President trump wipes out subsidies to insurance companies. Taking crucial steps toward saving the American People from the nightmare of obamacare. And pressuring democrats to get on board or else. Theyre like obstructionists. If they came over, maybe we could make a deal. Even some republicans say its the American People who will pay the price. Key republican senator Susan Collins is here to react. Hell loeshgs im jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is changing course. This week President Trump moved to undue to cornerstones of the obama policy. The president disavowing the nuclear deal saying iran is not in compliance with the terms of the agreement but President Trump fell short of terminating the deal all together. Though the president did leave that option on the table. In the event we are not able to reach a solution working with congress and our allies, then the agreement will be terminated. This morning u. S. Allies are speaking out against President Trumps decision. Just hours ago Great Britain and germany reiterated they are, quote, firmly committed to the agreement, following a strong rebuke from the European UnionsForeign Policy chief. It is not a bilateral agreement. It does not belong to any single country and it is not up to any single country to terminate it. Here to discuss this and much more is the secretary of state Rex Tillerson. Secretary tillerson, thank you for joining us. We appreciate it. My pleasure, jake. Before we get to what the president did, i want to ask a question. You said recently iran is in Technical Compliance with the deal but President Trump said on friday the Iranian Regime has, quote, committed multiple violations of the agreement. So, which is it. Is iran in Technical Compliance or has it committed multiple violations . Well, the answer is really both, jake. Under the Nuclear Agreement, the jcpoa, that is a multilateral party agreement, there have been a number of technical violations. Carrying too much inventory, heavy water, having materials that are used to construct high speed centrifuges. Under the agreement, which is part of the weaknesses and flaws, iran has a significant period of time to remedy those violations. They have remedied the violations which brings them back into Technical Compliance. I think that demonstrated pattern of always walking up against the edges of the agreement are what give us some concern as to how far iran might be willing to go to test the limits of the agreement. Our response has been to work with the other parties and demand we be much more demanding of the enforcement of the agreement, much more demanding inspections, much more demanding disclosures. Thats what we are shifting since we have taken our seat at the table of the joint commission. President trump decertified the deal on friday but he did not withdrawal from the deal, as he could have. Did the president to withdraw unilaterally, secretary mattis and hers, to successfully pursue what might be described as a middle course. The president wants a more comprehensive strategy to deal with iran in its totality. For too long, certainly the last administration, really defined the iranian relationship around this Nuclear Agreement. This Nuclear Agreement is flawed. It has a number of weaknesses in it. So the president said throughout his campaign even, he said, ill either reform the agreement, renegotiate the agreement. Basically saying ill fix these flaws or well have to have a different agreement entirely. I think his decision around the new policy is consistent with that. Now we want to deal with the Nuclear Agreements weaknesses but we need to deal with a much broader array of threats that iran poses to the region. Our allies, and their threats to the national agreement. The policy itself has three components. I think its important people understand this. The president described these in his speech. This is the Nuclear Agreement, which we will undertake an effort to see if we cannot address the many flaws in the agreement, working with partners. It may be a secondary agreement. Maybe its not within the existing agreement but we might undertake a second agreement. Then a much broader threats from iran, ballistic program, hezbollah, hamas, and destabling activities in yemen to support the rebels, houthies, they destabilize the region. And the third element in the policy, and the president addressed this in his speech, this is not about the iranian people. This is about the revolutionary regime that ever since it came to power has been intent on killing and harming americans and harming others in the region. We do not hold the iranian people accountable for that. Our effort is to support the moderate voices in iran, support their cries for democracy and freedom and the hope that one dayite ran yan people will retake control of the government of iran and restore it to its rich history of the past, reintegrate and become a fruitful member in trade, commerce in the region. That is the end game here. Thats a very long game and we realize that. Before the senate not long ago, your counterpart at the pentagon, secretary mattis, was asked if he thought staying in the agreement was in the best interest of the United States. Not a question about whether or not he wanted to improve on the deal or add a secondary deal but whether or not the u. S. Should stay in it or leaf. He said staying in it was his course. It sounds like you agree with that as welle, that you would not Want Congress to immediately impose sanctions that would end this deal. No, i do agree with that. I think the president does as well, thats why he took the decision he took. Look, lets see if we cannot address the flaws in the agreement by staying within the agreement, working with the other signatories, working with our european friends and allies within the agreement. As i said, that may come in a secondary agreement as well. So, we want to take the agreement as it exists today. Fully enforce that agreement, be very demanding identify rans compliance under the agreement and then begin the process of addressing these flaws that we see around not addition the absence of addressing ballistic missiles, for instance. The concerns we have around the sunset provisions. This phaseout of the agreement. You know, we know what that looks like. Weve seen this in the past, in the 90s with north korea, agreements that ultimately phase out. What happened has put us on the road where we are today with north korea. We dont want to find ourselves in that same position with iran. Speaking of north korea, you talk about working with european allies, as you know, our european allies are very concerned about the step President Trump took on friday. I want to show you what the German Foreign minister had to say. Quoeshgts my big concern is that what is happening in iran or with iran from the u. S. Perspective will not remain an iranian position but many others in the world will determine if they should acquire Nuclear Weapons given such agreements are being destroyed. I guess the question there is, as voiced by the German Foreign minister, why should north korea believe anything that the United States has to say if the president has shown his willingness to walk away from agreements about Nuclear Weapons . I think what north korea should take away from this decision is that the United States will expect a very demanding agreement with north korea. One that is very binding and achieves the objectives not just of the United States but the policy objectives of china and other neighbors in the region. A denuclearized korean peninsula. We intend to be very demanding in that agreement. If we achieve that, there will be nothing to walk away from because the objective will be achieved. The issue with the iran agreement is it does not achieve the objective. It simply postpones the achievement. We feel thats one. Weaknesses under the agreement so were going to stay in, were going to work with our European Partners and allies to see if we cant address these concerns, which are concerns of all of us. All right. Secretary of state Rex Tillerson, stay right here. Well take a quick break. We have a lot more to talk about, including your role in establishing the dialogue with north korea, something the president said is a waste of time. Money managers are pretty much the same. 