Facing a potential revolt from his farright flank over his plan to bring three different foreign aid bills to the floor this weekend . Its a move his fiercest critics say, could ultimately cost him the speakership. But Speaker Johnson tells me hes not worried about what could happen. Hes going to do what he thinks is right. Even if the bill gets democratic votes this is very simple. Im operating with the smallest margin in us story. I have a o ve margin oy. So in order to getomhing into this underlying package, we have to havthe tes in the orida pass aule. I dont ha all mrepublicans who agree on that ru. And a rule on the floor or is that it requires a couple of democrats ls Speaker Johnson explaining why there isnt. A tougher border measures this legislation as many House Republicans want there to be coming up anjust moments. E of those republicans, coressman chip roy of texas, is goi to ta to ushe said today hes passed the point of giving gra to the speaker. Whats hiresponse to what . We just heard . All ask them, but were going to start with cnns chief Congressional CorrespondenManu Raju MinusSpeaker Johnson admiing, saying the quietart out loud, he needs democratshe you know, hes i onlyave a one vote majity and im only doing this because i wont get support fromepublicans on that whats going to hpen . Do you think hes gointo get the votes . For this packe . And will democrats ultimately save his speakership if it comes wno itt seems that the directis aded. Jake, he had made a Calculat Dision to me on the licy a the process. Exactly Whathe Democrats had waed. They wanted to tie israelid with ukraine aid. And ulmately ithe process of somewhat convoluted proce, they plan to eventually get to the poinwhere this will be alone bipackage, probably totaling about 95illion on the speakeincated to you there might be some changes here and tre around the edgesan part this is very milar to the bi that passed the unite stes senate aboutwo months ago. And thais one big reason why democrats are alg that they may veryl come to Speaker Johnsons defense. Ill just put the day speaking toublicansnd Democrats Up And Down The Le Ery ear that democrats or the pus arbadly divided on this subject t this bill and about Ether Johnson deseed to remain a speaker is your support for yr motion to vacate growing it is growing i think some people are becoming more angryhan i am so this well see what happens today. I dont know how lg people argoing to tolerate this becaushs Ing Nothing Bu Seing the democrats i vent made up my minyet m not happy about this rule a brink here. What you think that far efforts to try to oust him from the job, i thi its horrendous. I think hes dissvice to the conservativveme. I think itits a disservice to the country so the way this is going to break down jake is that on saturday, we eect therell be fully are four ut different packag, three of which ha been leased so far. Fourth onisxpected to come out sometime today. That will be those bills will be approved on sarday, likely a house will approve that. Therell be ere needs to be a procedural vote first to take up that bill. Typically,hose procedural votes are done along party lines, but thats not going happen this time democrats are going to save this rule from going down to allow the underlying bill from going for and what has Anger Mode Fol on the ght is the decision by the speaker of the house to move Boer Security Measures as a separate bill on Border Security along a separate track, it will not be includ as part of this big foreign aid package, even as johnson had indicated for months, that Border Security must be tied with ukraine aid, many of those repuicans are y now gunning for m and saying that he should be out from the speakership cause of that decision . Yeah they they they hate the notion of him getting democratic votes, although in order to vacate Speaker Johnson, twill need and rely upon democratic votes i dont know if u heard our interview with adam schi, democratic congressman, but i asked hiif democrats were going to save the spear, if need be, and he said, bacally im raphrasi, but along the lines of ithis bill, the legislation hes presting is just the Senate Foreign aid bi broken up. Then he started lking about chef, Talkg Abou You know, Wther Ssilities about enough counterbalancing whatever the repuicans are that go f the reserve that didote agait speaker Johnn Democts not voting at all, or disappearing. I mean, there were a whole bunch of hypothals he was talng about that hadnt en asked about yeah. T look, that ia reality of the situation now, Hakeem Jeffries, the democratic leader, has node a final decision about how he wants his membership to come down. His decision will beey. But in talking to rk and file Demo Congrats Iluding congressman like you just spoke to adam schiff there indicating that they are very willing to save speaker Josobecausof The Decision to move ahead on ukraine aid. And that d to be part of johnson calculation herehe knew republicans were nevegog to fall in line on that issue, but democrats what and this is difft than the fall when Mekevin Mccarthy was oued by democrats and eight republicans this time, congressman tom suozzi of new york, told me that he would vote to keep my johnson in the job. Adam smith of Washington State indicated that he might as well asell as Jared Moskowitz of florida im ju a month, the few who are indicating that they areot support this effort to oust mike johnson and Hakeem Jeffries says, its time to save mike johnson. Thawill happen. The big question though jake, can johnson survives the speakership propped up by democrats . Thats going to be ju question for johnson. Andrew conference. All right, manu raju, thanks so much. Lets bring in cs political director, David Chalian perspeive House Speaker mike johnson just telling me how the Speakership Jois effectively right now. One vote he, by the way, some of the, some of threason tt the marity so small is because some House Repcans left and did so in a way, left early and did so in a way so as to keep a majority people that theyhink are ith ruining the pl you he the senate also. Meanwhile, e same exact time wrappingp mayorkas, department of st homeland thank security. Secretary, everyone knewt was going to go nowhere. Lets just start with this moment in histy, which i think its fair tsay, there is some publicans inisarray. Mean, when you think out Cabinet Secretarin 150 years at republican Severa Republans themselves said did not meet the threshold of high crimes and misdemeanors the entire trial was done within 3. 