, i think he really instinctively understands what hes doing and trying to drive the news cycle and control the narrative. When you look at whats going on, what he has to keep his eye focused, on trying to deal with this crisis in north korea, theres a lot of problems in yemen right now. This is obviously a side show but a side show with a purpose. Its meant to galvanize the base and to show his critics that hes not afraid to fight them one by one even if it causes all this kind of controversy. On the one hand, it allows a political distraction so he can move forward with an agenda with less coverage. Is on the other hand, people who push back with him whether its on a provision in the tax plan that he is willing to take them on one by one in a high profile stage. David, how do you see it . I should have left americans to rot in a chinese prison, what is that . The president equates himself with the country and has always been brand first. It is ironic. We havent seen a president in a while so often talk about reference for the countrys symbols, such as the flag. We saw a tweet criticizing Marshawn Lynch for not standing during a game played in mexico city, an nfl game. This is something the president continues to drive. And i think that it is indicative of a president who in a sense has never been able to separate himself as a businessman and entertainer who is almost promoting, to Great Success is, his personal brand, with what in a sense this 10monthold job is, a temporary gig representing the country. Margaret is right. It was indicative in the tweet to flake. He is talking to a defined group of americans who are very supportive of him. There is a big argument in american politics. But many people believe the president is right in this regard. The country is too split and too polarized to do the sort of governing from the center approach that most president s in the past at least paid lip service to. You will Pay Attention to your voters exclusively. And thats how you win it. Look, lets be honest about what he is doing tactically. It is a distraction. It works. But he is also playing to division. I think that is the root of the criticism, margaret. Not whether or not its effective. We will see it get played out in elections. We saw that in virginia. Is it a one off, an outlier . We will see what his party does with him. The criticism, the basic one that you are playing on what divides america, and thats not what a president is supposed to do, what does that criticism have ultimately . The test of that, i think youre right, both a 2020 election and the midterms which will come phufp sooner. One of the major jobs of being the president is to be a uniter, consoler in he chief. His role is a little out of step with past president s. Even past president s that americans at the time thought were overstepping their bounds. But i think for the president what this does is, number one, galvanizes his base in a cultural sense. What the president finds a lot of profit in politically is in prosecuting a culture war. And i think this is just another sort of flashpoint in that effort to sort of say theres us. We care about the country. We care about the president. And theres them. And they dont have the kind of resident. Theres no question that in terms of pressing division thats i guarantee you surrogates are talking about Marshawn Lynch, the nfl guy. I dont want you to change from us. But if you look at fox, i guarantee you that Marshawn Lynch story is all over the place as being a big deal and what the nfl will do. That works in terms of division. In terms of political realities, he has to deal with the jeff flake strategy also. Lets play what the senator from arizona said on this hot mike moment. We will get into why the president reacted the way he did. It has become the party of roy moore and donald trump. Youre the guy that could just for fun. Think how much fun it would be just to be the foil, you know. Fun. A lot of fun to be in this blood sport of what is tearing america apart. The idea, margaret, of what the party is and why jeff flake is against taxes, the president said something very interesting in his last tweet. He said because flakes career is done, right, his career is toast, hes going to vote no on the tax cuts. Obviously he doesnt mean it this way, but he is probably right. Which is if you take the expediency of having to be elected and go along the with b. S. Over choosing party over country, that speaks to the fact that this isnt a middleclass tax cut so im not going for it. Thats the political reality. And the irony is the president is supposed to be destroying the swamp. He is reacting negatively to people trying to do the right thing against just sticking in their own set of the mud of the swamp. Certainly one of the levers that President Trump has over almost every other republican who is going to have to vote on this legislation now in the coming weeks is that they have to weigh their own instinctive concerns, ideological concerns against the mandate for the reelection campaign, both the primary and the general election. And for jeff flake, for bob corker, you know, for some of these lawmakers, its just not one of their considerations. So it is much hard tore control and manipulate them. Jeff flake has not said that he is a no vote for this legislation. If it seems like President Trump is trying to prompt him there, he may be trying to do Something Else which is signal to ron johnson, to all the other lawmakers who have to stand for reelection that he will come after them in the same way if put in a corner. That makes more sense. That makes a lot of sense. We only have 10 seconds. This is not about policy disagreement. Flake votes for the president 90 of the time. This is the future of the party and the values it is is going to reflect outside of politics and economics. Just an economic reality. They say it is a muddle class tax cut. Just look at all the score and who it helps the most. Thank you very few. David, margaret, thank you. 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Hes whacking back at lavar ball who was i think sort of out of line. And i dont take it very seriously. It is more fun and funny. Lavar ball has taken on Michael Jordan one on one. I dont think he means to be too serious. I think it was lighter thing than not. Thats my read on it. As a pro vac taour trying to make money and build a brand. The other is the president of the United States who ends up basically saying i should have left these americans in china. Both are pro srobg taours trying to build a man. He has three amazing kids. It is a big brand. It looks like donald trump fell right into lavar balls brand. We are on national tv talking about lavar and his brand. He needs that opponent. That seems to be the only way he can operate. Usually its Hillary Clinton or the media. He also has this thing where he likes to press upon the divisions. So when you have those instances like jamil hill, Fredricka Wilson or lavar ball, there is a common thread. It preys on the darkest part of our countrys history. The president targeting people of color when he picks his fights . No. Jeff flake caught it later in the day. I think bakari is right he likes to foil. He is elevating him and his brand and all. I just think it is a little bit more fun. Trump has a record now of getting some of our american young people especially out of asia where they are in trouble. The kid from ohio came home and passed away here. At least we got it home. Trump takes some pride in that. No one takes lavar ball, who has taken on on Michael Jordan, no one takes him as seriously as the jeff flake debate. I dont see it as a racial thing. It is a fun thing and typical trump. As you say, we are talking on national tv about this family. And thats not a bad thing i think its a good thing. So if barack obama had gotten into a spat with somebody and he said you know what, maybe ill just leave your kid in iran if thats how you feel, would you have said its playful or have you ever gone on a serious harang about demeaning the presidency. I dont think i was on the tv at the time. But when the president sided with the guy in harvard instead of the Law Enforcement officer and it became the beer summit, i didnt go on and go historical. I listened to the program, chris. I dont think that our president s in our culture are quite as quite as uniting. I think they have angles. Obama, clinton, bush did. I dont think its a racial thing here. But i take your point. Some people say, oh, my gosh, here comes the president. But a few hours later jeff flake is in the twitter focus. I think hes not an africanamerican. He is mormon from arizona. A lot of people get into it with trump. That is good and bad. Were almost out of time. It is not about race. Its about what the president does. This is his tactic. And all president s have not been just uniters. They have their own angles. This president is no different. Well, no. This president is vastly different. Whether or not its someone like a nikki haley or john kasich or jeff flake or whether somebody like Eric Garcetti or whomever that comes next in 2020, theyre going to have to do a great deal of repairing the dignity of this office. Because what happened yesterday is below this office. And we can have another discussion about whether or not it involves race or not. But i can just tell you we can just look at the president s track record. And his grades and scores on race are not the highest we have ever seen. The good thing is this. We dont have to deal with two boxes and a moderator. Eventually there will be an election and an accounting and we will see what the people accept and what they reject. Gentlemen, again, thank you. Alisyn. Thanks, chris. Thank you. Happy thanksgiving. You too. 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