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CNNW New Day Weekend With Victor Blackwell And Christi Paul November 10, 2019

Did you vote for trump 2016 . Absolutely and ill vote for him again even if i have to go in my wheelchair. Its 7 00 on a sunday morning. 7 01. In fact. Still time for the weekend left. Im christi paul. Im Martin Savidge in for victor blackwell. The impeachment inquiry starts on sense. Several key witnesses scheduled to appear to the impeachment hearings. Marie yovanovitch someone of those, the former ambassador to ukraine. Now republicans have released the names of their own witness wish list. Among them, hunter biden and the anonymous whistleblower who started the whole impeachment inquiry. Lets bring in White House Correspondent Kristen Holmes in washington. Im wondering, first of all, what people are reading into the republicans strategy as we look at the witness list they have submitt submitted. Reporter the first thing is shows the republicans have a clear effort to shift focus from President Trump and his policy in ukraine. Start by looking at these names. When it comes to the anonymous whistleblower we already from their lawyer asking them to testify in front of the committee was a nonstarter. That they would submit written questions to answers but not appear in person. We got a letter from adam schiff saying that there was no reason for the whistleblower to testify, that they had already heard enough that confirmed what he had originally put forward. This letter read, in part now i want to point to one other thing here that this witness list really points out. It shows that republicans are also going to try and steer the focus forwards some of these unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. We take a look at that list. A couple of them i want to point out. A former board member of the same Ukrainian Energy company that biden was on. You have a researcher who worked for fusion gps which is, of course, the firm that commissioned that fame dossier that linked President Trump and staffer at the Democratic National committee. Clearly thee dont involve the impeachment why wery as we know it so far but this is their strategy. Strategy is to deflect. The president blocked his chief of staff from testifying but trump wants a fair process. We are getting mixed questions from the white house. Reporter we are hearing this since president s tenure in Office Starting with the Mueller Investigation same he was the no transparent president but yet he would not talk to mueller himself. No release on the tax returns and comes to the same exact thing with this ukraine investigation. Here is what he had to say yesterday. No, no. I dont care. Public, they should be public. What i said it was misreported, as usual. What i said is very simple. There shouldnt be anything. There shouldnt be impeachment hearings is what i said. So maybe they misconstrued it. What i say is read the transcript. Its all about the transcript. They are having people, i never heard of some of these people. I dont know who they are. By the way, its all thirdhand knowledge. But regardless of what anyone says, read the transcript reporter i cannot point this out enough. President trump continues to say its thirdhand knowledge but we have heard from witnesses who were on that call with president zelensky. Kristen holmes, we appreciate it. Thank you. 5 00 p. M. Tomorrow night a judge is hearing if Mick Mulvaney can join a lawsuit that questions the subpoena power of the warehouse. If allowed mulvaney would not be allowed to testify in the impeachment inquiry. He claimed on friday immunity. He appears the house could hold him in contempt. We are joined by april ryan of urban National Network and michael ryan, assistant to the department of justice and a cnn legal analyst. Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. April, let me ask you this. It indicates the republicans are going to deflect here and is it a good strategy and do you think it will work . Of course, its great strategy to deflect but the democrats are firm on this nair focus and want to deal on the call and not deal with hunter biden and dont want to deal with that. At issue will the republicans bring this up. The government who happens to be on these panels that will be holding the hearings, along with the president and have to see how this plays out and adam schiff says he will not allow for the witnesses to include the anonymous whistleblower and hunter biden and others to come in from that gop list. Michael, its expected these witnesses that they have asked for, at least some of them, maybe hunter biden, the b whistleblower may be rejected but is there a benefit to the republicans putting their name out there . It changes the substance of what the president is accused to these collar matters. I personally think its shameful. They should try the merits of the case and not have these collateral witnesses and try to just stir up dirt at the bottom of the pool. I personally think that if the president believes firmly, as he does, that he did nothing wrong and this is a perfect call, then join the issue on the merits and let the witnesses testify and let mulvaney and let bolton and let all of these people who have substantive direct knowledge of what went on testify. Then the American People can determine who is right. Can i ask you real quick, michael . The second call which is actually the first call apparently if you look at the time line. Do we know anything about it and what we expect . Will there be anything significant . A phone call to the president of ukraine that got us where we are. Right. As i understand it, this was a call in april. It was more of a congratulatory call than a substantive call so i dont think there is much ins the july call. We have to see. It wont be a transcript. It will be a summary and hopefully, the summary will be complete where the july summary excluded information that was relevant to the matter under inquiry, the Impeachable Offense inquiry so we will see. I just dont expect there to be much here. April, i want to ask you about mulvaney. Democrats essentially have one of two things to decide here. They are going to give i am him his court run and take a gamble and bank on him being ordered to testify, or therapy going to abandon that thought and just try to get this through expeditiously. I think more important to wait it out. Two names are prominent in all of this testimony we are getting, the depositions and the transcripts we are getting is that Rudy Giuliani was one person and Mick Mulvaney was the other. He came out at that podium saying there is quid pro quo and tried to roll it back. Wait out and see is the best approach because Mick Mulvaney has a finger that could point to the president and others to nail this coffin shut, possibly. Thank you both. So glad you agreed to get up early on a sunday morning. Grateful to have you here. Thanks. Thank you. Sure. President trump, by the way, was welcomed with cheers and chants of usa at the alabama lsu football game. First Lady Melania Trump was with him. His reception contrasted with the scene at game five of the world series in washington where the welcome was not quite so exuberant. It was quite different. Not far away from that stadium antitrump protesters were proudly flying their baby trump balloon where a random guy flashed by and slashed it. Hoyt hutchison has been charged with firstdegree criminal mischief. Football fans were asked about their thoughts about the impeachment inquiry against the president. Here is what they said. I think its a bunch of bull [ bleep ]. I think its a firshing competition and been like