Transcripts For CNNW New Day With Alisyn Camerota And John B

CNNW New Day With Alisyn Camerota And John Berman April 3, 2019

Congress takes a significant step in trying to get his hands on the full Mueller Report. The House Judiciary Committee is expected to vote to authorize a subpoena to get special counsel Robert Muellers full and unredacted 400page report. Democratic lawmakers want to see why the fourpage summary in special counsel mueller specifically did not exonerate the president on obstruction of justice and even though the special counsel did not establish a criminal case against the president for conspiracy or coordination with the russians, democrats want to see if the report outlines questionable activity or contact with the russians, perhaps short of a crime. Just last week President Trump said he did not mind if the report went public, but now he appears to have had a change of heart. Overnight he used new language to suggest he does not want it out at all. He even called a public release, quote, ridiculous and a waste of time. The other day on twitter he suggested maybe we should just say no to its release. Manu raju is live on capitol hill in the room where the committee will meet with a preview of what we can expect. Whats going to happen there this morning . Reporter this is going to be a very lively meeting thats going to happen in about an hour as democrats push through a resolution to authorize subpoenas for the full Mueller Report, for the underlying evidence and to five former white house officials who they believe may have communicated with the white house in preparation with their testimony before the special counsel. They are planning to authorize these today, but not necessarily serve these subpoenas today. Jerry nadler, the chairman of the senate House Judiciary Committee says this is essentially going to be hes going to issue them when he feels it is necessary. Essentially it will be in his back pocket to decide when to really ratchet up the fight with the Justice Department to get the full Mueller Report and the underlying evidence. This all started last friday when bill barr sent a letter to capitol hill saying that he would provide the Mueller Report by midapril, if not sooner, plus there will be several areas of redactions. Those areas of redactions have prompted significant democratic concern, namely about grand jury information that would be redacted, as well as peripheral third parties, people who are not indicted who may have their reputations impugned if their names were in the Mueller Report, barr suggested that he would redact that as well. Those four areas in particular are causing democrats to say they are entitled to this information, they cite past cases like the watergate case, the starr investigation, the clinton email investigation when the Justice Department has provided this committee with information central to what they plan to investigate going forward. Now, republicans have pushed back rather strenuously, said, why not give the attorney general time to be as transparent as possible. Dont set arbitrary deadlines. That fight is going to take place here in just a matter of moments as both as the democrats are starting to really use their majority here in the house and their fourth month in power, issuing subpoenas that could end up in a court battle with the Justice Department, ultimately, of course, alisyn and john, it will determine it will be up to the Justice Department to determine just how much information to provide which will then essentially force the democrats hand to decide whether to issue these subpoenas or maybe this will ultimately just be a threat. Its interesting because when the barr summary first came out President Trump made it clear that he felt they should release the whole report. He had no problems with releasing the whole report, but his rhetoric has changed decidedly on that. Just listen. I dont mind. I mean, frankly, i told the house if you want, let them see it. I think its ridiculous. Anything thats given to them will never be good enough. You could give them more documents than they have ever seen and it would never be good enough. So i think its somewhat of a waste of time. The other night the president even wrote maybe we should just say no to releasing the report. How do democrats view this . Just posturing . Reporter they believe that the president is getting cold feet. They believe that the president saying that hes okay with releasing the Mueller Report before was just talk. I talked to adam schiff about this very topic yesterday, he said that the president believes he believes the president is is clearly concerned about the release of the report and democrats also are very skeptical about bill barr, skeptical that he is going to release as much as possible. They are not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as james comey the former fbi director said yesterday, give bill barr some time. That is something democrats are not willing to do. So the question here, john, is when will they issue these spaens . They are going to be authorized today, but when will these be served back to served to the Justice Department, alisyn, thats going to be the big question for jerry nadler in the days ahead. Thank you for previewing all of that for us. Now democratic president ial candidate houle i dont know castro is unveiling his immigration plan that would roll back a series of laws implemented under president s george w. Bush and donald trump. Julian castro joins us now. Great to be here. You are the first of the 2020 candidates to present a comprehensive immigration plan so gets go through it. Here is what you have said, we will put up the first graphic. End border wall construction, increase refugee quotas. Let me stop you right there because, as you know, right now at the border the customs and Border Protection agents say they are overwhelmed by the number of people coming in and families seeking asylum. Why would you increase those numbers . Well, you know, about four decades ago the United States actually set a cap on the number of refugees at about 100,000, 110,000, i think right now we might be at 30,000. Since that time we have basically been going downward. These are refugees as opposed to the folks that are seeking asylum that youre talking about, people presenting themselves at the border. As im sure you will get to i also believe we should handle the people presenting themselves at the border differently. Tell me about that because, again, the feeling from this administration is that we are in a full blown crisis and they are overwhelmed by it. I dont believe their narrative. I dont believe the bs that women and children who are fleeing dangerous circumstances present a National Security threat to this country. Well, what about the fact that they just dont have beds for them . They cant contain them . What does that have to do with whether they should be treated as criminals or not . What does that have to do with whether they should be able to present their claim for asylum . Right now this administration is playing games with them, not allowing them to present their claim for asylum at the border, keeping them caged in pens, folks probably saw the other day, for instance, the visuals out of el paso, they were under a bridge fenced in in a pen, treated like animals. I dont believe that we should do that. I have a different vision. I believe that we should go