Would be somebody we would want to talk to. Top democrat on the Senate Intelligence committee will be here live. And Health Care Hustle . Republicans taking another crack at repealing obamacare. I am sitting in the oval office with a pen in hand, waiting for our senators to give it to me. Breaking news on the latest development that threatens to derail him. A key senator reveals how shell vote next. Plus, the biggest political minds with insights on what happens next. Hello, im jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is disapproving. A brand new poll out this morning shows President Trump has hit a new low with american voters. Just 36 say they approve of the way hes doing his job with 58 of americans saying they disapprove. Remarkably almost half of the American People saying they strongly disapprove of the job hes doing. 55 say the president is not making progress on his agenda. Overnight the number one item on President Trumps agenda, health care, being stalled again. Mitch mcconnell announcing that the vote will be delayed while senator john mccain recovers from surgery. Meanwhile, President Trump is up, observing the sabbath as only he can, tweeting attacks on the free press and Hillary Clinton, mounting a defense of his son, don junior, who has acknowledge aid meeting with russians who claimed to want to deliver the Trump Campaign dirt on clinton. Asked about the meeting in this poll, 63 of americans say it was inappropriate. Joining me now is jay sekulov, a member of the president s team. Americans expressed disappointment. Dirt on Hillary Clinton from what he thought would be the russian government. Here is what Charles Krauthammar had to say, quote, the Russian Investigation is entering a new if as. This is not hearsay, not fake news, not unsourced leaks. It may not be criminal but it is not merely stupid. It is also deeply wrong, a fundamental violation of any coat of civic honor. Are you willing to acknowledge this was wrong and a violation of civic honor . I deal with the law so thats what im the lawyer for the president and campaigns involve Opposition Research. And the situation with the email exchange that was released by donald trump jr. And what was described there is look at it and compare it to, for instance, ukrainians with the dnc and clinton campaign. The moment theres an fbi investigation or senate and house Intelligence Committee investigations into ukraine and the dnc and the clinton campaign, im happy to discuss it. But thats not whats going on right now. Its interesting there isnt one. But go ahead, jake. Because nobody from the Ukrainian Government met with anybody from the clinton campaign. Moving on from that, youre talking about the legality. I understand youre a lawyer but youre also a man of faith. Yeah. Isnt it kind of important whether or not what donald trump jr. , manafort and kushner did, isnt it important, whether or not its legal, whether or not its wrong, whether or not its e ethical . Youre conflating, jake, three perspectives here. The legality. Was the meet anding and what took place legal or not . Almost every legal expert says its not illegal. Then youre trying to put a moral ethical aspect to t its easy to do that in 20 20 hindsight but noe not when youre in the middle of a campaign. Im not a campaign lawyer, i wasnt a campaign lawyer. Meetings were taking place, as donald trump jr. Said 15, 20 minutes apart this one went even shorter. Everybody looking backwards and saying wouldve, shouldve, couldve. But to go back a year later and say this is what should have happened when the meeting was 20 minutes and a series of meetings that took place days and days for months, i dont think thats fair to donald trump jr. , Jared Kushner or manafo trchrt for th matter. Republican, democrat, independent, nature of the politics. Not with the governments of hostile foreign powers, jay. Thats not normal. You could talk about Opposition Research all you want. The russian government attorney, thats what this is billed at, with highlevel intelligence on Hillary Clinton. For all don junior knew, that was coming from the fsb, successor to the kgb. That was coming from human intelligence. He had no idea where it was coming frchlt normal oppo is legally obtained. I go back to the ukrainian example. I know you dont want to discuss it because its not being investigated, which raises a question. They exchanged documents from a foreign government. Paul manaforte did work in ukraine. People in ukraine wanted the United States to know. Yes. From a legal and public hearing. Wait a minute. But, jake, he was running the campaign at the time. So, i mean, were acting like this is some kind of oneoff thing that never happens in campaigns. You just gave the evidence of exactly what took place there. No. Nobody from the Ukrainian Government met with the clinton campaign, again, as i said. Thats not true. Representatives at the ukrainian embassy, the political report was clear. Go ahead. I know you want to change the subject. Lets go back to russia. Donald trump jr. Was asked if he met with anyone else from russia. This is his answer. Take a listen. I