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CNNW Reliable Sources July 24, 2016

Conditi convention, even though shes a leader of the democratic party. Amid fallout from the emails revealed in the dnc leaks controversy this week. If youre not familiar with what im talking about, lets get an explanation from jeff. Lets start with exactly who its going to be taking her position as the Permanent Convention chair . Brian, congresswoman marsha fudge, shes a democrat of ohio, she has been selected by Party Leaders as the convention chair, she will be the one welcoming the delegates, she will be the one gaveling it in and out, the business section of the convention, she will be a visible role here, shes a strong supporter of the Clinton Campaign and this is all coming in response to an uproar over the reports of leaks from the Democratic National committee from staffers who were favoring the Clinton Campaign over the Bernie Sanders campaign. Now this was coming just as the peace accord was really being reached between the Clinton Campaign and the Sanders Campaign on the eve of the convention here, but the release of these emails, the leaked emails clearly questions sanders, his capability for office have blown up that piece of work. Statements from the Clinton Campaign and from the white house are urging debby wasser man schultz to not be seen here at the convention. I have been told by party officials, Party Sources that she is not inclicned to do this al this point. How are things for her on the eve of the convention . It certainly is an embarrassment for her, she has with stood a lot of controversy during her time at the dnc, so she was going to try and get through this convention, but it definitely is a black eye on the party and the Convention Going into what they were hoping would be a united convention, so thats what theyre ftrying to o here, taking care of this before the Convention Starts tomorrow. This is internal party business, this is not something most voters in america probably are concerned about or even aware of whats happening, but in terms of the, just the idea of a party chairwoman, the leader of the party not being on hand at a historic convention, where the first woman is to be nominated to be president is pretty extraordinary, but theyre trying to clean up this internal mess, this family feud if you will before the Convention Begins tomorrow. Cnn senior washington correspondent, thank you very much. Coming up later this hour and also next hour on state of the union, we will have more on this leak controversy. Obviously this week here at the wells fargo arena. Theres something happening outside this hall that could have just as big an impact on what happens this weekend. Roger ailes, the founder father of fox news out of a job, this is more than just an executive shakeup, its the end of anger are. Before he resigned on thursday, ailes with arguably the most powerful man in media. He reshaped television and politics, in some ways merging the two, by teaching president s richard nixon, Ronald Reagan and george h. W. Bush on how to use tv. And then joining to launch fox news. With fox, ailes upended cable news, you might say he ran a permanent campaign, supporting conservative values, an antidote to what he called liberal media bias, he called the channel fair and balanced others called it a cynical manipulation, but theres no denying fox and ailes changed u. S. Media, thats why hes cheered by some, but reviled by some who will be at the convention this week. Thursday as ailes along time friend donald trump steps up, ailes steps down. The question is will the two men now team up to defeat Hillary Clinton . This morning we have special coverage of this historic week in media, including an interview with a reporter who saw this coming, plus one of ailes potential successors and my brand new reporting of whats next for ailes and whats next for fox. Some analysis youre not going to hear on fox news today. With former fox news contribute for jane hall, the cnn political commentator and trump supporter jeffrey lloyd. When you take stock of roger ailes legacy and his affect on media, do you think we would have a gop without roger ails . I think roger ailes did do the media what donald trump did to the political process, he found what the economists called a marked inefficiency, and audience was not being served, that had come to believe after 30 years of argument on the part of the right, that the main stream media as a whole was unfair. And its a mark of his success, not just the enormous profits, that here you have a Company Owned by a very prominent right wing media tycoon, run by a guy who was a republican operative much of his life and they can call themselves fair and balanced and they have a large audience that says, yes, you are. When i have been reporting, i have often been told i only talk to fox news, at places Like Tea Party rallys, thats what he did, he had an enormous impact. What was your personal reaction to this news of ailes resigning under pressure . Did you ever think he would leave in a circumstance like this . No, i actually think its a good day for women in fox news and also for women in television, you know, i hesitated actually to write about my time on fox news because i did not experience this