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CNNW New Day Saturday June 2, 2018

Ago that the summit was off. While theres a lot of criticism about what could potentially happen in the summit and that this has given north korea the advantage, the president was quick to warn the north Korean Leaders that he has many options on the Table Including sanctions. Take a listen. One thing i did do, and it was important, we had hundreds of new sanctions ready to go on. And he did not, the director did not ask. I said im not going to put them on until such time as the talks break down. We had significant sanctions on that. We had hundreds, we have hundreds that are ready to go. I said im not going to why would i do that when were talking so nicely . Reporter they are talking nicely now, but the president certainly dialing back expectations as to what could come out of the summit. Initially there were lofty goals as to what could happen when he and kim jongun sat down. Now this is being described as more of a get to know you meeting with the hopes that they could begin serious talks about things like denuclearization and the formal end to the korean war. Ryan, were also hearing reports that a putin summit is being talked about. What have you heard in that regard . Reporter thats right. The wall street journal report ing that the white house and creme reporting that the white house and kremlin in the early stages of getting Vladimir Putin and President Trump together. John huntsman, former governor of utah, taking the lead on negotiations, attempting to finds an opportunity for the leaders to sit down. And Sarah Sanders confirming to the journal talks are taking place. Everyone cautioning that this is the early stages of the conversation. And that the president himself wont begin to engage in this process until long after the north korea summit is behind him. President trump only met face to face with Vladimir Putin on two other occasions. Of course his meeting would come against the backdrop of the investigation into his campaigns potential ties to russia and fallout that could occur when Robert Mueller completes his investigation. They want to make it happen. The question is where and when. Ryan nobles at the white house. Thanks. Intelligence officials are doubting north koreas major show of goodwill. Well get to that in a moment. Will ripley is in singapore. What are you hearing from that location about what is anticipated in the next ten days . Reporter hi, yeah, they have a limited amount of time to take care of a lot of logistical details. We know that north korea has a delegation along with the United States. They are sorting out everything from accommodation for President Trump and the north Korean Leader kim jongun to the venue for the summit itself. They have to have the right security and infrastructure in place for what is expected to be Massive Media interest descen descendescends descending on this small city state. Theyve hosted summits before, but nothing like this. South korea calling it the meeting of the century. All of this unfolding shortly after President Trump received that oversized letter in the oval office. The contents of which he has yet to reveal. We know that kim jongun is a fan of letter diplomacy. When he wants to communicate with someone in the highest, most respectful way aside from a facetoface meeting, he sends a letter. Apparently President Trump from the photograph in the white house was pleased to receive that and encouraged enough by his content of the discussions with Kim Yong Chol to move forward with the summit here june 12th in singapore. Theres a meeting happening between Regional Defense leaders, james mattis spoke here. The South Koreans stroking an optimistic tone about the summit. The japanese much more skeptical pointing out the history in the past has shown north korea re g reneging on deals, but theying they hope it will be a positive step they hope it will be a positive step forward and change history. Ten days. Will ripley at the city hosting the big summit, i singapore. Thank you very much. And north koreas major show of goodwill is being called into questio question. The regime said it would destroy a nuclear site in front of a select group of journalists. The point is there were no experts invited. Will was there,y about no experts. The but no experts. The chairwoman from brookings studio in is with us. Thank you very much for being with us. First of all, your confidence level that north korea did indeed destroy something that at one time had been valuable to them. My initial thought when they said they would destroy the site is they must have another testing site. It was suspicious that they didnt invite experts to the site to witness the explosions. Ever since the North Koreans have said that theyre going to do this, its seen as a show rather than a genuine attempt at denuclearization. That said, lets listen to what Mitch Mcconnell is saying essentially to President Trump ten days ahead of the summit between the president and kim jongun. Its going to be quite a challen challenge. I think for these situations to work, you have to not want the deal too much. If you fall in love with the deal, and its too important for you to get it and the details become less significant, you could get snookered. President trump says he is a key negotiator. This is something that he is talented with. Kim jongun, tell me, does kim jongun, is he adroit enough to snooker President Trump . You know, i think the size of the letter that Kim Yong Chol gave to President Trump is a good signifier of how kim jongun and the regime knows how to play the game. You cant mistake the letter. Its not a regularsize letter, but its done for theatrics. The fact that the size of the letter, the size of the explosion at the nuclear test si site, the bluster from north korea, all of that is done for show and for theater. I think kim jongun so far has shown a great deal of aptitude for engaging indent mays. Hes in diplomacy. Hes saying the right things in terms of economic reform, saying the things about peace and brotherhood and ending the korean war. With President Trump hes using flattery and other things to make sure that he gets this summit. Hes also not giving away the store. Japans defense minister says that north korea shouldnt be rewarded for agreeing to talks, he said, in fact, in light of how north korea has behaved in the past, i believe its important not to reward north korea solely for agreeing to have a dialogue. What reward do you think japan might be concerned about and what message is that sending to President Trump . Reporter japan has been sidelined in all of this, and japan is still the only country calling for maximum pressure on north korea. A striking reversal from six or seven months ago when the u. S. And japan were standing side to side together on demanding complete denuclearization of north korea. Japan and others are concerned about the fact that north koreas getting a major summit with the sitting u. S. President without having had to give anything in response. As weve seen the blasting of the Nuclear Test Site was not real. They have said repeatedly that theyre not going to give up Nuclear Weapons without maximalist conditions in place. I think several people, many people share the concern of japan and Mitch Mcconnell and others that we have to be careful about legitimizing kim jongun even as he holds the Nuclear Weapons. All right. So good to have your insight this morning. Thank you. Thank you. Lets talk more about secretary mattis comments overnight. 