Very druk drg that they want. The president is 73 years old, clinically obese, he has coronary artery disease, hes being treated for high clo lester ral. But hes been able to selfdiagnosis or ask the white house consider for an unproven treatment. More than that, why is he so proud of it . Why does he flaunt not wearing a mask . Why did he brag about shaking hands as long as he did . How are people who dont have a team of physicians attending to them going to be affected by this . Also breaking overnight, a 30day ultimatum from the president threatening to pull an all funding from the w. H. O. Citing they didnt do enough in december. But the president himself said in january, the United States greatly appreciates chinas efforts and transparency and he went on to thank chinas president. All right. Joining us now, we have cnn chief medical correspondent dr. Sanjay gupta and cnn medical analyst jonathan reiner. A proffer at George Washington university and was tic chadick s cardiologist. Dr. Reiner, im going to start with you because you were dick cheneys doctor because you understand how it works when a power person, a president or Vice President wants a drug that may or may not be proven . What is the protocol here, the fact that President Trump wanted to try it and the white house doctor said, well, okay if you if you want it, we can give it a shot. Good morning. I dont think it really worked that way. I think that what almost certainly happened is the president had a significant exposure to the virus, maybe multiple exposures since we know at least two people, his valet and ms. Kacatikatie miller test positive in a short period of time. So his exposure to the virus and the likelihood that he might contract is what this was based on. I dont think he went to the president , sean connelly, and said give me the drug. I think this was a detailed conversation. In his brief note last night, dr. Connelly mentioned that he had reached out to subject thought leaders around the down the ask about this. I think this was a very carefully considered move. But whats interesting to me is that this shows how concerned they were about the president contracting the virus. The other interesting thing to take about this drug despite the fact theres no Data Available yet think there well soon have some data, hes been taking it for ten days. Both of the major Clinical Trials which have evaluated this had only used it for four or five days. So why is he still taking the drug . Thats another unanswered question. We also dont know if Vice President pence is taking it. Right. Look, i think theres a bigger thing going on here, which is, first raufrl let of all, let me moment. The president isnt just taking hydroxychloroquine, hes bragging about it and preening about it. He was so excited to spring it on the press. So lets watch this moment. I was just waiting to see your eyes light up when i said this, but, you know, when i announce this. Ive taken it for about a week and a half now and im still here. Who cares what the presss faces look like when the president made that announcement . Only the president cares because its not about the science, its about owning the libs or making a statement. Its part and parcel of Something Else weve seen, the president proudly not wearing masks. The president bragging about not shaking hands. The president musing about injecting disinfectants. Lets play some more sound of that. Thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work, some of them go to work, but they get better. You cant be a politician and shake hands. When i come in when i leave ill be shaking hands with people. They want to say hello, hug you, kiss you, i dont care. You have to do that. I think wearing a face mask as a great president , prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens, i dont know, somehow i dont see it for myself. And then i see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute r, one minute, is there a way question do Something Like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Could be the testings, frankly, overrated. Maybe it is overrated. The point is, sanjay, that when youre the president , you cant just be concerned about your own health. You have to be concerned about the Nations Health here. And theres an impact to what he says and does. Its terribly irresponsible, it sets a bad example, and maybe even dangerous. It is dangerous, as people actually going out and doing some of these things. I think, you know, when it comes to, for example, the mask wearing, we now know that there are people required to wear masks. He still doesnt wear one. But that may have contributed to the exposure jonathan was talking about. Im sure it did contribute to the exposure. Had people been wearing masks, they probably wouldnt be in this situation. If, in fact, the president has had a significant exposure and now theyre a little panicked trying to figure out is there anything question do, its importa important to keep in mind several weeks, not months, theyve been talking about ways to mitigate that exposure. That the was not happening at the white house. I think its interesting with this hydroxychloroquine, dr. Connelly writes in his letter that we balance the evidence for and against hydroxychloroquine. There isnt any evidence to use it, as, again, jonathan mentioned, there is a study thats going to be forthcoming looking at it as a potential pro profa lax sis. That data is not there yet. It could be dangerous as a treatment and the president has underlying Heart Disease which may make him even more at risk. Again, i dont relish the decision or sort of the discussion, i think the president has had about this. I dont know how that discussion took place. Im not sure who prompted that discussion. But this is setting a really bad example. There will be people who go out and run for this medication that hoard it. There are actually