As you know, is to go to the past. But you didnt do that in cobb county. You just looked at one page compared to another. The only way you can do a signature verification is go from the one that signed it on november whatever, recently, and compare it to two years ago, four years ago, six years ago or even one. And youll find that you have many different signatures. But in fulton, where they dumped ballots, you would find that you have many that arent even signed and you have many that are forgeries, okay . You know that. You know that. You have no doubt about that. And you will find you will be at 11,779 within minutes because Fulton County is totally corrupt and so is she totally corrupt. And theyre going around playing you and laughing at you behind your back, brad, whether you know it or finot, theyre laughg at you. And youve taken a state thats a republican state and youve made it almost impossible for a republican to win because of cheating, because they cheated like nobodys ever cheated before. And i dont care how long it takes me. You know, were going to have other states coming forward pretty good. But i wont this has never given this is we have some incredible talent said theyve never seen anything. Now, the problem is they need more time for the big numbers, but they are very substantial numbers. And i think youre going to find that they by the way, a little information. I think youre going to find they are shredding ballots because they have to get rid of the ballots. The ballots are unsigned. The ballots are corrupt and theyre brandnew and they dont have seals and theres a whole thing with the ballots. But the ballots are corrupt. And theyre going to find that they are which is totally illegal. Its more illegal for you than it is for them because you know what they did and youre not reporting it. Thats a criminal thats a criminal offense. And, you know, you cant let that happen. Thats a big risk to you and to ryan, your lawyer. Thats a big risk. But they are shredding ballots, in my opinion, based on what ive heard, and they are removing machinery and theyre moving it as fast as they can, both of which are criminal fines and you cant let it happen and you are letting it happen. You know, i mean, im notifying you that youre letting it happen. So, look, all i want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state. And flipping the state is a great testament to our country because, you know, theres just its a testament that they can admit to a mistake or whatever you want to call it if it was a mistake. I dont know. A lot of people think it wasnt a mistake. It was much more criminal than that. But its a big problem. This is the sitting president of the United States, the leader of the free world pushing for an alternate ending to the lawful vote already confirmed and certified in georgia just like all 50 states with no factual basis. The president repeatedly trying to pressure raffensperger into probing conspiracy theories. Raffensperger and his General Council refused. Thats President Trump trying to force the official in georgia to change the outcome of the 2020 president ial election in that state following at least three recounts there, even a signature audit in one of the big counties just like asked for. Raffensperger shutting down the president s chance to spin the call before the world got a chance to hear it, but now we know what happened. The man who led the effort to convict President Trump, house intelligence chairman adam schiff is suggesting the president s actions are potentially criminal. The senates number two democrat, dig dur ban, saying quote, his disgraceful effort to intimidate an elected official strikes at the heart of our democracy and merits nothing less than a criminal investigation. And Senate Majority leader, like senator ted cruz, you want to investigate Election Fraud, start with this. We begin our coverage this hour with cnns kyung lah in georgia. Kyung, we are down to the final hours until this Crucial Senate run off election in georgia. And thats where you heard from Vice President elect Kamala Harris this afternoon. Whats she saying about this explosive audio . Reporter yeah, and lets remember why she matters so much here because if the democrats are able to flip these two seats in georgia, these Senate States and these democratic challengers win, then it would be Vice President elect Kamala Harris as the Vice President , she becomes a tiebreaker and the democrats effectively have control of the u. S. Senate and the house. So, that is what is at stalk here, and thats why you are hearing her really go after the president about this audio. Heres what she said. Have yall heard about that recorded conversation . Well, it was certainly the voice of desperation, most certainly that. And it was a bald, baldfaced bold abuse of power by the president of the United States. Now, lets review what has happened here in the state of georgia. There has not just been this election. You know, the first count. There was a statewide audit. There was a hand recount. And then there was a signature match in cobb county, one of the most populous counties here in the state of georgia. So, all this was done, ana, here in the state of georgia, and yet the president is still saying that on the phone call. And john, this is georgia. Even if the results from this election were somehow overturned, it wouldnt even make a difference in the overall result. Joe biden would still have more than 270 electoral votes to win. So, why do this . I think the president cannot accept the fact that he was defeated. Look, he is today the most powerful person on earth as the president of the