Didnt score. Donald trump didnt offer any apologies but he did tell us this week that he regrets some of his behavior. He softened his tweeting tone. And last night asked what they have to lose by voting for him. And he is empowering a conservative firebrand to manage his effort and proving in the process what ive been saying about who holds the real power in the gop. Ill talk about trump with that other reality tv billionaire mark cuban. You know, he tweeted a complaint at me last week during the course of the show. So i invited him on. And another campus firestorm, this one you might not have missed. Should College Students be allowed to demand of a particular roommate. And more controversy on ryan lochte and this makes me more sympathetic to him. But first, i told you so, six months ago i told you that if you want to understand the rise of donald trump, you should look to the people with microphones. In an essay that i coauthored with brian rosenwall that got a million views on cnn. Com, we wrote this. Over the course of the last three decades the media personalities have surpassed Party Officials and elected officials assaulting to the staff of atop publications. Dannon wrote as the New York Times wrote, hes a per purveyor of scorchedearth rightwing media who dwells in the darker corners of american politics. The website he runs Breitbart News, recently accused president obama of importing more hating muslims, compared planned parenthoods work to the holocaust and called bill kristol, the conservative commentator a renegade jew, and advised female victims of Online Harassment to just log off and stop screwing up the internet for men, illustrating that point. This used to be earned by insiders paying their dues and gaining seniority. Today its achieved by insiders and the two have different priorities, Political Parties they exist for just one purpose, and that is to win ideological vessels. But not the titans of talk, they are on a Business Mission with a goal of computer clicks and ears and eyeballs all to generate revenue. So the passion, the engagement and desire for conservatives to Breitbart News or liberals to msnbc is what it takes to win a general election. For their first act, they considered a more contrite trump with the recruitment, mr. Trump would ensure that the next three months will be highly entertaining for some. But the question remains whether they are far too alienating for many. Joining me now, buck sexton, regularly fills in for sean handy, and amy from rasmussen reports, and brian rosenwall, an instructor from the university of pennsylvania writing a book on the development of talk radio. Bob, let me begin with you, are conservative talkers upset with trump as their nominee reaping what they sew . It depends what conservatives youre referring to. There are people who have done everything in their power on the conservative media to prevent the rise of trump. Theres the very prominent never trump movement. If you actually look at the National Review week and among others, they believe trump has hijacked the Republican Party and this is a faction. Trumpism, if you will. In part largely because you had 17 candidates starting out. Now you see one gop individual of the laboratory individual and has taken over things. So some supporters have been on the trump early on, but others said this was a disaster for the gop and they continue to say that to this day despite the fact we have had the convention and trump is the nominee. So it depends on which fraction youre looking at. Brian, if i pick up on what buck said using the word laboratory, the guys with the bunson burners are pouring the concoctions for 30 years. And donald trump is showing them in their own image, am i wrong . Absolutely. This reminds me of a guy eating poorly, not exercising for 30 years and turns around exercising and six months later surprises he has a heart attack. Hes validated the views of the conservatives that wanted a community and talk radio provided that community for them and cable news now and websites like breitbart. And the fact is that this is hes a creature of this. I mean, this is you hear his fans saying the things about rush bah in the early 1990s. Amy, the political argument im making is that is great for the base, that will put 20e 20,000 people in an arena. But part of me says thats not necessary. Am i wrong . I would agree in saying you cant apply that. Many are pointing a finger at who gave us donald trump. If you look at the Midterm Election in 2013, voters said to Mitch Mcconnell and paul ryan, we want to put the brakes on legislating by executive action, by president obama taking this agenda to the left and donald trump supporters, if you look at polling data, they span the ideological spectrum. They are not just from the right but they are voters who want a voice in politics and feel the beltway politicians have not been listening to them for a very long time. But buck, heres what im saying in drawing a lynn year connection between what you hear on the radio and conservative athlet athletes. Is it any surprise during the course of the campaign you hear donald trump talking about megyn kelly talk about blood coming out of her wherever. Or the other experience was glenn beck making reference to barack obama as a quote unquote racist with a deepseeded hatred for white people. Is it any doubt that youre going to hear candidate trump say out the risks and peril that the Obama Presidency has presented to america . I see it all as connected. They have cultivated a receptiveness to the tonality and speech. You can reply as i know you disagree. Yes, those are completely disconnected. I dont know how it is that you go and pull comments from different individuals over a period of many years to say, this comment was bad or i