people who need it for legitimate purposes. We saw this last time he talked about hydroxychloroquine. It is a complete unnecessary and potentially dangerous distraction. But, dr. Reiner, were talking about the president of the United States. By definition, his health affects all of us. And there are side effects to hydroxychloroquine. You dont just take this on a lark. There are i was just mentioning to john that i have a friend who took hydroxychloroquine a few years ago because she was going on a trip and would be exposed possibly to malaria. She said it caused the craziest dreams, horrible sleep, and i read that some of the side effects are mood swings. And so how would that not be affecting the president of the United States judgment . There are also psychological consequences or emotional of this drug. Right. I think well, i think the last thing we need is this president to have mood swings. But the drugs most consequential side effect is a malignant cardiac arrhythmia that can kill you. Now, the white house doesnt doesnt really use the kinds of rules that we use out in the community. They have access 24hour access to their patient and they can do things that docs in the community cant do. So they have ways of actually mitigating that risk. I agree with sanjay completely. This drug is unproven and the data that we have suggest that it doesnt work or can be harmful. So no one in this country should use it in the manner the president is using it. But the white house medical unit obviously made a calculated decision that they considered his risk of taking the drug to be lower than his risk of potentially contracting the virus. And my calculations, i think his rirv risk based on all of the comorbidities you mentioned in the leadin, he has a 20 to 50 of dying from this virus should he contract it and they most certainly did a calculus and felt that the odds favored him taking it without any clear efficacy data to support that. Very unusual, but it does speak to how worried they were about him last week. Thats a separate issue, right . How scared he actually is of getting sick. And we know hes a germaphobe here. We knew he blew up at people behind the scenes when he found out people in the white house were sick. Sanjay, we also know something at least about the president s health. Hes a large man, as nancy pelosi whos not a doctor, mind you, nancy pelosi pointed out last night to anderson. Listen to this. Hes our president and i would rather he not be taking something that has not been approved by the scientists, especially in his age group and in his, shall we say, weight group . But morbidly obese they say. So i think its not a good idea. Now, i understand, sanjay, hes only clinically obese, not morbidly obese, but hes overweight. As you have noted now for some time, there are issues with his heart that should raise questions. Yeah, i mean, and i think this is, again, the point that jonathan is making, that he is a vulnerable patient in this regard. Given his age, given his preexisting conditions of Heart Disease, obesity is a significant risk factor for people having worse outcomes with this infection. We saw this in all the data coming out of china and in europe and now the United States. So, yes, this is this is i mean, and so maybe that was the reason they said, look, well do whatever we can to try and, you know, see if we can prevent him from getting the disease by even using an unproven medication in this case. Youre absolutely right. So i dont know how they calculated it, how they sort of made this decision. I dont think its the right decision, i dont think he should be taking this medication. Again, i think the most Important Message is probably to everyone else out there that this is an unproven, potentially dangerous medication. The president should not be taking it. You should not be taking it. Studies are stig ll ongoing as p profa lax sis medication. Well see what the studies show. But he should not be taking it and other people should not either. I understand why youre doing that warning, sanjay, because a couple weeks ago when the president suggested that maybe people should inject bleach because maybe that would do some inside cleaning right. The calls to hotlines, dr. Reiner, spiked. The calls to medical crisis, you know, overdose hotlines in perms of peop terms of people asking if they should take bleach and consider drinking bleach went up. Now it just stands to reason that doctors are going to be fielding calls today about hydroxychloroquine and is this something that prophylactically other americans you think should or will start trying. Well, i hope not. We know from pharmacy data actually from two months ago when the president first mentioned this that a few hours after he spoke about this prescriptions spiked 40 fold. So his words have consequences. So i do expect people are going to be asking about this. But to what the president said about Frontline Health care workers are taking this, there isnt a single Frontline Worker that i know who is taking this drug. Not a single we have. I have, just to be clear, we have spoken to people who have been treating people with coronavirus who have tried it and also have prescribed it some time ago. Early on, i will say, before some of these studies and whatnot came back. And the studies are what matters here. I also think look, im not going to bring you into this discussion, youre doctors and scientists. I think theres a big part of this discussion that has nothing to do with science and the president telegraphed that yesterday when he said he wanted to see the look on the reporters faces. Hes bringing this up beyond medicine is. That to distract from the 90,000 dead people on the screen . Is it to distract from an expector general report or purge . I dont know. Well talk about that later. Sanjay, the who, the president sent a letter giving a 30day ultimatum to pull all