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CNNW Reliable Sources With Brian Stelter February 2, 2020

The News Coverage reminds me of this guy. Yes, this guy. Today is ground hog day, perfect timing. Just as bill murray relives the same day over and over again in the classic 1993 film. It seems like we are going to relive this political dynamic. What did we learn of the senate trial . Stone walling works. Those leaks coming from john boltons fourth coming book, they did not change many senators minds . We learned democrats are effective. They were all over fox news trying to win in the Public Opinion everyon though they wer losing inside the chamber. Those same outlets kept them falling off. They protected trump and gop leaders to stick to party lines. Thats what this is all about. At the same time they focused on the biden family. It is all about scandalizing and minimizing. Right wing post minimalize trumps misconduct and scandalize his opponents. You will keep hearing it for as long as biden is on the campaign trail. Lindsey graham vows to keep it going. He says this is just the beginning of oversight of the bidens. What have we learned . We have learned that two americas are coexisting, uneasily in two totally different universes. What you learn dependant on what you read and what you cared about the most. Chris murphy wrote about this at the New York Times. This trial in so many ways crystallized the completely diametrically opposed steps. Republicans perceive the deep state and the liberal media to be a threat for the country. That contrast had been growing for the last three years. This trial really crystallized that difference. Republicans thought about the deep state of the media conspiracy. We thought it was about the president s crimes. Is murphy right . Lets begin to talk about it with our incredible selection of guests beginning with the professor of cnn analyst, julian delzer and sam donaldson, he was at the white house during the clinton impeachment as well. Sam, your reaction to the end of the trump impeachment. Well, we do it this way. There is no surprise here. From the beginning nancy pelosi was right. Lets not have an impeachment thats not going nowhere thanks to the republican senators. I think what happens this coming week, theyre going to vote and acquit him and hes going to trumpeted that his victory is sincere and complete. Thats where we are. Julian, is that what history going to say . One it is an important chapter in the i mperial presidency. At the same time well see where partisanship brought the republican party. This is a story not just about President Trump. It is about the republicans in the senate who lived with this and they accepted this and they protected the president. Well remember that a hundred years from now. What are the top media take aways of how this trial has been covered . One thing i am troubled by discussing this is it is a both sides problem. You have a right wing media apparatus and depens ds you get your news. I think we have a propaganda apparatus and trying to tell the truth and what i think is fascinating is how much the right wing apparatus has become so prime, it is now repeating the kind of trumps play book of lies and misinformation like the quote you had on the screen, you know, minimized, denied and essentially project what you are doing onto someone else and to see how tremendous that effect has been to see not only right wing media but republican senators and politicians also jump on board. It is terrifying. I dont know where we go from there to come to this kind of universal national agreed upon. Do you think chris murphy has a point when the senator says, everybody is afraid of something in this situation. Democrats are afraid of President Trump and republicans are afraid of the deep state and conspiracy. Thats real. Murphy is right, is he . I think hes absolutely right. When you look at which fears are legitimate. Democrats are looking at, we have a president who i think is honestly quite hard to deny done some series acts of wrong doing in office. You have republicans who are sort of invented deep state and liberals that are undermining our values and i am grammigrant are coming in. There are so much, trying to win on this politics of fear of change where as democrats are looking at the state of the country and saying how can we make sure that our public maintain its values and live our obligation to our constitution. Both sides fear something. Those fears are not equally legitimate. Donaldson, whats your advice for the press . The press has to keep on doing its job. The press trying to find exafac. The harold tribune took the facts and said they mean this and New York Times took the same facts and said no, it mean that is and we had an argument. Today we still have journalists who still look for facts and occasionally make mistakes and put them out to the public, please look at this and use them. Facebook, non journalists are putting out the same type of propaganda based on nothing. There is no equivalency. A lot of this news came out of the news. They shut down the information gathering process. Thats what happened. They did not want to hear the information. Parnas interviews and the story of bolton reminds us that the press is still playing the watergate role. Everybody standby, i want to get to london. Police are confirming a man had been shot by an armed officer and what they are calling a terrori terrorist incident. The man who was shot, the suspected terrorist had been announced dead. A number of people have been stabbed and circumstances are being assessed. I mention this person was shot dead and there are images of him dead on the street. We have this from the police as well saying there had been two other injuries. 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There will be campaign ads during tonights big game and a preshow chat between President Trump and han hannity. Barack obama started this tradition more than a deck dade ago and trump kept it going and with bill oreilly back he was still on fox. So the job usually goes to news anchor. Yes, oreilly at least kept a little distance and asked trump some difficult question. Hannity is different. He and trump are allies and buddies and collaborators. Thats why he landed so many of foxs interviews with President Trump. This right now is a Pivotal Moment for hannity to be sitting down with the president. Lets bring my guests back in. We have a clip from the chat and well get to that in a moment. Sam, to you the notion that the president s first big interview after the senate decides no to call additional witnesses is going to be with sean hannity, how does that sit with you, sam . What a witchs brew we have here. Nothing like this like the roman circus and what we have is exactly that. I think people who are watching may still be in the middle, neither one side or the other will say whats happening here . Whos this . It is a strange fellow. They may not vote for him. Thats