back to how this was handled before, about 2004. I believe that meaning it should be civil. Thats right. You see these as civil infractions you dont see them as criminal infractions. You know what people will say, you have to come to this country legally. Thats why my immigration plan also includes improving our Legal Immigration system. You know, sometimes people tell me, well, why are you talking about undocumented immigrants . I have a cousin or my parents or my grandparents, they came here and they came here legally. Why dont these folks apply legally . These two things are not mutually exclusive. What im asking people to do is to recognize that this president s cruelty has failed. He said about a year ago, this administration said if we would just be cruel enough to treat little children so badly, so cruelly that we would take them away from their mothers that that would deter more families from coming and instead the opposite is true, more families are coming today. So im saying weve tried cruelty, i believe that we should try compassion and that were still going to have a secure border. How . Lets talk about that. I mean, this is where i think that the president will come after you as will republicans because when you say that immigration detention will become a rarity, they say, well, you want open borders. They believe you must arrest people who are trying to enter the country illegally. This is just a republican talking point. Youre still going to have all of the Border Patrol that are on the border, they have 654 miles of fencing right now out of a 2,994 mile border. We have helicopters, we have airplanes. But when people show up if you dont detain them what are you going to do with them . Were going to process them and its true we still have the option to deport them. To say open borders is a complete falsehood because you still have the option to deport people. There are still children who are separated from their parents today as we speak, so after the administration did that and thousands of kids were separated from their parents and they tried to rectify it, first they tried to say they werent doing it intentionally, then they had to admit they were doing it, they tried to rectify it and didnt have addresses for the parents. There are still today kids who are separated. What is your solution for them . Well, i mean, the first thing is that the federal government needs to get its act together. They went into court a couple months ago and they said essentially that its not worth making the effort, that they couldnt make the effort to try to reunite little children with their mothers and fathers. Not only is that unamerican, more importantly thats inhumane. That shows a basic lack of human respect for people and i hope that that is fully investigated in congress and i hope that people are held accountable and by that i mean at least lose their jobs over that. Quickly on healthcare, you want medicare for all. Yes . Yeah. How will you pay for it . During the course of this campaign, because i think thats a good question and people deserve that answer, were going to release our own plan on how we would pay for that, but in general as others have pointed out were going to have to expect a lot more from people at the top who i think over the last 40 years basically the tax code has gone in the direction of asking less and less from people that are very, very well off and asking more and more from the middle class and people who are lower middle class and even poor, and from very successful corporations. Folks may have seen about three or four weeks ago, for instance, that amazon reported they earned more than 11 billion, but they didnt pay any federal taxes. How does that happen . You know, weve gone completely in the wrong direction. So part of the way that were going to pay for this and other things is were going to get our tax code in order so that it rewards work and not just wealth. Under your plan does private Health Insurance go away . It would not. I believe that if somebody wants to have a private Health Insurance plan or supplemental plan that they should be able to do that. We should strengthen medicare for the people that have it and then expand it so that everybody can take advantage of it. You know, i grew up with a grandmother that had diabetes and right before she passed away in early 1996 she had to have one of her feet amputated, but that entire time she had medicare. I want medicare to be there for everybody. Vice President Joe Biden who is not yet officially in the race but obviously considering it has, you know, come under fire from women who said they made him feel uncomfortable, he invaded their personal space, he touched them in a way that made them feel uncomfortable. Do you think that Vice President biden has handled this well thus far . I know that he put out a statement and, you know, explained his recollection of what happened. I am im glad that in 2019 that we take seriously the claims, the perceptions of women who have come forward and reported things like this because for a long time we didnt. People were just dismissed or ignored. I know Vice President biden also is a good man, i dont believe that he intended to harm anybody. So does he need to do more . Say more . I think thats for him and thats for the American People if he decides to run to determine. Mayor julian castro, thank you for telling us and spelling it all out what your plans would be as president. Good to be here. President trump is now less enthusiastic about releasing the Mueller Report to the public. This as the House Judiciary Committee makes moves to get the full unredacted report. Will they be successful . Well speak to a prominent House Democrat next. [woman] with my shark, i deep clean messes like this. This and even this. But i dont have to clean this, because the selfcleaning brush roll removes hair, while i clean. 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Joining me now is congresswoman Jackie Speier, she serves on the intelligence and Oversight Committees. Thank you for being with us. You just heard the president there, its different than where he started on releasing the Mueller Report after barr put out the summary. Do you think hes getting cold feet . I think its a pattern. He said he was going to release his tax returns and then he never released the tax returns. He said that he was going to be interviewed by the special counsel and then never was interviewed. Then he comes forward and says, oh, i want it all to come out and then, of course, now hes saying no. What is he afraid of is the question we should all be asking. This report belongs to the American People, its their taxpayer dollars that went into the twoyear investigation and we will one way or another find out whats in that report. And the House Judiciary Committee will authorize a subpoena in just a few minutes. Why not wait until you see what william bar provides here before hanging this subpoena over his head. Well, i think that chairman nadler may, in fact, wait. This is just to authorize the issuance of a subpoena. He will then determine when to issue the subpoena. I want to ask you because you serve on the Oversight Committee which has been looking into this issue of security clearances and we heard in public from tricia newbold, i know your committee has sproeken to her but we got to hear her voice last nigh

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