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CNNW New Day With Alisyn Camerota And John Berman March 10, 2020

Tuesday, march 10th, 8 00 in the east. New revelation about the trump administrations efforts to track the and counter the coronavirus pandemic. Just moments ago on new day, one of the president s point men could not say how Many Americans have been tested for coronavirus. Heres Health Secretary alex azar. You honestly dont know, you dont know how many people have been tested . Because a private vendor shipped most of those 1. 1 million shipped from a private vendor selling to their customers and those entities that use the tests do not have to report back to cdc. Were trying to set up a reporting system where they would have to do that. Here are the numbers as best we know them at this hour. The death toll in the u. S. Is 26. The number of cases has risen overnight to 732. Thats across 36 states and washington, d. C. Globally more than 4,000 people have died. And there are now more than 113,000 confirmed cases. This morning all italy is on lockdown. The countrys borders effectively closed, 60 Million People barred from traveling there for weeks. Here in the United States, local officials are moving to mitigate the impact of the pandemic. That means social distancing. Santa clara county, california, has banned gatherings of more than 1,000 people and the securities and exchange commission, the s. E. C. Told employees to work from home and this is going on in the middle of what seems to be a financial crisis. Ohio State University just became the latest college, look at this map, to cancel in person classes, despite as far as we can tell having no confirmed cases on campus. Schools from coast to coast are closing this morning to clean the classrooms. Boston just canceled its annual st. Patricks day parade, a big deal there. Pearl jam, madonna, miley cyrus canceling concerts and were keeping a close eye on the mark hes after the single worst day on wall street since the 2008 crisis. Things are looking up, the stock futures pointing to a big rebound. The markets appear to be reacting in part to President Trump floating the idea of a payroll tax cut and other Economic Relief to offset the impact of the coronavirus. Were going to begin, though, with the Health Concerns this morning. Joining us, cnn chief medical correspondent dr. Sanjay gupta and dr. Celine gounder. I want to start with where you think we are this morning. The most important developments over the last 12 hours. I dont know if it is santa clara declaring in gatherings, more schools closing, what is it . I think the social distancing measures that are going into effect sort of being determined more at the local level, not coming from some sort of national recommendation. I think thats something that is really alerting people to what is happening here in the country. Obviously a lot of people hearing about italy and being reminded that in italy, back on february 2nd, there were sorry, february 20th, there were just a few cases and no deaths and then a couple of weeks later you have a couple thousand people who are infected and around 50 deaths. So how quickly this can change in a place and how social distancing measures may impact that i think is something that a lot of people are paying attention to. In addition to your excellent interview, john, with secretary azar, about the lack of testing still. We have been talking about this for weeks and constantly comparing our lack of testing or decreased testing compared to places like south korea where they have been doing thousands of tests a day. We still, according to our calculations at cnn, total in the country have done fewer than 6,000 tests still. So i think those are the some of the headlines people are hearing about today. Secretary azar was just on, john just interviewed him as you heard. So if we dont know how many people are getting tested, if the hhs doesnt know, cdc doesnt know, then how can we know how many people have the coronavirus . Well, there are probably different reporting procedures for did you test positive versus were you tested by i have a hard time believing that lab core and quest which have completely automated reporting systems, i can log in as a provider online and pull up a patients results. Im sure they can provide a total number of this many tests run, this many tested positive, this many tested negative, thats not a complicated thing to do. Wouldnt that be helpful for the government to know, to know what the coronavirus looks like in this country . Absolutely. We would want to know where are you seeing cases, where is testing being done, where is it not being done. That would help us target resources to the right places, especially in terms of hospital preparedness. We want to know where the cases are and were now hearing of n95 respirator shortages which makes our jobs impossible to do safely in the hospital. Talk to me about schools, sanjay, ohio State University is just the most recent school, college, big university, to cancel classes for a period of time. But there are middle schools, junior highs, high schools across the country closing as well. Why, given that we know that younger people are not at high risk here. They are not the ones getting very sick. Yeah, no, it is a good question. First of all that is true that younger people, thankfully, you know, seem to be insulated to some extent, protected