interesting. I dont have any expectations that hannity is going to ask tough questions. There was a clip this morning. Hannity doing a lightning round with trump naming various people and having trump make fun of them. Here is a clip of michael bloomberg. Very little. Now he wants a box for the debate to stand on. Okay. It is okay. There is nothing wrong. You can be short. Why should he get a box to stand on . He wants a box for the debate . Really . Does that mean everybody gets a box . Cory booker and all these people could not get any of the other things bloomberg is getting. It is unfair for the democrats. I would love to run against bloomberg. Okay, there is a few things to say. Number one, this is one of my all time favorites, despite trump playing, there is no evidence that bloomberg is asking to stand on a box and there is nothing wrong standing on the boxes. Some of the candidates do that so that the camera angle makes sense. Let me say one more thing which is, is this the state of the gop where we sit there and make fun of other people, is that where it is now . Is this what it is now . Money talks. I rather have bloombergs money straight from him and no corruption rather than the money from sheldon from gambling in las vegas. Bloomberg could stand on his big pile of money and thatll be his way of gains and heights. I think whats going on is president had seen bloombergs ads and it is getting under bloombergs skin. The president tweeted three times about bloomberg. Hes not going to be in the iowa caucus as an option. Does this prove that the president is so obsessed with tv ads . An incredibly thin skinned president. And so to see this phase where he feels like hes doing this presuper bowl interview, he should be the star to see someone else coming into what he seems to view as his toerritory. It is throwing him off and making him angry. It is so sad and pathetic to see fox news enabling this very small man to go on television and sit down with his pal and kind of makes fun of the other. Bloomberg campaign put out a strong statement. The president is lying, hes a pathological liar, he lies about everything and his fake hair and obesity and his spray on tan. It is only february 2nd and we have a long way to go. Julian, well see these campaigns during the super bowl time. Trump had twothirds second ads and theyre both paying 11 million bucks to be on the super bowl. What does it say of campaign ads of americas informal holiday, a day where everybody enjoys football. It is not an informal holiday at all. I would add dont under estimate what hes doing. We had a discussion a few days after the president went through this impeachment trial is still waiting to formally be acquitted. The iowa caucus is about to happen and what are we talking about . Him making disparaging remarks about Mike Bloomberg and his physical being. Thats what hes going to do now between november. Thats something democrats are going to have to figure out. Tie tonight is the launch of his campaign and hell do it with the super bowl. This is the kind of campaign well see. Democrats may talk about policies. Hes going to talk about what we are hearing. Panel, thank you very much. I want go give you an update of our story of the state department targeting the National Public radio. Mike pompeo answering the question of the ukraine scheme. After that, the state department decided to remove mnprs respone and she was no longer given a seat on the plane. It seems like retaliation. On monday, npr sending a letter on pompeo demanding answer. Npr says these are serious issues at stake, access to those in power is fundamental to our ability to do our jobs. Thats bigger than npr. It is about the role of journalism in america. Pompeo did leave for his trip and traveling throughout europe and etcetera, npr were not on board. When pompeo was asked about this, he brought up kelly and says he hopes kelly finds peace. President trump praising pompeos toughness. Npr told us they still have not heard back from pompeo about why she was removed from the plane. Still no words and answers, of course, this is all your taxpayers money. It is ridiculous. We got to continue to call it out. Reporters always find a way. Look who broke the news on friday about former ambassador Marie Yovanovitch retiring . Who broke the news about that . Npr michelle callaman. Scoops are the best revenge. Well get out to iowa in a moment. How is the impeachment cloud affected coverage of the iowa caucuses. 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Art, you are the author of the new book, storm lake. Have you been covering the caucuses for many years in your backyard, whats different this year, art cullen . Is impeachment the only thing thats different this year . One big difference is just size of the Political Press core that comes in and welcome to my friends and colleagues here from the New York Times and a axios. This is much bigger than what we saw in 2016. And the other differences was there was not much attention because Hillary Clinton really did not show up that much where i am in rural iowa and nooeeith did trump. There is a lot of reporters in iowa for sure, i get the impression that there is not as much news of the amount of you know actual attention has been smaller because of the impeachment. I wonder do you think that affects the candidates . Are any of the kacandidates hurting because they are not getting much press. One thing we can look to is several newspapers and publications including the the times and axios how theyre doing this act of participating in the impeachment trial but also trying to campaign in iowa. Senator got more attention that may have taken away from folks joe biden and Pete Buttigieg, while those senators stuck in d. C. The interesting thing of the big picture of this coverage was to think back of the first public impeachmentment he hearing in t house, that earned about 13 million views which is a lot. Because of that, news are figuring out how to do their own bouncing act because of viewer ships in the public impeachment trial. What do you think . I do think it had an effect on the most literal point, senators including Bernie Sanders and klobachar had to split their time and physically having to be in the state. Thats going to drive some conversations. Iowa is a retail state. Buttigieg and biden able to do more of those events. There is a question of energy. Thats one thats different here in the state. They have had a year of seeing and hearing candidates, their tv air ways are over loaded with ads. They have volunteers and door knockers and contact with campaign and Text Messages that so much while the National Conversation may be driven towards impeachment while the newspaper and the front pages may be driven towards impeachment. The iowa of democrats are aware of their responsibilities come monday night. Thats something still true locally and even of the National Conversa

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