didnt like this, this comment was bad, therefore, that is what the gop have come to when you look at what is said on the left by all sorts of people in the media. Im not really sure what youre saying, what, there is a courseness that conserves in media but not in liberal media . No, im saying it may exist in liberal media as well, but it hasnt taken control of the party. And the reason im bringing it up on the outlooks is formally running the trump campaign. So it is coming full circle. Hold on. I want jump in here. One at a time, one at a time. Bill p you go first. The idea that zrump the culmination of decades of radio. You have some of the most conservative talk show hosts in this country who are horrified by this. They built the lab, they just dont like what it created. Amy, respond to that. I think you dont like what the American People are saying through donald trump. And where i wanted to zblump is youre also i believe that Kellyanne Conway is shaping donald trump voters. So youre pointing to breitbart rightly, but youre not pointing to the fact that donald trump just delegated a woman known in conservative circles, also in television and rightwing media, is actually being a very lovely, thoughtful, centrist woman and i think that is not very fair of you, michael, to be honest. I had her here last weekend as my guest. Dr. Rosenwald, bail me out here. Im under assault. No, michael, youre 100 right. You cant put the genie in the bottle once you left it out. You cant cultivate something for 30 years and say we dont like it. To amys point, its not the American People but a segment of the American People. The segment great for making money on fox news or talk radio, but you cant elect a candidate. You cant win with 45 of the Republican Base that got donald trump to this point. If he does not come back to the center and hiring steve bannon is that he wants to continue down the chain to be entertaining to thrill his fan, but how does that get you to 51 . Ironically, what i find amazing is that Paul Manafort, his private Campaign Manager that now resigned, kept promising us a president ial pivot that never happened and then he hired Steve Bannonand it does happen. Donald trump does give the speech and goes to louisiana to start the outreach. So i have just this whole theory that zrump creating cre that donald trump is creating. Guys, this is a great subject for more talk on a different date. Thank you for being here. Tweet me smerconish. Ill read the best later in the program. Still to come, a sfasbook post looking for a roommate led to the headline, students at claremont colleges refuse to live with white people. Is that accurate and acceptable . Plus, he funds entrepreneurs on shark tank and now is in the tank for Hillary Clinton, billionaire and smerconish viewer mark cuban is here. Another fan of the program, Kellyanne Conway just made reference to by amy. She tweeted me after appearing on last weekend. Check this out. Hey, i hope that doesnt cause mr. Trump to tell her that shes fired. Someones hacked all our technology. Say, have you seen all the Amazing Technology in geicos mobile app . Mobile app . Look. Electronic id cards, emergency roadside service, i can even submit a claim. Wow. Yep, geicos mobile app works like a charm. Geico. Expect great savings and a whole lot more. Im Hillary Clinton, and i approve this message. Michael hayden if he governs consistent with some of the things he said as a candidate, i would be very frightened. Gillian turner hes been talking about the option of using a Nuclear Weapon against our western european allies. Max boot this is not somebody who should be handed the Nuclear Codes. Charles krauthammer you have to ask yourself, do i want a person of that temperament controlling the Nuclear Codes . And as of now, id have to say no. [bill oreilly sighs] and as of now, id have to say no. When you ache and havent youre not you. Tylenol® pm relieves pain and helps you fall fast asleep and stay asleep. We give you a better night. Youre a better you all day. Tylenol®. We love getting your feedback on twitter. Last week i got a complaint from a billionaire viewer whose done reality tv and become a real American Power in american politics. No, not donald trump, mark cuban who owns maverick the Dallas Mavericks and is the star on the reality show shark tank. Cuban tweeted, smerconish, he never proves anything, schweitzer, he is the king of innuendo. Mark, you did tweet me interviewing peter schweitzer, and i dont know if you took the time to read the book, but i thought it was well substantiated. And his reporting was built on by abc, by the washington post, by the New York Times, not exactly institutions looking to do a hit job on the clintons. No, they certainly reported on it, but when you read the articles, they dont come to conclusions, they just report on what he wrote. Ill give you the perfect example. He talked about the iranian deal, right . He made a big deal that there was a big pro quo and she sold the rights to yuranium, et cetera. He didnt say there are nine agencies that had to approve the deal, including the treasury department, the department of security and others. He didnt talk about what their response was and it didnt seem entirely like it was secretary clintons decision. And theres reporting that said she was not involve in the decision. Mark, i like you because i think youre an independent thinker. You say liberal things. That is what i do. I dont know anybody so robotic that they see the world off to a liberal or conservative lens except for the tv presenters from whom i rub elbows, so that is why youre here. People are saying this guy did a hit job because he had association with the coke brothers. He might have an association with the coke brothers but may not necessarily mean i