from getting particularly sick from this. We dont know entirely why. But as we also talked about, they can still carry the virus in their bodies, they can potentially still shed the virus and be a source of infection. So i think there is really two reasons, first of all, those are large gathering places, big schools and big universities. And, you know, if there is an infection in an area like that, it can spread throughout a large gathering of people like that. And then they can go home or they can go be with a Vulnerable Group of people, and possibly spread the virus along. So this is really about trying to break that cycle of transmission and schools, you know, at least closing schools or closing them for a period of time and disinfecting them well could be a strategy to help break that cycle of transmission. And again, it is being decided on an ad hoc case by case basis. There is no federal mandate around this, but i think a lot of schools are being proactive in this regard. There are also schools where if someone tests positive, the school is more reactive to that saying were going to close down for a period of time, make sure the school is disinfected before we bring people back. It is the ad hoc federal response that is confusing to people. I hear people all the time, are they supposed to be taking Public Transportation or not . Here in new york, there are now more cases in new york state than anywhere else. The head of Port Authority, the huge Mass Transit System of new york city has just tested positive. Are people still supposed to be taking Public Transportation . Where are the instructions for people . Well, we heard coronavirus dot coronavirus. Gov announced yesterday. They are i think compiling a lot of that guidance there. It is a lot of the things we have been talking about. The hand washing, the social distancing, that sort of thing, but i do think one question i have in my mind is taking the new york city subway, it is hard to maintain sort of that two meter distance for people, maybe not so hard now because a lot of people arent taking the subway, some of those things are difficult to do. There is also on surfaces, those arent being wiped down every time people get on and off the train. I too take the subway. I look at the surfaces in a different way now than i used to. Again, we dont know what were should we all know what were doing or is this just the fog of war as we heard from dr. Fauci say yesterday . I think thats part of why this is different from the flu, for example, because there is so much we still dont know. We really are learning and going on by the seat of our pants because this is something new. This is something different. And there is still a lot that we need to learn. These are the some of the things theyre let me read those. Things like wash your hands and avoid crowding, great advice, what people should be doing, but tom bossert, Homeland Security adviser in the white house before, sanjay, said to the extent, a lot of this is like a light from a star, were now seeing something that was actually emitted some time ago. Yeah, yeah. And, look, i dont want to belabor this point, the fact we havent tested might make that light from the star further away here. The star may have already died and were just now seeing the light from it because were that far behind in testing here. What he also wrote in this oped for the washington post, i think is really important point, with regard to what they call these npis, nonpharmaceutical interventions, social distancing mechanisms, they can be effective. We have seen evidence of that historically, going back even to the spanish flu of 1918, two cities, philadelphia and st. Louis, he writes about, st. Louis had much lower rates of the flu compared to philadelphia because they took social distancing measures early. If you get beyond 1 , so on santa clara, city of around 2 million, if you get beyond 20,000 people infected, the social distancing, you know, measures, dont have as much of an impact. I see here, it says disinfect surfaces like door knobs, tables and handrails regularly. Im going to take that on for the new york city subway. Im going to be the person who does that starting this morning. Thank you, both, very much. Dr. Gounder and dr. Gupta. Yesterdays historic losses, julia chatterley live at the New York Stock Exchange with a preview, things looking up, but really after yesterday, not many places to go besides. A bounce after the plummet we saw yesterday, john, to your point. Not unexpected given the sheer scale of the fall we saw yesterday. The worst day in fact trading here since 2008. A couple of things i think allowing us to bounce, one, simply that we were so beaten up after yesterday. Also, the fact that we have seen a bit of a stabilization here in oil prices as well. You know, guys, we are looking at crazy volatility on a daily basis. So just to say were in the green at this stage premarket doesnt really give you much indication of where we go from here. I spoke to a guy earlier this week, a big money manager, he said the only thing that will stop this volatility is seeing peak cases, a stabilization in the numbers here in the United States. As you guys and i know pretty well at this stage, we look a fair distance away from that at this stage. Were also waiting for what President Trump can say about possible measures to support individuals who have been hit, impacted by the coronavirus outbreak, payroll tax cuts, perhaps some shortterm loans as well for small businesses. But already people are saying what is simply going to be possible and what congress will agree to today. Hope floats for now. But all i can promise you is volatility. Guys . Julia, thank you very much for that update. It changes every hour. We appreciate you being down there for us. New york state now has the most coronavirus cases. So well ask Governor Andrew Cuomo what is being done in response to this pandemic. Hes next. We see you trying and the effort is for real dont forget you could just show her how you feel. Make the moment mean more. Jared. I need all the breaks, that i can get. At liberty butchumal cut. Liberty biberty cut. Well dub it. 