Increasingly looks like the story of the summer. The man behind me donald trump. The president ial campaign hes running, if it were a reality show it would be scoring recordhigh ratings. Polls showing more and more support for the billionaire. News rooms are sending more and more reporters to Trump Campaign events like this rally in phoenix last night. Some commentators well you can hear the surprise in their voices. They dont know what to think. Two examples from msnbc and fox this morning. I used to say hell stop whatever he has to file that form. Hell shut this thing down. Im getting the sense this thing has gotten more traction than he was expecting. Im wondering. This thing is bigger than anybody thought it would be. The question i think really is the buzz is actually a good thing this early on. Still a long way to iowa or new hampshire. Or is the sound of the buzz a chain saw . I dont think fox knows how to cover this campaign. Two things are happening. There is a growing sentiment that the press should not be covering trump the way it is should not be involved in what is basically an epic trolling of the president ial primary process. There is a growing sense that trump is reshaping the whole race challenging the republican establishment, exciting the base and writing a chapter of the 2016 story that almost nobody expected. Now, everybody has an opinion about trump. A few people really know him like my next guest, michael cohen. Executive Vice President and special counsel of the trump organization. As one of trumps top advisers are you seeing the stream of Campaign Coverage a rejoicing or is this hurting his business somehow . Donald trump is a megabillionaire. When he releases his financials youre going to see just how wealthy he actually is. He is not worried about these ancillary businesses or these spineless individuals that want to run away from him. What he is interested in is simply making America Great again. That is his message. Weve heard the message. You say spineless. Are you talking about nbc, univision, macys . Im talking about them and all the others. You hear that. These are major corporations that have distanced themselves from trump. It must be hurting the bottom line at this point. I dont think mr. Trump is worried about the bottom line. What hes worried about, again, is his message, which is to make America Great again. He is worried about the veterans. Hes worried about national security. He is worried about Social Security medicare medicaid. Hes worried about many different things. One thing he is not worried about is the small dollars that are coming in as a result of these relationships. Let me play a sound bite from you from earlier this morning on state of the union on cnn. I think hes uninformed about the situation regarding the illegal immigrant population. I think he has highjacked the debate. I think he is a wrecking ball for the future of the Republican Party with the Hispanic Community and we need to push back. A wrecking ball . Michael, any reaction to that . Im not sure what Lindsey Graham is saying. I dont think anybody cares what hes saying, to be honest with you. Donald trump has hit a chord. Even from yesterday in arizona, what was supposed to be a thousandperson event turned out to be a 20,000. The silent majority has been awoken. Mr. Trump will talk about, there is a Real Movement out there, and the one thing donald trump is is he is authentic. He is not going to have individuals tell him what to say. He is not going to poll individuals before releasing what he believes is necessary in order to make this country great again. That is i think we can agree, first of all, every candidate wants america to be great again. A lot of candidates already think america is great. That slogan doesnt say much. Its like cotton candy, isnt it . Make America Great again. I dont think so brian. I think donald trump is authentic to that message. You mentioned 20,000 people being there the other you mentioned 20,000 people being there. There were not 20,000 people in phoenix. I know donald trump said that on twitter. The venue was supposed to hold 4,000 people. The New York Times says less than 10,000. How can we believe this man could be commander in chief if he cant even get his facts straight . Whether its 5,000, 10,000 or 20,000, its a complete sellout. That actually matters, whether its 5,000 or 20,000. It matters a lot. Why does it matter . What you see is a movement. You see a movement of people that are angry. Theyre angry with the alltalknoauction policy of our career politicians. Donald trump is not beholding to anyone. He is not asking anyone like lobbyists or the big Financial Institutions for money. He is doing this from his own pocket and hes doing it for a purpose. I think we can all agree there is a lot of anger out there and that hes tapping into some of the anger. I wonder for you, who works with him every day and gives him advice how do you plan a strategy or a campaign for a guy like donald trump . Seems like he doesnt have prepared remarks or a scripted speech. He just says whatever is on his mind. Is it