dont care about that. Maybe a one final observation and then i want to get off this, but you tweeted at me while having the conversation because what was documented last week in the news was how this lebanese businessman who had expertise or wanted to contribute to the state department, there was contact made by the Clinton Foundation doug band to the state department at the highest level and said, hey, hes an important guy, give him an audience. Now, apparently he never got a meeting, but there is supposed to be a chinese wall between the Clinton Foundation and the state department that seemingly was breached. No, i dont think theres supposed to be a chinese wall. Look, if i havent given money to any campaign, but if i called somebody in this administration a future Trump Administration and said, you know what . Can you guys help me get access to soandso . They are going to try to make an introduction because its an American Business or, you know, its an affiliate, somebody they are trying to help. That happens in politics every day. That happens in government every day. Thats the job of the state department is to facilitate international, transinternational commerce, International Security and other things. The foundation does good things. When they say this lebanese business person just wanted to convey information, never got a meeting and just conveyed information, then somebody did their job. They felt the information wasnt worthwhile. There was no reason to have the meeting. There was a connection made and nothing happened. Nothing happened. So this has been an interesting week, Paul Manafort is out, steve bannon is in, i expected the campaign would go in more of an insidiary direction. And yet on thursday night we saw a more conciliatory donald trump. What do you see . Read those tea leaves . I dont know that we saw a more conciliatory, showing regret is far different than apologizing, but i will give him credit and did on twitter that his presentation skills were far better. He didnt look bored reading the teleprompter, he was engaged and emotional and that was something we had not seen from him when reading prepared remarks. I have given him credit for making the move but it doesnt change the content. So well have to see what happens there. You are known for your business prowess, has it occurred to mark cuban, and this is hot online so let me float the theory, that this is all about business and that the tagteam of trump and bannon and ailes somewhere in the background now that hes out at fox, this is all about building a conservative empire that can take business away from fox news. No, i dont see that at all. But i will see, i have not dealt with steve bannon in a long time but have in the past and he was super smart. I can say quite confidently hes a lot smarter than donald trump. And that the master plan is probably steves. And i think a lot of what happens, steve is smart enough to make it donalds idea. And i think this is going to benefit steve bannon, its going to benefit Breitbart News, but i dont see donald participating in the benefit whatsoever in terms of what happens after the fact. Mark, help me understand what went on, because last september i remembered 20,000 people coming to the home of the Dallas Mavericks and donald trump praising you for facilitating that visit. He paid me to use the arena. Hes a customer. What could you like to know . Well, come on, at that time you said publicly you were open to the idea of being his running mate. Right. No, when donald first got into the race, i was actually very excited. I thought it was a unique opportunity for somebody with a business background to step in and change the game. I liked the fact that he was honest and he didnt give prepared comments. So i thought there was a real opportunity. And on top of that, i was really not a fan of ted cruz. I was clear to be an abc person, anybody but cruz, because i thought ted was a demagogue but hes also smart. Thats a dangerous combination. So i told donald that i would help him try to get past ted cruz. But i also told him at some point you have to dig in and learn policy, understand the issues and recognize that its a very difficult job. And that the only certainty in the position is uncertainty. And if youre not willing to learn and read and dig into the issues, thats going to be a real problem and thats where we had a falling out. I know you dont agree we donald trump and made it clear that your support of Hillary Clinton is not just opposition base to trump. There are things about her candidacy you like. Heres a question for mark cuban, do you look at him and say, wow, hes had a hell of a ride and maybe i should look at the serious run in the future. Has he changed your true . No, the exact opposite. Theres so little how so . Theres so little focus on policy and programs and getting results, you know, we cover the same five, six topics over and over and over again. And we never go into depth about any of them. Theres no real new discussion. We dont we dont talk about automation and the impact on employment. We dont talk about what is happening in terms of internet naming. We dont talk about patents. Theres all these Little Things that add up into big things that no one even brings up anymore because we scream and yell, whether regrets means apology or not, and whether Clintons Foundation and clinton cash and all the other nonsense is real or not. And then we call her to lie and lying hillary and catch donald in his lies. Theres no their anymore, why would i want to stand in the quagmire. Have you stopped to think about the impact of shark tank beyond the episodes that get aired . Oh, yeah. I have four children, three of them are teenager sons, one is now 20, but we watch it together. We talk about Business Strategi