personally. And its sad to me that all these women who were coming forward, since i wrote my piece, if these allegations are true, there was a culture there and a fear of reprisals that i hope this is significant that fox has moved to have a man who is making a billion dollars a year for them, step down. Now how far away he goes, is one question i have. But i do think that he had an enormous impact. I think that you would not have donald trump without roger ailes because he created a bifurcated media environment that put pressure on cnn to have, even during the iraq war, they called people unpatriotic, they said Hillary Clinton is a crook, obama is soft on terrorism. Theres been an absolute alliance of this network and he is such a brilliant man they have been enormously successful at painting everybody else as unfair and fox as fair and unbalanced. Ailes has repeatedly and vehemently denied the allegations, even as more women have come forward, both on the record and anonymously. Lets explore this point about trump a little bit more with jeffrey lord. Talking with chuck todd about the possibility that trump could actually seek guidance and advice from roger ailes. Heres the clip. Roger ailes, is he helping you . Is he advising you . I dont want to comment, but hes been a friend of mine for a very long time. And i can tell you, some of the women that are complaining i know how much hes helped them and recently, when they write books and they say wonderful things about him and now all of a sudden theyre saying these horrible things about him. Its very sad. Because hes a very good person. I have always found him to be a very, very good person. And by the way, a very, very talented person, look what hes done. So i feel badly. But a lot of people feel hes going to run my campaign. My campaign is doing pretty well. The realty is ailes and trump speak all the time. They were counseling this week i am told. I have no inside information on this, but sure, its certainly possible. You know as someone who worked for Ronald Reagan, let me recall that Ronald Reagan lost his first debate to walter mondale, did very badly, they were very concerned about the second debate. They called in roger ailes who sat the president down and stayed mr. President , forget the details, you are a person of themes, relate every question to one of your themes. He did that and he won the debate and roger ailes scored again. Hes very, very good at campaigns and donald trump could do a lot worse than getting advice from roger ailes. When you think about the impact of fox news its had an enormous impacts, an absolutely enormous impact for the good. Heres the question, brian, george harrison, the late beetle had an album, called all things must pass and whether roger ailes was leaving fox because of this Sexual Harassment business, or whether he just retired in a new years, the thing is with media companies, any company, somebody brings the theme to life and then he passes this is now the transition time for fox news. This is inevitably what happens, roger ailes and Rupert Murdock will eventually pass from the scene and theyll hand it on to others and well see what they do with it. Can someone pick up the reins from roger ailes or will fox news really be challenged without him . Fox news is a hybrid, its not monolithic, youve got real news peoplelike chris wallace, brett baier. You have megaphones to the right like sean hannity, and then youve got fox and friends, the only thing about which i can ca youve got the Rupert Murdock sons, are saying do we want to alienate some of your audience . Youve smpbl got when the Founding Fathers and certainly mother s pass on and only time will tell. Speaking of someone whos covered fox for decades, and speaking of one of its rival channels cnn, i dont see fox suffering at least in the immediate term as a result of this. Lets not loses sight of that allegations, what this means for women in television newsrooms. Roger ailes has denied the allegations, is it your take away that fox news, even through the years you worked there, is a toxic workplace for female employees . As i said in my piece to the New York Times, i can only speak to what i saw on the air, and i cringed when i saw women in very short skirts, next to a fully clothed male anchor, and i did not experience that. And i was allowed to say what i thought of fox news on our little media show until i felt that there was a heavy thumb coming down on us and they didnt feel the need for debate. So i cant speak to a work environment. I can only say that these women who are now coming forward said they feared reprisals and women in general have been required i mean you cant say this means they were sexually harassed, but women, quote unquote, knowing that they needed to dress a certain way, is demeaning to women, and it has become i think something that people may now look at and go, gee, maybe we shouldnt have that, and the younger murdocks took these charges seriously, i mean this is a lawsuit thats been filed. Somebody talked about it, you know, as was this a frat boy atmosphere. Again i didnt see it, but i saw on the air, something that i hope well see less of, which is women looking at a situation where they do not have the power that the man whos fully clothed next to them does. Its a symbolic thing, but i think its important. Are three js here, thank you all for being here this morning. There are more questions about this story. 