United States. In 18 days, hes going to be a private citizen, 74 years old, with major legal and financial problems. Thats a big transition. Donald trump is also somebody who psychologically has found it very difficult to accept the idea that he could lose, be a loser. Thats that was that was part of his upbringing. We read about that in mary trumps book last year. Donald trump is struggling with the blow to his ego, his reputation, his image and he cant give it up. Hes going to have to give it up because hes lost the election and congress is going to end up certifying that Electoral College tally as all 50 states have. Joe biden is going to be president on january 20th, but he is going to be kicking and screaming all the way. John harwood and kyung lah, thank you both. Let me bring in democratic senator from maryland Chris Van Hollen now. Senator, what did you hear in this phone call . Well, ana, i heard a desperate president , delusional president who knows the walls are closing in on him and is trying his last great con. Hes gotten away with this so many times. Republican members of the congress have let him get away with it. But this time hes run up against a wall and you have both the secretary of state, the republican secretary of state and the governor of georgia standing up for what everybody else knows is reality, which is the fact that joe biden and Kamala Harris won in georgia. The president cant stand it, and hes looking for every way out. Whats been really, really despicable is to watch so Many Republican senators fuel this false narrative of the president. Senator dick durbin says this merits a criminal probe. Do you agree . Oh, it has all the elements of a criminal action because you have the president trying to illegally change the results of an election by essentially threatening the secretary of state and others here. So, i certainly think it merits a good look. Whether or not people decide to actually prosecute at some point, thats a separate issue. Obviously the president s facing many potential legal actions when he leaves office in 17 days. What can congress do about this . Well, in the short term, what i Hope Congress will do is resoundly reject the president s, you know, challenge and efforts to overturn the results. And congress will have a chance to do that on wednesday. And sadly, weve seen these republican senators, 12 of them now, line up to undermine our democracy as part of their own political ambition and support and spread these lies. I would say that in the case of the georgia senators, who of course, on the ballot on tuesday, theyve so far said nothing about the president s attack on the rule of law and the peoples will in the state of georgia. The people of georgia deserve to hear where they stand on this important matter. Have to say it crossed my mind as republicans are planning to mount this Electoral College dispute on wednesday. Will democrats will you be playing parts of this recording on the senate floor . Well, this recording just exposes the fact that all of this has been a pure power play by the president. His legal actions all ran dry. They were rejected overwhelmingly. And now hes taken to threatening. So, i would hope that this tape gives, you know, some pause to republican seinators who might otherwise have been planning to go along with this charade. Shadi sadly what weve seen time and again is them feeding his process. Theyve appeased him time and again. Theyve created this monster who has really devoured the Republican Party. I have to say, ana, we will definitely point to this recording as an example of how the president is trying to bully his way to overturning the election. What weve seen from republicans time and again, so many of them, is this willingness to feed the president s delusions. Have you been in touch with any of your republican colleagues today . Could this be a red line for any of those people who havent, you know, up to this point at least broken with the president . Ive not spoken with any of them today. I was heartened by some of the statements that weve seen from people like senator toomey and senator sasse, senator mitt romney. Those obviously were important statements. But right now they represent a relatively small number of the republican caucus. Hopefully that perspective will gain traction. And on wednesday, well have a chance to debate it. And i think its going to be really important, ana, that those republican senators who are going to stand for upholding the rule of law and against overturning this election based on this fraudulent nare had tra going to be really important that they stand up and speak very clearly and forcefully. Senator ted cruz is one of the 12 gop senators expected to object to the certification of joe bidens election win on wednesday. Heres how he defended that decision. Dismissing these claims, i think, does real violence to our democratic system. We ought to have a serious fair process and tribunal to consider these claims, consider them quickly, consider them expeditiously. We can do it in ten days before the inauguration. I think that would take major steps towards reestablishing trust in our democratic process. Senator, whats your response . This is such a charade, and he really should be embarrassed. He knows better. Whats happened here of course is the president has fed a lie, and instead of standing up to it, senator cruz and others have fed that lie. And now theyre saying oh, millions of americans have fallen for what we have said. And therefore we have to have this commission to show that the lies that weve been telling are not really true. That is a bunch of nonsense, and i do think most