that three years now. Reporter are you following what he is being impeached for . Something in the ukraine where he told the president take a look at biden for his misdeeds, why he was in office. If he was corrupt, he was corrupt. Put him in jail. Reporter did you vote for trump in 2016 . Absolutely and ill vote for him again even if i have to go in there in a wheelchair. In a sharp rebuke. The Company Party cindy mccain would be upset reporter what would john mccain be saying right now . Oh, gosh. I think he would be disgusted with some of the stuff going on. I think he would be railing against what is going on and i think john provided a lot of cover for other members and when he would do it and they could get behind him kind of thing and im not seeing that this right now in all of this. Cindy john mccain went on to say republicans may be afraid to take on President Trump in afraid of not being reap elected but she said, quote, you have to do what youre elected to do and that is represent the country, unquote. Coming up, an anonymous Senior Trump Administration official is celt to real estasl tellall book. Our next guest has read it and we will talk to her about what is in it. Bernie blasts billionaires. How vermont senator is going after Michael Bloombergs potential bid for the white house. Disturbing cell phone video. A substitute teacher stomping and punching on a student in a high school in texas. We will tell you what this is all about. Honey bees are one of the most important agricultural populations and dying around the world at alarming 80s rates we have to innovate and think outside the box or think outside the hive. There is leach thought were crazy before the bee success. I will take bee girl name proudly. 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Com a white house in kissdisarr. Some in panic how the author of a new book a warning describes the inner workings of the white house. It describes the president as dealing with each new political crisis, like a 12yearold in an air Traffic Control tower pushing the buttons of government indiscriminately different to the planes skidding across the runway and the flights diverting away from the r runway, obviously, another quote there. Jennifer is here to talk about the Nonfiction Book critic i should say for the New York Times. Thank you for being here. I know at some point in this book anonymous writes, trust me. Do you get the sense we should trust this writer who will not reveal him or herself . Well, so i think this is sort of it cuts to the heart of the book. I know that the white house has tried to cast doubt on the actual facts described in this book that the press secretary has said its a bunch of lies, essentially. I want to make she clear that in my review, which was quite critical of the book, i was not actually trying to cast doubt on the facts that they are described, because i think for a lot of readers they are going to sound very plausible because it isnt very different from a lot of what we are heard in the past three years. I think one of the issues with this book mainly is that because the author is determined to keep themselves anonymous, what ends up happening is that he or she cant get into too many specifics. And so they end up talking about things that have been reported in the news for the past three years, like President Trumps tweets, you know, the fact you mentioned the air Traffic Control quote, which is very memorable but, at the same time, if you think about it, its really just a different way of putting something that people have been saying for a few years now. Right. I was actually looking or listening for in some of the excerpts of someone describing a specific event in the white house and im not sure i found that yet let me ask you this. Since you are the critic for the New York Times what is your critique and how well is the book written . The writing is very clear. The person puts together, i think, a very methodical case of the things that they have seen in the past few years in the white house. I wouldnt say that the writing is necessarily quite beautiful to my ear, but that is maybe just a malts of taste. I mean, there is a lot of invocations of, you know, quotations from president s like teddy roosevelt, eisenhower, you know . Its cast in those terms and then different events that are reconstructed in the book. But, you know, my sort of take of it is that its very clearly written, i think partly because the author wants to make the case extremely clear as to why this is a warning for the next election. So you write that the big tell in the book essentially was, quote, the last straw for anonymo anonymous. And that last straw wasnt the president s faux pas or may uncouth behavior, it was the way he of spoke senator mccain when senator john mccain died. Anything surprise you by that . It was interesting to me because at that point when senator mccain died last year, several things had already happened that i think other people might have taken as a warning that the president perhaps was not rising to the leadership opportunities in his office. And, you know, for instance i mn mentioned in my review the unite the rights protest from charlottesville a woman was killed by a white supremacist. Trump reacted to that there is violence on many tiesides. And another was the family separation policy and anonymous said for anonymous, essentially, the last straw wasnt any of those things, it was what how President Trump reacted to the death of john mccain and the president , his desire to actually raise the flags above halfmass that was was particularly offensively to the author. So me, you know, it was sort of telling. It does suggest to meal someb p is a prominent figure is how they describe themselves. We appreciate hearing your point of view as youve read the entire book,ever. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for having me. Of course. When we come back, the president hits out again at the whistleblower who sparked this whole impeachment inquiry calling on that whistleblower to testify publicly. We are going to talk about howl the law currently does and maybe doesnt protect anonymous informants inside an administration. Plus, fan frenzy. 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The attorney for the whistleblower is responding to House Republicans request for public testimony. He says, look, its not happening. He went on to say the offer for lawmakers to submit written questions for his client still stands but he is concerned the republicans. He wants to remind congress what the role whistleblower plays in our government. Republicans and the president push to oust the whistleblower but others are pushing back to protect their anonymity. How does that happen . Lets go to a white house ethics lawyer and professor of university of law at the university of minnesota. Good morning to you, sir. Well, good morning. When it comes to protections of a whistleblower, we expect that these would be really strong. You want to protect these people because they are crucial to understanding how how democracy works and particularly if they are not working. The whistleblower has the right to anonymity, not to have his or her name disclosed to the public. P but the problem is if donald trump or anyone else working for donald trump finds occupy the identity of the whistleblower, that name can be disclosed. There is nothing that can be done about it. The Inspector General cant disclose it. Its not supposed to be disclosed but no system in place from opposing a penalty for disclosing the whistleblowers name. And unlike in the

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