What tuesdays Election Results will mean for the candidate of hope and change. This is state of the union. Good morning from washington, im Candy Crowley. The weekend before the Midterm Election is a great time to spot possible president ial contenders for the next one. Theyre out campaigning for colleagues and picking up kids. We found senator rand paul in pennsylvania where we sat down to talk politics and headlines. I asked paul, a libertarian, about mandatory quarantines for Health Care Workers who return to the u. S. After treating ebola patients in africa. Well, i think its interesting that the cdc and the president have downplayed this. The president says youre riding on a bus, youre not going to get ebola. If theyre asymptomatic thats true but if someones symptomatic obviously you are at a great deal of risk ride on a bus with someone who has ebola. Shes asymptomatic. Right, it is a different story. It depends on your stage of the disease. The other thing is the cdc acknowledge it can be transmitted through a sneeze. Theyre admitting now its contagious. When we get to the question of quarantine its a tough question because the libertarian in me is horrified at the idea of indefinitely detaining anyone without a trial. One of the basic rights we inherited from the english and we got from common law was the right of habeas corpus to present the body. If the king were detaining you in the tower of london or a governor or anybody who is detaining you, you have to have recourse to a lawyer and to a judge they filed suit to get her out of new jersey, now thats in maine and again saying i am not contagious. I should be allowed to move. What do you think . Right, i think common sense would say it makes a different whether or not youre febrile, afebrile or asymptomatic. She doesnt have a fever. And as the disease goes on and if you are in the final, acute stages of ebola, you are incredibly contagious, and when you are febrile, you are contagious, and so there is a concern and i think that you should not be going to discotheque or the local bar or the local school cafeteria, and so there are reasonable precautions, and the federal government should have stepped in before all of this to have some travel restrictions and with people with visas returning in a uniform way of returning. And to have a uniform way of accepting people back into our country. Are we proud of nurses and doctors who risk their lives to treat people in liberia and west africa . Absolutely, and i think thats the way she senses its a little bit of an insult to her services to confine her in a tent. Sure. And do you think so . Yes. We have to be careful of peoples civil lib t libertie, but im not saying the government doesnt have a role in trying to prevent contagion. The libertarian in me says she has to have recourse to a lawyer, to a judge and if she is going to be confined, it has to be through a judicial process where she has the right to file a writ of habeas corpus or a right to saying to the king or to the government, why am i being detained and is it approved lawfully. Then there is a possibility that you can have some quarantine. Theres also a possibility if you do it in a reasonable fashion that maybe she would do it voluntarily which would be the ideal situation. Ferguson, weve seen a lot of and still the grand jury meets. We dont know what the outcome will be but theres been a lot of leaking from someone, by someone, that indicates this maybe is not a slam dunk an indictment against this Police Officer. Right. Youve been to ferguson. I know youve talked to the Minority Community there, if no indictment is returned by this jury, what do you foresee for ferguson . I want to see something destructive come out of this. When i went to ferguson i sensed theres an undercurrent of unease in ferguson but also in a lot of mistrust of police in the judicial system. Yes and really throughout the United States. This isnt just ferguson. The war on drugs has had a disproportionate act on african americans. Black kids, brown kids are populating our jails, destroying our families. They sense it. Thats unease between police and of africanamerican community. I dont know exactly why not but i want to hear from them and im a big proponent saying the war on drugs needs to be changed dramatically when we need to quit saying the answer is to put people in jail for a decade or two and throw away the key and thats the end of their life. The ferguson case was about the killing of a young black man at the hands of a white cop, the details differ between the two sides. You have seen the rage that is in ferguson as a result of what they say was bad treatment by police, a Justice System that doesnt work. In this specific case, what if the grand jury doesnt indict this Police Officer . What does that mean for ferguson . I have tried not to weigh in on the specifics of the case because i dont know the Police Officer and its all secret and grand jury and i dont want to be the federal guy that comes in, i know whats rauls right for a community but i want to be the one who says that, lets channel this into the anger or the upset or the unease, lets channel it into something positive so what i suggested when i was in ferguson, i suggested i want more people to vote. You want more people to vote. I will help you get more people to vote and the biggest thing impeding voting in our country, we talked about voter i. D. And all that, thats not the problem in our country. The problem is people who have had felony convictions and are prevented from voting. I have several pieces of legislation to try to allow people to vote and if they channel their energy into registering to vote, ferguson is over 60 africanamerican. If they would register people to vote they could have a bigger voice in their community and constructive voice. People have told them that. Were talking about a community that feels that a young man was murdered, and i put that in quotes, but thats the feeling there, that he was murdered by a white Police Officer, and if a, if theres no bill, if theres no indictment of this Police Officer, does it not undermine what is seen by the Minority Community as justice, and would you be able to sell that as justice . I think that is a very difficult question and hard for someone outside, im not in the grand jury room. I dont hear all the evidence. Its hard for me and i dont want to malign the police or say the police were okay. I want to be able to say that i want to try fix the overall unease in our country. Longterm. And overall criminal justice. I have six different bills to try to get people the right to vote to expunge your record to treat this more as a Health Problem and less incarceration problem. This is the indirect way of addressing the unease in ferguson. I dont have a specific answer where i can make everything right in ferguson. Lets talk about 2014. Youve been out and about more than 30 states as i understand it. Will the republicans take over control of the senate . I think in all likelihood yes. I think the winds at our back. I think the wins at this election will be a referendum on the president. Even he acknowledged his policies will be on the bale lot and he will be indirectly on the ballot, and theres a great deal of unhappiness that feels like our kcountry, he promised he would be beyond things, that he would be a uniter, and not a divider. I called him a month ago, i said mr. President ill work with you on criminal justice. Help me bring american profit at home so we can create jobs here. He voted for this in 2005, lower the tax rate, bring money home, create jobs, its a win win for both parties. I was disappointed he chose to attack american corporations, attack American Business instead