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Ask your doctor about vraylar. We did not talk about human rights. I think we probably will, and maybe in great deal. We did not talk about human rights. Go ahead. No talk of human rights there. A meeting with the former north korean spy chief in the white house and a summit on june 12th with the north korean dictator. Is the Trump Administration ignoring north koreas history of human rights abuse ahead of this meeting . Lets talk about that and more with cnns will ripley live from singapore. Errol lewis, political commentator and anchor for spectrum news. And walter schwab, tributor and director of the government ethics office. Good morning to you. Will, i want to start with you because this follows a narrative, President Trump as far as we know did not talk about human rights with the saudi when was they traveled for saudis when they traveled for the first time overseas, didnt talk about with duterte of the philippines or erdogan of turkey and on and on. Tell us about Kim Yong Chol and why that a significant topic with him about north korea. Reporter he also hasnt talked about it with xi jinping of china who has a history of human rights abuse. This meeting with Kim Yong Chol controversial. This is a figure who South Koreans have despised for a long time. Hes believed to be the mastermind of a sinking of the naval shape that killed dozens of south korean sailors. Hes believed to be the mastermind of the hack on Sony Pictures entertainment. Hes believed to be one of those responsible for jailing a significant number, tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of North Koreans in these political reeducation camps for people who are perceived to be disloyal. And yet the issue of human rights in north korea simply has not been brought up by the Trump Administration in this case. Some may argue that President Trump is being practical here, that bringing up human rights would be a nonstarter, it would shut down these denuclearization talks before they begin. They might argue that the issue of Nuclear Weapons is a bigger, pressing concern for u. S. National security. North koreas human rights record. You have people saying that any nuclear deal isnt sustainable unless the human rights issue is also tackled. Its not going to happen here in singapore on june 12th. The administration boasts that they have offered no concessions thus far with north korea. They didnt offer anything in exchange for the return of the american detainees, they didnt offer anything for the demolition of tunnels although thats looking to be just p. R. But Kim Yong Chol was in the oval Office Yesterday for more than an hour with the president of the United States. Are the North Koreans now halfway home by the legitimacy of that meeting . Reporter more than halfway. The photo op that they are clearly looking for which is the president of the United States shaking hands with and smiling with the north korean dictator, thats the whole thing. And they get away with it if theres no talk of human rights. They get to keep people jailed. They get to keep people oppressed. They get to keep people under the thumb of a brutal aheader terry dictator hereditary dictatorship. And they know the president of the United States is not going to raise a peep. Thats the whole reason they have the Nuclear Weapons. The entire, sordid racket really sort of works to the benefit of the North Koreans. Its distressing to see. It also sends a terrible, terrible message to people fighting the good fight in russia, in china, in the philippines, and all around the world who wanted to believe and who would like to believe that the leader of the free world, one of the titles we bestow on every president of the United States is simply not going to talk about them, think about them, or use any leverage to try and better their plight. Its distressing. From an ethical perspective, walter, to have this meeting not in the roosevelt room or in another place in the white house but in the oval office, how do you receive that . I mean, theres no government ethics issues in terms of the rules or government ethics laws. But as errol said, the issue is the legitimizing of the north korean regime. And this is something past president vs. Avoided doing president s have avoided doing. The optics are everything because it strengthens the north Korean Leaders position. Let me ask about another element looking forward to this meeting in ten days in singapore. The Washington Post is reporting that the u. S. Planners are working to figure out who will pay for the Hotel Accommodations for the north korean delegation. Their property of choice is the fullerton. The president ial suite goes for 6,000 a night. The u. S. Is willing to plan it, but some think it might be insulting to the North Koreans and would violate sanctions. There would have to be a waiver. This could be a secondary tertiary issue. Is it substantial enough that it could cause problems in the final ten days . Well it goes to how poorly thought through this entire thing is. Right now they surely have lawyers scrambling to research what processes they have to go through to comply with appropriations law and with the sanctions provisions. Im sure theyll find some kind of way. Again, we get back to the legitimizing of north korea, and now were essentially paying tribute if we wind up paying for their hotel. I mean, its the idea that were getting anything out of this meeting is confusing. Speaking of getting something out of the meeting, weve talked about the expectations the u. S. Will have going into this, lowering them from potentially a denuclearization deal that we talked about several weeks ago to a getting to know you plus, whatever that is. Do wean what kim expects do we know what kim expects . Normally when two heads of state meet, its after months or years of diplomacy at lower levels so when they get together they can walk away with a substantial deal. Seems as if President Trump realized after discussions with the North Koreans that hes not going to get that so easily. The United States thinking that north korea is going to

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