Attacking you on twitter. What effect do you think that has on other witness willingness to come forward and expose wrongdoing. Its very intimidating. So you believe these words can be intimidating . I dont think so at all. We have learned significant new information perfect this closeddoor testimony and impeachment inquiry. For the first time a witness says he personally heard President Trump demand ukraine investigating the bidens. And on top of that the state Department Official said he was told the president didnt real lir care about ukraine. That he only cared about the big stuff. Democrats are accusing the president of witness intimidation, after he insulted the former ambassador to ukraine on twitter and he did this as she was testifying. The president slammed her and her Job Performance and then said he had a right to defend himself. We could learn more today about the Congress Approved military aid to ukraine, specifically when it was put on hold and when and why it was released. A senior budget official has been subpoenaed to talk about that. Were covering this from all angles, crystal hmz on capitol hill and Sarah Westwood at the white house. We want to start with crystal holmes. We know several closed doors meetings have been pretty significant. Talk to us about what youre learning this morning. Good morning. Many democrats are saying this impactful and they believe it moves President Trump closer to the ukraine Pressure Campaign. I want to take a step back and talk about who is david holmes and how did we get here . Holmes is a u. S. Staffer in ukraine and earlier in week it was revealed he overheard a conversation with President Trump and ambassador to the Ukraine UnionGordon Sondland in which President Trump talked specifically about the investigations into the bidens. I want to set the scene here as holmes did in his closeddoor testimony. He said the reason he was able to hear this call is they were having a meal together, him, sondland and two other staffers. They were outside and quiet and sondland policed this call to President Trump. Holmes said while it wasnt often speaker that President Trump was so loud that you could hear him distinctly, what he was saying and hear his voice. So loud, in fact, sondland had to move the phone away from his ear at one point. And he said he heard then i heard President Trump ask hes going to do the investigation . And ambassador sondland said he will do it. President zelensky will do anything you ask him to. The phone conversation ends there but the conversation between sondland and holmes does not. He then asked sondland is it true the president doesnt care about ukraine . And heres what sondland said back President Trump only, quote, cares about big stuff that involves the president like the biden investigation mr. Giuliani was pushing. Again, this is President Trump closer to that Pressure Campaign but what it also does is raise questions about President Trump and Gordon Sondland, who will testify about this next week. Lets go to the white house now and cnn reporter Sarah Westwood. Sarah, what is the white house saying about this . Victor, President Trump and white house allies are continuing to attack the impeachment inquiry bros ses and to try to undermine the credibility of some of the witnesses weve seen testimony so testify so far. That pattern continued yesterday, with President Trump tweeting an attack on Marie Yovanovitch while she was sitting in the chair testing before the intelligence committee. They asked her about it in realtime after hearing what he said and she said she did feel intimidated. Some said the president was only talking about his baext with the proceeding but some republicans, said she did not agree with the president s decision to tweet. Nonetheless how democrats are now accusing the president of witness intimidation and saying potentially this could be a new article of impeachment if they can gather more evidence of this. Meanwhile, President Trump yesterday defending himself as simply exercising his free speech rights. Take a listen. Were you trying to intimidate ambassador yovanovitch . I just want to have a total i want freedom of speech. Thats a political process. The republicans have been treated very badly. Sir, do you think your tweets were intimidating . Quiet, please. Sir, do you believe your recent words to be intimidating . I dont think so at all. Campaign sources tell cnn they believe it was a mistake for the president to attack yovanovitch during her testimony. One source telling cnn they believed it was even idiotic for the president to just give democrats an advantage in the emotional narrative surrounding the hearing yesterday. Sarah westwood, thank you. Cnn political analyst lisa lair, shes also the National Reporter with the new york times, as well as a white house adviser to president clinton. He was a special adviser to the president during his impeachment. Thank you very much for being here. Lisa, i want to read we havent done this yet this morning a statement from stephanie grisham, White House Press secretary, after ambassador yovanovitchs testimony saying in fact ambassador yovanovitch testified under oath she was unaware of any criminal activity involving President Trump. She wasnt on the july 25th phone call. She had no knowledge about the paws on aid to ukraine, trying to make a point that her testimony was not signature. Of what value did she bring to the inquiry . I think its really important to remember when we talk about impeachment, it is i political process. This is something heavily determined by politics that depends on congressional votes. So these emotional moments, like the one that was created when the president tweeted while she was testifying, can have a big influence on how Public Opinions shapes and the kinds of arguments both parties are able to make. I think the particular weakness with the president tweeting about yovanovitch while she was on the stand is that it raised questions about witness tampering, potentially opened other avenues for investigation, but also played into what democrats say is one of their strongest political arguments going into 2020 is one of mismanagement. The president is not up to doing the job. He hurts himself with selfinflicted wounds. And thats really what we saw. Even some republicans were saying on and off the record yesterday. Im wondering did you see that tweet as she was testifying, the tweet from the president as President Trump kind of sabotaging himself . I think what it is, and the media missed this because he does outrageous things and its a distraction. But what happens is when he does this, it distrats the republicans from their strategy of the day, which was also distraction, but it shifted. Even fox news in realtime reported it shifted the mood, the tone of the yovanovitch hearing, and now what we have from holmes is yet one more of the republican talking points isis removed. And this only was day