of saying i will help you bring jobs in well do it together. You are right that certainly, there are a lot of circumstances that if youre a democrat, you are looking at an unpopular president , and history is gener generally against the party that has a president in a midterm who holds the oval office, and you are seeing in the polls that the democrats have much tougher territory to defend than the republicans did, but you feel it is a e referendum on the president. What does it say about the republicans . Because a lot of the races, about ten of them are pretty darn close which means that the democrats have been able to survive in the worst of environments. I think is shows our country is pretty evenly divided. It tilts a little bit one way and a little bit the other way. When you have a president and Hillary Clinton saying the same thing, saying that businesses dont create jobs, a lot of americans are scratching their heads and saying, who do these people think create jobs if businesses dont. Do they think government creates jobs and thats how america became great . Theres a fundamental philosophical debate. I sense a lot of people saying to themselves, i think that if we dont understand that businesses create jobs, and if we dont understand that we want American Businesses and money the come home and we want to do something constructive, then maybe we do need new leadership in the country. People are maybe ready for new leadership. When we return, more with senator rand paul and the tough love approach to the grand old party. An Unprecedented Program arting busithat partners businesses with universities across the state. 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I think whats interesting about this is when i say the brand sucks, and that we need to recognize it, its that certain segments of our population, if i came up to you and you were an africanamerican young woman in a college, what are the chances youll see republican, i want to join immediately, our brand isnt so good. If you get to our policies, for example, i have a policy to rejuvenate our inner cities by leaving 1 billion in detroit and if i can get to that young person and say like enterprise zones. Yes, if i can talk about the issues republicans have a chance but our brand is so broken we cant even break through, you know, the wall thats out there, and this is the same with hispanic voters, its the same with young people in general. I think there are a lot of avenues for republicans to break through. Ive talked a lot about the right to privacy i think universally resonates with young people. I want more people to vote, not less. Im a person who believes what weve tried for our cities isnt working but i want to try something new. Im someone who cares about poverty and longterm unemployment and i have an idea different than the democrats, will you listen to me . If they listen to you and youre not the president ial candidate, when the republican primary season is over, does that transfer to another president ial candidate . Are you making the case for a rand paul presidency . You know, i think when things begin to resonate, others will emulate things. For example, ive been talking for several years now about how the war on drugs, we need to have fairer sentencing, we need to let people get back to work. Right. Theres several governors talking about this now so i think good ideas will resonate and be replicated so its not just about me, but i try to promote ideas that maybe the party will say, you know what . He is having success and africanamericans are listening to him. Hispanics are listening, young people are listening, and i think the fact that people invited me to 30 states because they thought i could help with undecided vote and independent vote means that other republicans are recognizing the force of these kind of ideas. So why did do you this . Why did you make such a big effort, if not to set up a president ial run . Well, i wont deny that it would help me if i decide to run for president to travel to 32 states and to be part of helping the Republican Team on board, but i also do it because whether i run or not and i havent decided but whether i run or not i want the Republican Party to be bigger and more successful because i think our philosophy will help the country more. I think weve tried the Big Government way. Weve tried the big tax way. Weve tried all these regulations but were suffering now because companies are actually fleeing america. Its actually better to do business in canada in many ways than america. Its better to do business in europe than america. We have to change that, and the democrats have said oh, no, we dont care, well call American Companies unpatriotic. That to me is a disaster for us, and people should reject that wholesale. When you look at the beginning of your political career, you were a doctor prior to coming to the u. S. Senate. You certainly had a political upbringing with your father, ron paul, who ran for president a couple of times. When you look at your, how you got here, it was as someone who was fighting the party from outside the party. Now youre kind of the ultimate insider because youre going around, youre helping Mitch Mcconnell from your home state of kentucky, other what we would call mainstream republicans certainly incumbents. Is this an effort to say i am not the iconoclast republican my dad was . Well you know i think that i genuinely believe that our party is significantly different in philosophy. Within our party there are difference answer ive tried to support the republicans in the party who i think will be more dramatically for the program im for, but also when i see the differences between the parties, i think the Republican Party is a much better choice. I also kind of laughingly sound for peace and commerce with all republicans so i want to be someone who does bring the party together, if if you ever want to hold National Office i think you got to not only bring your party together, youve got to bring both parties and independents together to say we want whats best for america and really ive still had criticism from my party. Sure. Ive said evolve, adapt or die. I think the party has to change but im also not stuck and trapped by my party and that i will do whats right, regardless of what party i belong to. And but is it to the point of the question, is it an effort to say im not the politician my dad was . I dont think i would say that. What i would say is i am who i am and its me trying to present who i am but its never in my mind a contrast with my father. I have a great deal of respect to are my father. My father was probably one of the most genuine people probably to ever occupy office in washington and forthright beyond all belief and people really liked his honesty, so i would never want to separate from that but i am my own person. I present myself in a way that i think is best to try to expand the message to more people. One of the things that we see in the political realm right now is the beginning of the shaping of 2016. Weve probably seen it the last couple of years and one of the storylines is we have learned our lesson, a guy that was in the senate this coming from your side, a guy in the senate for two years had no executive experience, is not ready to be president. Youve been in the senate for four years, prior to that, you were a doctor. I think youve described yourself to me at one point as a small town doctor. What in that resume is different than the president , the current sitting president . I think its sort of a side show to say which occupation you were before. Weve had good senators and bad senators. Weve had good governors, bad governors. I remind people jimmy carter was a gover