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Fy were a chinese official or north korean official, sheeg these tweets while you were trying to negotiate, trying to solve this problem, i would say secretary tillerson doesnt really speak for President Trump. Well, fortunately, President Trump and president xi have probably one of the closest relationship as the president does with a head of state. They have had two facetoface meetings, the one in maralago, and they speak on the phone frequently. I think theyve had seven or eight calls. I have a very close relationship with the state counselor of china who reports directly to president xi on their Foreign Policy. Rest assured the chinese are not confused in what the american policy towards north korea or what our actions or efforts are directed at. So but dont tweets like that undermine you . I think what the president is doing is hes trying to motivate action on a number of peoples part n particular the regime in north korea. I think he does want to be clear with kim jongun and that regime in north korea that he has military preparations ready to go. He has those military options on the table. We have spent substantial time actually perfecting those. But be clear, the president has also made clear to me that he wants this solved diplomatically. Hes not seeking to go to war. So, he doesnt think its a waste of time . No, sir. He has made it clear to me to continue my diplomatic efforts, which we are and we will as ive told others, those diplomatic efforts will continue until the first bomb drops. The relationship that secretary of state has with the president is one of the most important relationships in the world. World leaders need to know you speak for him and that he has faith in you and you have faith in him. Nbc news reported you were frustrated with President Trump over the summer and you called him a moron during a meeting at the pentagon. Now, youve dismissed the question as petty. But this is literally one of the most important relationships in the world, the one between you and President Trump. Is it true, did you call him a moron . Jake, as i indicated earlier when i was asked about that, im not going to deal with that kind of petty stuff. I mean, this is a town that seems to relish gossip, rumor, innuendo and they feed on it. They feed on one another in a very destructive way. I dont deal that way, i dont work that way and im not going to dignify the question. I call the president mr. President. He and i have a very open, frank and candid relationship. I see him often. Speak to him nearly every day. Im in the oval office a number of hours every week. We have we have a very open exchange of views on policy. At the end of the day, he makes decisions. I go out and do the best i can to execute those decisions successfully. And he understands at all times what we are trying to achieve to fully implement his Foreign Policy. He has assembled a very, i think, unconventional team. He himself is an unconventional president. Hes assembled an unconventional cabinet. He does not accept the status quo with the many threats we are confronting in the world today. Hes going to take action. Often the tweets or decisions he takes is to cause this forcing action, to get off the status quo, to force people to take action and move to a different place. Whether its the decision on the iranian agreement that was announced, to force action to address this defective agreement, whether its decisions on forcing north korea to move to a different place of engageme engagement, all of those are steps the president is taking to force action. He is not going to accept the status quo. The American People elected him to change the status quo. Thats what hes doing. Ever since you called it petty, ive been thinking a lot about it because im a reflective guy and i understand the media makes mistakes and the media can always improve. But heres the thing, either you didnt say it, and there are a whole bunch of officials telling the press you did, and thats a series problem. Or you did say it and youre a serious guy. For you to say that expresses a real frustration with the xhavender in chief. When you dont answer the question, it makes people think you probably did say it. Either way, whatever happened, it is serious. So, can you please clear it up . As i said, jake, im not playing. These are the games of washington. These are the destructive games of this town. Theyre not helpful to anyone. So, my position on it is, im not playing. Im not playing. You want to make a game out of it, im not playing. Im not making a game out of it. Im trying to seek clarity because saying that if i said that my bogs was a moron, that would be a serious issue. It wouldnt be my boss doesnt control nukes. Im willing to move on, but i want to be clear, you still havent denied you called him a moron. And, you know, a lot of people are going to watch this and think, he probably said it. Im not dignifying the question with an answer, jake. Im a little surprised you want to spend so much time on it when there are so many important issues around the world to deal with. I want to ask about senator bob corker who said something about you. Hes a friend of yours. He has tremendous respect to you. He speaks highly of you all the time. He says youre one of the best things about the cabinet. Hes dismayed, thinking the president is constantly undermining. He said the president has, quote, caster ated you before the world stage. Thats his world, not mine. Whats your response to that . As i indicated earlier, jake, i think this is an unconventional president. He uses unconventional communication tools, uses unconventional techniques to motivate change. For those that have been around washington a long time, this place doesnt like change. Enjoys the status quo. The last thing anyone likes to do in this town is make a decision. Once you make a decision youre suddenly accountable for that decision. True. The president is out trying to motivate people to change. Whether its on health care, whether its executive action he recently took to motivate that change, whether its on executive orders around immigration, to motivate that change, or whether its under the action he took on the iran deal on friday, its to motivate a change. People in this town get very nervous and get very uptight about having to address serious issues by making decisions. So, the president is simply trying to do that in his very unique style. He is very unique. I dont think thats any doubt that anyone sees him as the most unique president weve certainly ever seen in modern history, that we have recorded history of. Hard to dispute that. Again, i would say, i am fully committed to his objectives. I agree with his objectives. I agree with what hes trying to do. How he wants to use his own skills tactically to make change, im there to help him achieve that. You have a cattle ranch. You dont want to say anything about the senator suggesting youve been gelded before the world. I checked. Im fully intact. I did not expect that answer. So, lets turn to russia. Senator john mccain, a republican, and ben cardin, a democrat, slammed the Trump Administration for not implementing sanctions aga