people see through it. And their own Senate Republican colleagues th colleagues have called out what this is. This is the beginning of the race for the 2024 republican president ial nomination. And you see a lot of these trump wan wanna bes, at least republican senators who want to pick up the trump following. And instead of standing up for the constitution and protecting their oath of office, theyre engaging in this antidemocratic farce. And it really is a sad day for the Republican Party when they engage in this kind of activity. Unfortunately its what weve come to expect. Bottomline, its not going to change the outcome. Joe biden is going to be sworn in as president on january 20th. But does this have long term consequences . Youre right. The good news is in 17 days joe biden and Kamala Harris will be sworn in. The bad news is donald trump is there for another 17 days and, as weve seen, can do a lot of damage. And the damage is long term. This does eat away at Public Confidence in our democracy. And you do have these millions of americans who have, you know, been fed this false narrative. Joe biden has made it clear, hes going to work very hard to unite the country. But what these republican senators are doing is making it that much harder because theyre, again, engaging in this lie that somehow donald trump was cheated out of an election. So, this is just going to mean that joe bidens task is that much harder. Were all going to have to come together as americans to try to make sure that we can tackle those challenges. What were seeing from, you know, the like of senator ted cruz and senator hawley obviously is poisoning the well. Senator Chris Van Hollen, i appreciate your time this evening. Thanks for joining us. We will all be watching very, very closely come wednesday. Yes, good to be with you. Thanks. Youll hear much more of the stunning conversation between President Trump and brad raphe raphe as we continue in the news room. Well also talk about the legality of all of this next. Get ready our most popular battery is now even more powerful. The stronger, lastslonger energizer max. Less sick days cold coming on . Zicam® is clinically proven to shorten colds highly recommend it zifans love zicams unique zinc formula. It shortens colds zicam zinc that cold combative yelling he used to have bad breath. Now, he uses a capful of therabreath fresh breath oral rinse to keep his breath smelling great, all day long. combative yelling therabreath, its a better mouthwash. 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Weve talked to the congressmen and they were surprised, but they mr. Reynard came to these meetings and presented data, and he said that there was dead people upward of 5,000. The actual number was 2. 2 people that were dead that voted. How do you respond to that . You tell me . I will say, mr. Secretary, one of the things that we have requested and what we said was if you look at this, if you read our petition, it said that we took the name and birth years and we had certain Information Available to us. We have asked from your office for records that only you have. And so we said theres a universe of people who have the same name and same birth year and die, but we dont have the records that you have. And one of the things that we have been suggesting formally and informally for weeks now is to try is for you to make available to us the records that would be necessary to confirm even before you do that even before you do that, and not even including it. Thats why i hardly even included that number. Although in one state we have a tremendous amount of dead people. So, i dont know. Im sure we do in georgia too. Im sure we do in georgia too. Is that were so far ahead were so far ahead of these numbers, even the phony ballots of [ bleep ] known scammer you are know the internet . You know what was trending on the internet . Wheres [ bleep ] because they thought they would be in jail. Wheres [ bleep ] . Its crazy. Its crazy. The minimum number is 18,000 for [ bleep ] but they think its about 56,000. But the minute numb is 18,000 where she ran back in there when everybody was gone. She stuffed the ballot boxes, lets face it brad. They did it in slow motion replay magnified, right . She stuffed the ballot boxes. They were stuffed like nobodys ever seen them stuffed before. Theres a term for it when its a machine instead of a ballot box. But she stuffed the machines. She stuffed the ballot. Each each ballot went three times. They were showing heres ballot number one. Heres a second, third time. Next ballot. I mean, look, brad, this is we have a new tape that were going to release. Its devastating. And by the way, that one event, that one event, is much more than the 11,000 votes that were talking about. Its, you know, that one event was a disaster. Its just you know, but it was it was something that it cant be disputed. Yet again we have a version that you havent been seeing, but its magnified. Its magnified and you can see everything. And she put for some reason they put it in three times, each ballot, and i dont know why. I dont know why three times. Why not five times, right . But yeah, go ahead . Youre talking about the state farm video. And i think its extremely unfortunate that Rudy Giuliani or his people, they sliced and diced that video and took it out of context. So, the next day we brought in wsp. The events that transpired are nowhere near what was projected by but where were the poll watchers, brad . There were no poll watchers there. There were no democrats or republicans. It was late in the evening or early in the morning and there was no one else in the room. Why did they say