two of the hearings. I mean, go back when the whistleblower, nobody knew about ukraine, and here we are day one, we get this big revelation about this phone call with the president s actual voice and the republicans kept saying, oh, its hearsay, its hearsay. Its no longer hearsay. Its the real thing. Imagine where were gonna be next week. We have eight more witnesses, fact witnesses, and sondlands coming back and hes in just a world of trouble. President clinton spoke with jake tapper earlier this week on thursday talking about what his message to President Trump would be in this case. Lets listen to that. My message was would be, look, you got hired to do a job. You dont get the days back people have lost. Every day is an opportunity to make something good happen. And i would say ive got lawyers and staff people handling this impeachment inquiry and they should just have at it. Meanwhile, im going to work for the American People. Thats what i would do. The stark difference is bill clinton was not out there talking about impeachment a lot. What do you say, if you could advise President Trump right now . Should he be defending himself . Be quiet. And run the country. And let the staff and lawyers and political people run the impeachment. President clinton actually ran the government. At the end of the day he would say to me or joe lockhart or some of the other guys on the Impeachment Team, well, what happened today . He didnt talk to the media about impeachment unless it was very planned. It was a highly disciplined operation, where there was an Impeachment Team separate. And then there was everybody else was told run the government. People were not even in the white house. Staff wasnt even allowed to talk about impeachment in Staff Meetings unless it was the Impeachment Team. That was the except of the discipline. And we see no discipline and now what we are seeing is a lot of things are coming out that are more and more damning and were going to see more things come out. Wondering where the democrats stand as we look ahead to 2020. We have michael bloomberg, who last week jumped into this race at a time people think we should be narrowing down this race, lisa. I know president obama spoke yesterday to the Democratic Alliance with a group of very wealthy donors last night. Heres what he had to say about the democratic party. Lisa, you were there. What is the strength of his influence still . President obama is extremely influential when it comes to democratic voters and donors and strategists. Part of his message last night was really to tell the establishment democrat types, the Party Officials and big donors, to calm down. Its going to be fine. Tough primaries are okay, and in fact, he argued, they can make the nominee stronger. But what was so interesting about his remarks is while he was trying to deliver that message, he really revealed some concerns he has of his own. He started talking about how president obamas concerned maybe some in the party are moving too far to the left on policies Like Health Care and like immigration and putting democrats in a place where they will it will be hard for them to win certain areas of the country in a general election. And while he didnt name any candidates specifically, it was pretty clear his remarks were aimed at senator warren and senator sanders. Even as he was trying to tell people to calm down, he was really revealing some of his own concerns at this event. Lisa, guy smith, thank you both. Were grateful you both were able to be here with us today. Thank you for having me. Thanks. Just getting these in from paris. Just a few minutes ago here. Take a look at your screen. We will give you two shots. Police have been firing tear gas to scatter protesters after they started lighting fires. This is the anniversary of those socalled yellow vest antigovernment movement. You can see a few there. 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There is no camouflaging that corrupt intent. Were adjourned. Mr. Speaker, may i speak on condition. Please allow the witness to leave. Mr. Chairman, we should have a chance to respond to your discretion remarks. Mr. Chairman, i demand to speak. Mr. Chairman, mr. Chairman thats how the public testimony of ambassador Marie Yovanovitch ended yesterday. A round of applause from the folks there after nearly seven hours before lawmakers. And still the white house is calling the second day of hearings in the impeachment inquiry useless and inconsequential. There was also the deposition of david holmes. We got his Opening Statement. He said that he personally heard President Trump demand ukraine investigate the bidens. Holmes also said they were surprised by how specific the request was that the ukraine president personally committed to an investigation of the bidens on a cable news channel. Joining me to discuss is colorado senator Michael Bennet. Also a candidate for president , running for the democratic nomination. Also sits on Senate Committee on intelligence. Senator, good morning to you. Good morning, victor. How are you . Very well, thank you. I want to read for you a portion of the david holmes opening state to get your reaction to it and for folks who have not heard this. This is what he said he overheard good the conversation, u. S. Ambassador to the european union, Gordon Sondland, speaking to President Trump after the july trump zelensky call. This is from his Opening Statement i heard President Trump ask so hes going to do the investigation . Ambassador sondland replied hes going to do it, that president zelensky will do anything you ask him to do. He goes on in the statement to say i asked sondland if it was true the president did not give a blank about ukraine. Ambassador sondland agreed that the president did not give a blank about the ukraine. Ambassador sondland stated, the president only cared about big stuff. I noted there was big stuff in ukraine like a war with russia, and ambassador sondland replies he meant big stuff that benefits the president like the biden investigation that mr. Giuliani was pushing. Your reaction to that. Its entirely consistent with all of the evidence weve seen and the whistleblower complaint first came out and its entirely consistent with who we know donald trump is. He doesnt give a blank about anybody but himself. The idea we have a president of the United States whos asking foreign leaders or demanding foreign leaders to investigate his political rivals and withholding aid to in this case ukraine that congress has approved to allow ukraine to defend itself against russia is unfathomable. And we cannot allow it to become the new normal of our policies. So weve only seen two days of hearings, three witnesses thus far. Have you seen anything that you expect will shift or convince any of your republican colleagues in the senate . I hope so. I mean, i think yesterday was a good day for america because it reminded people of, among other things, o