hard to work with a guy like that . How can you possibly plan a campaign . Thats what makes donald trump authentic. Thats why he resonates with the people. He doesnt have prescripted speeches that people spend two, three weeks on polling in order to find out, well if you say this its going to resonate well in your poll numbers. Here is the bottom line. Donald trump is right now at the top of the republican candidate. He is polling number one. Some say he is by himself. Others say that hes with jeb bush. What hes saying is resonating with the people. The people are tired. Were all tired of the all talk no action policy of our career politicians. I think Donald Trumps honest open authentic message is what the American People are looking for. You mentioned the polls where he is number one. I would add one caveat. Those have been online polls. Cnn goes with telephone polls. Hes polling next to jeb bush in the telephone polls. Well see more polls in the coming days that seem to show momentum from donald trump. My last question is whether you agree with his critique with the press, he was calling the press terrible last night. He loves to mock reporters. Yet arent reporters giving him attention and helping him rise higher in the polls . Of course theyre giving him attention because he creates ratings. Thats what donald trump does. What donald trump is angry about is there was a statement that was made regarding mexico and every liberal media outlet jumped on it and they switched it from mexico meaning the government to the mexican people. And that was absolutely unfair. It was dishonest. And its created a swell of media attention. And in all fairness is backfired on them because, again, hes polling number one. It certainly appears to be creating this Ground Movement by people who are angry with the way our politicians are dealing with our open borders. Michael, i appreciate you being here. Thanks for taking the time this morning. Very nice to speak to you. He creates ratings. I like that line from michael. Continuing on the theme of people who know trump, i want to bring in kate bohner the coauthor of the book trump. You spent two years with him a while ago. You were looking at these pictures saying he doesnt seem to have aged one bit. He looks exactly the same. That was 1996 and 1997. The book came out in october of 97. Tell me your reactions to michael. Also your commentary as well. It sounds eerily familiar. I came in after what he calls the depression of 2000, 2003 in real estate. I remember the story where he told me that he and marla were walking down fifth avenue and saw a homeless person panhandling. Donald threw a five into the cup and said he is richer than me. Ill never forget the story because it set the framework for the book. And the ten lessons. He was very humble at that time. Humble i know. Nobody is going to believe me. He was certainly one thing michael says is that he is authentic. I think we can all agree to that. Even if he changes his story. Pro choice now hes pro life . All those changes . I think he is a very passionate person. Thats what my experience was with him. He has an opinion on everything. Sometimes its exhausting. Its kind of daunting to try to get it all down as coauthor. There is a way in which im not surprised that he changes his mind because he is so passionate an overingeverything that he talks about. I thought it was also interesting about, does he listen to his advisers . My experience in the 90s was trump he employs an army of lawyers, right. But there are four or five people that he listened to and that were in his inner circle that he i was in the inner circle as his coauthor but i wasnt an adviser by any means. Is that a problem for him, that he isnt taking the advice other candidates would be taking saying things that advisers wouldnt want him to be saying . You have to have a strom stomach with work with trump. He is challenging. He is a man of his own mind. One of the things, brian is that we all think outrageous things. I do. Ill admit we do it too. Sure. One of these crazy parades, you have to get across town. But we dont actual lily say them. We surround ourselves with colleagues friends, relationships. You probably have a concierge who you run everything by. A few of them. Sure. Mr. Trump listens to advice. He listens to what people have to say. But in the end he does whatever in my experience he does whatever he wants to do says whatever he wants to. He used the term wrecking ball which i thought was tough, in the interview. Lets say he likes to make a splash. Do you have advice for the press out there covering donald trump every day . My advice is cover him every day. Dont take a breather. This is from having written his book. I had to be on it every single day to get the fluctuations in terms of his messaging. That is my advice. Dont give up and dont let up. Thanks for being here kate. Thanks so much. Lets turn to one of the reporters covering trump. There is one angle being overlooked. The miss usa pageant. It was the First Casualty of his campaign. The pageant crowns a new winner tonight, but you wont