5 hours and so clely democrats werent taking it seriously. But even some the threshd. Ad didnt meet you have republicans, perhaps poed to oust there. Second eaker in six months time. Most Coervative Speaker in the hissed modern history of this congrs, as they they are holding e majority of the use of representatives is e one slice of goverent they in charge of. And th may just go rough this selfimmation exercise again speaker all while the wn republican nominee for esident anthe former president is sitting as a criminal defendant on trial in new york, awaiting Jury Selection to be pleaded in this first criminal case of his. Its just iis a moment where you step back and say, you know, Fiction Writers would write each one of these things and you wouldnt believe its all happening in the same de to broad itd be too on the nose. Netflix would say now that would never happen. Theyve at chalian thank so much. Its a busy afternoon here at the lead because its a busy afternoon on capitol hill. 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Com if you or a loved one have Mesothelial Mac will send you a free book to answer questions you may have call now and well come to you read eight 4,000 busy day here at the lead, were back with more in our politics lead joining us now to discuss everything going on on capitol hill right now as republican congressman, chip roy of texas congressman. Thank you so much for joining us. I want to play a clip of what Speaker Johnson just told me about his view of the importance of passing the foreign aid bills that are going to come before theouse. I believe on satday, take a listen and were going to stand dear friend and we going to that vlamir putin doesnt e rch through europe. These are importanresponbilities. A stngmerics good for the entire world since world war ii, really, relyhe responsibility forhe free world s been shiftednto our shlders but u disagree with them. Why is that case not good enough forou . Really disagree with anyontr in the broadse of the e words. In ct, i wrote oped yesterday out our need to snd right aloside it. Israel i believe that in stngly i tried last night all the way till midnight owes and get uso put a Israel Burst O bill on thfloor. Ts just focus on israel. G a rule that lets focus on that and then have a debate about with respect to it. And is funding. My concern about is packe is its 95 of foreign aid when a we 30 to and a half trillion dollars in debt. But beere also dealing th yearas you know, has been the importance of making sure we secure the borders of the United States so we ve 24,000 over 24,00chinese nationals, 85 of whom are sing adults than all of last this fiscal year. We, more than 381. Thats it. 38that we had in 2021the last yr, psident trumps tenure in terms of the fiscal year. So the reality but he is we need to do that and do our job. I would love to d what we n to support israel again, i suprt it. Ut in this 95 blion package, theres 9 billion and humanitarian aid, Whicif You Go Look at well, w it goes tware the same kinds of organizations,ot unrwa, because weoothat out a couple oweeks ago. But that goes to fund hamas. So we funding israel, ich i pport. But were also funding israels enemies and funding has this is the kind ofuplicitouscrap the American People are red up. So id like to go back to the drawing board, pass israel stand alone and not have this package that has that funding and it did that i think is nefarious and focus on t rder first. So in tms of the border issue, i asked him a lot of House Republicans nts to have strengthening the border, tougher restrictions frictions on t border, and iigration, et cetera. As partf this, why isnt it pt of it and said its very simple. Have history of the congrs. I can only lose one vote and therefor because there are so many republicans who will vote against the rule to introduce this legislation that he would need demratic votes to introduce the rule to allow the votes on this legislatn. Aemocrats wont have, they wont vote for anything that includes the Immigration Stuff and ats why he just, you know, this is the reality of it and i just wonder if by, opposing everything your group of people who are, who are upset with what the speaker is doing if you havent taken yourself out of relevance in terms of whats in the bill. If you were committed to, i will vote for the role as long as you put in immigration restrictions, then you might have more of an influence on what hes bringing to the floor for a vote on saturday . Yeah. Jake, so i told the speaker last night, number one, that we had full unanimity among the Freedom Caucus in particular. And that we could advance israel to the floor and support the role and have a vote on that and then i said that i believe that we could get agreement on the rules certainly would have my support on moving a rule forward if you had ukraine with Border Security attachment, Border Security, i offer numerous options. Right. Not just hr to take it or leave it, but some variations of hr into maybe you could take out a verify and be able to move it along with it because theres some ag community i have some concerns about it. I mean, i support you verify, but there are things we could do to try to move it around. Theres a Voter Identification that weve got legislation that were working on that ive been working on with the speaker on theirs other issues that we could deal with, just stop the abuse of parole. These are all things that we threw out there as options. We dont know what the rule vote would look like because weve never tried thats the truth. We never tried to send over an actual Border Security package with ukraine, so that we can make clear to our democratic colleagues. The other side of the island, the senate and the white house that were serious about that. And to the American People want to see that first because were dealing with that crisis from laken riley to the bodys washing up in the rio grande to the ranch devastation to the cause