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Made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. Whats up for the next shift . Ah, nothing much. Just keeping the lights on. laugh nice. Doing the big things that move an economy. See you tomorrow, mac. See you tomorrow, sam. Just another day at norfolk southern. Welcome back to reliable sources, live from philadelphia, sultry temperatures today. Lots of reporters, thousands of them entering the arena here, and the Party Started little bit earlier, during the commercial break there, just a few balloons falling from the arena, the wells fargo center, where this convention will officially start tomorrow. Journalists of course all over this place already as final preparations are made for the convention. Were talking about roger ailes resignation today, a seismic week in media. If you think back to 15 days before ailes resigned, thats when Gretchen Carlson sued ailes for he said the company would undertake an internal review, that review from an external law firm found other allegations of harassment, some because they had nondisparagement clauses which for bided them to speak against roger ailes. Megyn kelly has said that she was harassed also. They decided he had to be let go. So on thursday, ailes tendered his resignation, under pressure and faces the possibility of being fired. This was a media world earth quake and the aftershocks are still being felt. Here to walk us through the effects is media reporter dylan buyers, and Gabriel Sherman whos is National Affairs editor for gabe, let me start with you, you were alone and out front on this story, you reported that ailes was going to be leaving earlier in the week, you said the murdocks had made a decision, frankly other reporters were able to match that. Do you believe that you played a part in ailes departure, were you receiving leaks from the murdocks perhaps trying to force him out of the media outlet he founded . What i can say is that this was really something that the murdock family once they realized the scope of this Sexual Harassment allegations decided that they had to get roger ailes out of the company, the question was not if but when, and i decided the reporting was solid enough to go with the fact that they had made that decision. The murdock sons wanted to remove roger ailes, they grabbed on to these itses as a pretext to remove ailes, do you think thats true. There probably may be some truth to that but theres possible a cynical reading of it because we cant really dismiss these allegations, they are frankly shocking and were learning more and more every day, i have reported this morning, that more than 25 fox news women have gone to the law firm paul weis to describe episodes of Sexual Harassment. And the murdocks, whatever their feels about roguer ailes, when this was going to become public, there was nothing else they could do but get him out of the country. You and i were in cleveland, covering fox news all week. Do you think the report of megyn kelly reporting that she was harassed, that ailes tenure was over . I dont think it was a turning point from a legal stand appointment, you look at the sheer numbers of people who have accused roger ailes of harassment or mistreatment. And the murdock brothers were going to have to move to do something. First you had Gretchen Carlson coming forward making her allegations and you had a slew of fox news talent coming to roger ailes defense. But you didnt have someone within the network, a powerful talent within the network making these accusations, so as soon as the report came out about megyn kelly, in terms of the public analysis, that played a big role. Whether the murdocks used this as sort of a pretext to get rid of roger ails, i think the i certainly know that, James Murdock and roger ales arent best of friends, this guy was running an incredible business for them, this guy was bringing in a billion dollars a year in cash flow, in free profit. The murdocks are fundamentally Business People and i dont think they were ready to cause chaos at a network that was bringing in a billion dollars in profit. Its a business story, rarely in Corporate America do we see 15 days like this. Let me bring in our former colleague at the New York Times, they spoke to nearly a dozen women who alleged harassment. Is that where this story is now going, that it was not just ailes who would be departing but other executives as well . It sounds like a possibility, names are being put out there who are also in the position of harassing women. But it does go to the issue of whether there was a culture created. One of the things that was said about fox news was that it created a separate universe, that you could that universe, in that universe, which was very male oriented, it was you know, people were not supposed to be politically correct, that was like a sign of weakness,nd i think there was an awful lot of that inside that culture. I think one thing thats bad about this for women, is if you were a Woman Working at fox and many did very well there, you have questions over

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