see it on nbc or univision because both networks dumped the broadcast after trumps comments about immigrants last month. It will air on reelz. Its hard to find on the dial. Athena jones is in baton rouge, louisiana, where we thought trump would be. But there has been a lastminute change in schedule . Thats right. Trump tweeted last night he wont be coming. I believe we have it. He said i will not be able to attend the miss usa pageant tomorrow night. I am campaigning in phoenix. Wishing all well. Weve reached out to the truch campaign about what events he has scheduled in phoenix or elsewhere in arizona or the west and havent heard back about that. As recently as the end of last month, june 30th. He said while on the campaign trail and in a statement he released that he would be here to support the contestants. So this is a big change. Brian. Perhaps he is seeing this issue of immigration, seeing the crowds hes able to have near the border and wanting to continue to play into that. Perhaps its a matter of this pageant being a side show from his Main Campaign story. Perhaps it is. As you mentioned, now that nbc and univision dropped the pageant. Reelz picked it up. Thats a small cable channel. We asked the organizers how it came about and whether theyre concerned about the smaller audience. They said they were talking to reelz within two days after the pageant was dropped by the other networks. They told me it might have been the quickest tv Licensing Agreement reached in history. This is a familyowned company. They were able to make the decision fast. The ceo said this is not political. He sees this pageant as Pure Entertainment and he also says he doesnt like what trump had to say. He agrees with what macys and univision and nbc has done. He called trumps comments about immigrants quote, ridiculous. There will be no trump on the red carpet or on the stage today, brian. I have a feeling reporters will be asking about him, though. Athena thanks for being here. Up next talking more about univision. It was the First Network to drop miss u. S. Sa. Univision has a clear point of view about immigration. 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Some republican candidates avoid it because they believe its biased against gop and conservative proposals on immigration. Where does the network find itself in this mix . The perfect person to ask is one of the most prominent anchors at univision. Nightly anchor at univision, maria elena salinas. Thank you for joining me. Its my pleasure. Talking about Spanish Language and immigration. We talk about donald trump. He is suing univision. How does that affect their coverage of trump. Were covering trump the way trump is being covered by everyone. Its of special interest to our audience because of some of the derogatory comments he made the day he launched his campaign were directed at part of our audience if not all of our audience. One thing i think people need to understand is that you cant have it both ways. You cant say i support immigrants as long as theyre legal but i dont support illegal aliens. By the way, we dont use the word illegal because a human being is not illegal. A human being is undocumented. We come from the same region. We have the same blood. We have the same ancestors and some had a better opportunity to cross the border than others. So for hispanic voters many of which have parents, grandparents that maybe arrived illegally. Maybe they themselves were here illegally at one point or they have friends or family members that are now here in this country without documents, this is a personal attack. So you cannot separate them. You cant have it both ways. I know that trump has done interviews with univision and other Spanish Language media. If you could ask him anything, what would you be asking him right about now . You know to be honest with you, i dont know that i want to interview donald trump because it would be a very predictable interview. The interviews that i have seen with him, some of the answers just dont make any sense. So what can you ask him . Even if you tell him the truth and give him facts, i dont expect that he is going to expect those facts. He has his own facts. The Fact Checkers must be having a field day, especially this past week. Im interested in how univision covers the topic of immigration. Its different than how english Language Networks do. Let me put a quote on the screen from a Martin Omalley adviser. Theyll talk about immigration. Number one, do you think thats true . Number two what do you think that signifies about the hispanic audience . Yes, its true. If we have an opportunity to speak to any president ial candidate, immigration will definitely be one of the topics. Not the only topic. Hopefully theyll give us more han than five minutes to talk about other things. The even though the spanish electorate does care about jobs and economy, they care about education, they care about health care they care very much also about immigration. Not because they have an immigration problem. Because voters are u. S. 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