probably met with other people from russia. During the campaign. Not in the context of a formalized meeting or anything like that because why would i . Don junior saying ive probably met with other people from russia. What other meetings or communications with russians have not been disclosed yet . None that i know of. I represent the president of the United States. Donald trump jr. Said not in the context of formal meetings, that he may have met with russian people. As a lot of people meet with russian people. Thats not unusual. He also said in march there were no meetings at all in the auspices of the campaign. Now we know thats not true. I thought about that. You and i talked about that the other day on the weekday broadcast. I thought about that. I go back to and look at, jake, in the context of a meeting, and the meetings and series of meetings taking place during the campaigns, there were dozens of meetings every day, hundreds of meetings every week. This meeting lasted, what, 15 minutes . It was short. Nothing was produced. It never went any further. It wasnt ever discussed again. Let me say one thing thats important here. The president and this has been unko ochluncontroverted, w the meeting, did not know about the meeting. We now know there were at least eight people in that meeting, including a russianamerican lobbyist with alleged ties to russian intelligence. Trey gowdy, not exactly a leader of the resistance, calling the drip, drip, drip about information of this controversy. What other details about this meeting have not been disclosed . Well, again, i want to say i represent the president. Donald trump jr. Said he disclosed everything about the meeting. But i am one of the counsel for the president of the United States, who was not involved in the meeting and not aware of the meeting. From our perspective, my answer stands. That is that the president was not engaged in this, with ans not aware of it. Donald trump jr. Made statements about that this was everything. He said that on the area, on sean hannittys broadcast and, again, speaks for itself. The Trump Campaign, we learned this week, paid 50,000 to donald trump jr. s lawyer. They paid this a day after one of the cnn reporters working on the story called to say what can you tell us about this meeting . Is that an acknowledgement, that the meeting with the russian lawyer, that he thought was with the russian government, was official business, the fact that the Trump Campaign paid 50 grand to trump juniors attorney . Im not involved in the discussions with the lawyers on who paid what entity. I certainly dont represent donald trump jr. In a situation like this, not an unusual situation where the individual being questioned or subject to questioning, donald trump jr. , retains counsel, involved in an incident that involved an email campaign, while he was doing work for the campaign. Thats not an unusual scenario or setup at all. I dont know the final determination of who is paying what bills to whom. I think thats still in process. A lot of people who give money to the Trump Campaign will be surprised theyre paying for legal bills for donald trump jr. Jay sekulow, thank you for your time. Appreciate it. Thank you, jake. Donald trump jr. 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Desensitizes aggravated nerves with the max strength lidocaine available. New icyhot lidocaine patch. Welcome back to state of the union. Ivanka trump and Jared Kushner tried to escape the heat of washington and heat of congress, setting off to sun valley, idaho, for an annual conference. Kushners distance from the president has not taken the pressure off. Democrats in congress are renewing calls fo revoke kushners security clearance after they found out that he attended a meeting with a russian business lawyer who promised to dish dirt on Hillary Clinton. The vice chair of the Intelligence Committee, of course, leading the Russian Investigation. Senator, thank you for joining us, as always. Thank you, jake. Lets begin with donald trump jr. s meeting with that russian lawyer. You heard President Trumps lawyer, jay sekulow a moment ago, maintaining there was nothing illegal about the meeting. I know special Counsel Robert Mueller is overseeing the criminal investigation. We dont really know what happened at the meeting. What we do know is that donald trump jr. Did not tell the truth a variety of times. At first he said this meeting was only about russia. Immigration policies and adoptions. We know this was a meeting was specifically, in black and white, about the russians effort to discredit clint sben help trump. Im not sure why we would take anybody in this administration at their word. Thats why were going to try to nail down the truth. Have you seen any evidence that any crime was committed . Im not going to get into any evidence weve seen. There seems to be a convenient pattern where all the senior officials of the Trump Campaign forget about meetings with russians and dont put it on their forms until information comes out and then they have to amend. Mr. Kushner we not have one, or two, but three examples where