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Should we stop taking Public Transportation . If he contracted it, can the rest of us contract it . Well, first, the head of the Port Authority rick cotton, who is doing a phenomenal job, and hes a great friend, the Port Authority in new york supervises the airports. So he spent a lot of time at jfk airport, just at that time when all the flights were coming in, if you remember, and getting that initial situation under control, what flights were coming in, what people were being tested, et cetera. So he was really in the ground zero of the coronavirus outbreak. And hes remarkable guy, hes a hands on guy. We have a hands on government. And he was there himself. And he got exposed, our guess is, during that situation. But it is not emblematic of Public Transportation or anything else. Well, yes and no, governor. The reason i ask is because instruction seems so scatter shot for what the public is supposed to be doing. Im sure you know families, i know many, who dont know if theyre supposed to be flying right now and taking their family trips. Some are canceling them because, again, i understand what youre saying, that rick cotton is a hands on guy, but he was at the airport, a lot of us go through airports. Should we be going through airports right now . Yeah. Couple of points, alisyn, first, rick cotton was at the airport at the very beginning when people were coming back who were infected from countries all around the world. We didnt even know who was infected and who wasnt infected. In general, the lets remember the bottom line here, the vulnerable populations should be taking precaution. We have this mass fear, mass hysteria. It is the vulnerable population, senior citizens, yes. Think twice before getting on a plane. People with preexisting conditions, yes, think twice before going to a large gathering, a person with a compromised immune system, yes, think twice before getting on a flight, going to a gathering, Public Transportation, et cetera, those people, yes, general population, no. And also, alisyn, if we can, earlier interviews that i thought were very interesting. Remember what were doing as a society. There is only two ways to stop the spread of the virus, right . One is massive quarantine closedowns. Thats what china did italy now. Italy also. So people dont interact with each other. Thats strategy a. Strategy b is massive testing so you find people, you find who is positive, and then you isolate those people. Our country does not have the same capacity to do the massive testing that the other countries did. China, south korea, they were testing like 10,000 people per day, per day. Right. Were nowhere near that. What is our answer . So thats our challenge. Well, look, what im saying our answer is, we have to say to our federal government, you have to increase the Testing Capacity dramatically. And faster than we are now increasing the Testing Capacity. Lets look at china, lets look at south korea, their tests are not as good as ours. Okay. Even if thats true, they were doing 10,000 of them a day. And were doing a fraction of that. But, governor, i want to ask you and identifying the positive i want to ask you about Something Else we can do, one thing in our control and we see communities around do it, it is harder in new york, but thats the social distancing. Boston has just canceled its st. Patricks day parade. Should new york do that . Thats one of the things were looking at. And, look, in new york, we also have a cluster in Westchester County which is outside of new york city, and that is very intense cluster. So were taking more dramatic actions in that cluster, right. You calibrate your response to the time. And the facts and the circumstances in that place at that time. So parades, et cetera, we look at that on a daily basis. You might do that . Youre saying it is possible that we might see that happen here, the canceling of the st. Patricks day parade . Well, yeah, alisyn, what you will see is the numbers will continue to increase because they have increased. Our testing is lagging the reality. Were not testing enough people to know where it is. The more we test, the more positives youre going to find. People will think oh, my gosh, it is going up. No. It was going up anyway. You just have testing now that confirms what has been going on. That number will go straight up over time. Im worried that thats going to continue to fuel public anxiety which already is ahead of the virus, because, remember the bottom line, we talk about all this stuff, the testing, the quarantine, if you ar

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