u. S. Funding permanently. Among the things hes critical of is transparency in china which has not been strong, issues early on with china in reporting coronavirus and the spread. However, as we have noted before, the president himself praised china for its transparency in january. Right. And so its one of these situations where i think that theres going to probably need to be a significant postmortem, if you will, regarding the w. H. O. And what happened specifically with china. Because i agree, you know, weve learned about things late out of china, much later than we should have. Weeks late and we know that weeks make a huge difference in the midst of a pandemic. I think the question is, is now the right time to be really going after the w. H. O. . Because were still in the middle of this thing. Other countries are very dependent, probably more dependent on the w. H. O. Than we are, countries that have disenfranchised health care systems, theyre going to need that and were going to need the data coming out of those countries in order to best sort of, you know, have an effective effort against this pandemic. So ultimately, you know, i think the idea of punishing the w. H. O. Right now probably also ends up punishing us. An infection anywhere is an infection everywhere. And the w. H. O. Still, in addition to the Clinical Trials theyre doing, as best vision on these countries around the world. They have you know, they have not been stellar on this, as we all know. They declared this late. We declared this a pandemic earlier than the w. Hoh. O. Did. But everyone in the world needs a w. H. O. At this point. Okay. We really appreciate all of your expertise helping us understand where we are. Thank you very much. My pleasure. Up next, a personal story pay the young boy battling severe symptoms tied to coronavirus, today he is home from the hospital but it has been a rough road. He is alive thanks, in part, to his big brother. Well speak to the boys father about their story next. Adversity came to town and said, show me what youre made of. So we showed it our people, sourcing and distributing more fresh food than anyone. Our drivers helping grocers restock their shelves. 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Say add hulu into your voice remote to keep up with the hulu shows everyones been talking about. New this morning, the cdc is warning of a rise in a mysterious inflammatory condition in children weeks after they get coronavirus. 8yearold boy went into cardiac arrest. He was saved by his older brother who performed cpr. He was later found to have coronavirus antibodies. Joining us now is jadens father. Thank you very much for being with us. The first thing i want to ask you is how is jaden, 8 years old, doing this morning . He has for the past four or five days home, he has come a very far way. He came home, he wasnt saying much. He wasnt able to walk. We used to take him to the restroom. Yesterday jaden was able to get up on his own, use the restroom. Hes also able to bring out more words strongly. I know as a parent im really interested in speaking with you and parents of kids everywhere want to know what they should look for here. Because this really is a new concern. And you say jaden had a fever for a few days, this is about a month ago. It went away and then what happened . Right after the fever, he started to have diarrhea. Now, the diarrhea was a attributed from his pediatrician because he wasnt eating. And at that point we thought he would have come around. We start to give him peda light, which was advised to us, and we also tried to start jello and crackers, give it to him. We saw him coming around, but that didnt really happen. He eventually end up into cardiac arrest. And it was his brother whos a scout who used cpr to save him, thats a whole other story. Kudos to you and your whole family for raising two such wonderful sons on that. But walk us through how this affected jadens body from the time he went into cardiac arrest through his stay in the hospital till now. I would say he has lost a lot of weight. And going into the cardiac arrest, im sure that are was a scary situation for him. He doesnt know right now what really went on that day. We havent spoke much about it. But today at home he is very small, we can say he lost a good 20 pounds out of this. Back up his strength is coming back and his voice is coming back and thats the most important for us right now. Thats what we worry about. His heart is of concern because we were told that from the doctors that he was diagnosed with something called rugada syndrome. I dont know the detail of it but its something with your heart getting overworked and would go into an irregular beat. And as a result, they have implanted a defib brew lator which will help him if he ever get into this condition again. Youre like me when doctors talk to me about things my kids have, i just nod and smile, i dont understand half the words there. Some parents have talked about rashes in their kids, other symptoms that come about from this inflammatory syndrome. Have you seen any of that . You know, interestingly in jadens case we saw none of this. And thats thats the thats the point the situation where we have docs questions. Why he doesnt have none of this. Because thats those are some of the typical signs that theyre seeing. But in jadens case, the only sign we had was the initial fever, then the fever went away. So he never had things together. He had the fever, it went away. Then his diarrhea came, and, you know, its like a single condition every time. So its not the typical virus signs that we were seeing. And, again, he never tested positive for having coronavirus or covid19, but after the fact he does have the antibodies, which indicates that somewhere along the way he had it, correct . Yeah. And thats thats what we are concerned about. He tested positive for the antibody. I d