he has had to go back and amend his disclosure forms. I think if i had a meeting that involved russian government efforts to try to help candidate trump and hurt clinton that i would remember that. And frankly its unbelievable that neither the son nor soninlaw ever shared that information with their dad, the candidat candidate. Do you think kushners security clearance should be suspended . Im giving everyone the benefit of the doubt until we get a chance to talk to them and interview them. Its very bothersome that Jared Kushner has forgotten not once, not twice but three times to put down this information. We see this pattern. General flynn failed to put down information, he got fired. Attorney general had to recuse himself. Examples were put out about the firing of jim comey was about. Then the president said he fired jim comey because of the russia thing. Level of credibility from the senior levels really is suspect and i think suspect regardless of which Political Party you belong to. That june 2016 meeting with the russian lawyer included eight people. Will your committee seek to call all eight of them to testify . I would like to hear from all of these individuals. Whether well be able to get the russian nationals to come over and testify is an open question. I sure as heck want to talk to all of them. Do you think trump junior and kushner will testify in open session so the public can hear them . They have said theyre anxious to work with the committee. Again im going to take them at their word. It will be interesting to see whether theyll be willing to testify in open hearing or closed hearing. End of the day weve got to get the information and then we have to share the information with the American Public. The American Public deserves to know how the russians attacked our most basic democratic process, how they interfered not just in our country but in france. Theyre going to interfere in germany and what bother mees, they got a great return on investment. Add up all the money on these efforts to disrupt elections, double it and youre still talking less than 5 of a cost of the new aircraft carrier. Russians have found in cyber war fare a very good rate of return on what is, frankly, a in terms of money theyre spending. Any sort of timeline on when well have testimony from kushner and donald trump jr. . The i think its important we get documents from these individuals first so we can ask them the right questions. Clearly if we dont have all the information, what well see and what im afraid of is these individual individuals dont seem to disclose everything or tell the truth until evidence is put in front of them. The last time you were on this program on june 4th, you said it appeared that russian paid internet trolls, type of web robot that performs, automatically put forward misinformation, false stories about Hillary Clinton in ways that targeted, you said, certain states, certain demographics and precincts. At the time you said, quote, we dont have foolproof of this. Here we are, investigating six weeks later. Have you uncovered any evidence on this front . Weve got more investigation to look into. I would like to also look into the activityies of the Trump Digital Campaign. Facebook, which basically denied any responsibility around our elections by the time the french elections took place this spring, they actually took down 30,000 fake sites. We know its been estimated that 8 of all twitter accounts are fake. So the ability to manipulate these Search Engines is real. Its out there. We need information from the companies as well as the activities of some of the Trump Digital Campaign activities. Are you going to want people from cambridge analytica, the person who led the trump digital effort and facebook executives to testify . I sure want to get to all these questions. Not to try to relitigate 2016, but weve got to be ready in 2018. We heard that the russians will be back. Because the president wont acknowledge this attack, we dont have a whole government response. For example, 21 states the russians attempted to hack into their electoral system. We hear from secretaries of state that theyve not been notified by dhs. I dont think that makes the country safer by not notifying the states that were attacked and not being prepared for 2018. Horrible Approval Ratings for donald trump but also 62 of the people polled think that the Democratic Party mainly stands for opposing trump than standing for something substantive. Is there a risk for democrats to be seen in this light . Listen, i think we need to try to work with our republican colleagues on tax reform, health care reform. But that means that republicans have to give up this notion theyre going to change these laws with just republicans. I wish Mitch Mcconnell would take the advice of my friend, republican senator from maine, Susan Collins, and let republicans and democrats sit down together the way the constitution said, and work out bipartisan solutions. That would help the republicans, democrats and candidly the president s Approval Ratings as well. Susan colins will join us in the next segment. Senator