Transcripts For CNNW The Lead With Jake Tapper 20140723 : vi

Transcripts For CNNW The Lead With Jake Tapper 20140723

Also in world news, the faa barring u. S. Flights into israels Busiest Airport for another 24 hours, but secretary of state john kerry still managed to land there. What can he say or do to help end the fighting . Hi there. Im Brianna Keilar filling in for jake tapper. In our world lead, in a moment well bring you the incredible images from the netherlands as the country finally receives the remains from flight 17. The faa extended its ban to israels main airport for another 24 hours after a rocket from gaza landed close to the airport on tuesday, but one prominent jewishamerican says he isnt the least bit afraid to fly into israel and hes putting his considerable money where his mouth is. Michael bloomberg, former mayor of new york flew intotel aviv, el al, calling the flying restrictions a mistake giving hamas an undeserved victory. Wolf blitzer is standing by live in jerusalem. Wolf . Reporter brianna, thanks very much. Mayor bloomberg is here with erekat, the mayor of jerusalem. This decision that you made, tell our viewers back home. I wanted to do something personally to show my support for standing up for whats right. I think israel is doing that. Hamas is trying to kill the palestinians and kill the israelis and somebody has to say that theyve got to stop this and along comes the faa which i think mead a mistake and i hope theyll rectify it soon, but they say they didnt want american planes flying into the worlds most secure airport and so i decided i would take a trip over here on the worlds most secure airline going to the worlds most secure airport. Its a good lesson for all of us how to run security. Unfortunately in america too many times we find people walking across runways and people not claiming baggage afterward and its a good lesson how to run an airline and how to run an airport and the faa should try to make sure that american airports and American Airlines polo what is done here and we certainly dont want to stop flights into airports in america. It would be devastating for america. Its devastating for israel when you stop flights in. I want to clarify, when you say hamas is trying to kill palestinians. Hamas is hiding among palestinians and firing rockets at israelis knowing full well the israelis have no choice, but to do anything they can to stop the carnage of the rockets falling on Israeli Citizens and knowing full well that if israel does come in and do that civilians, sadly, are going to also suffer. The whole notion of coming here, the faa has extended another 24 hours, this ban on united, u. S. Airways and delta. All planes registered in the United States including private ones. Reporter but dont you think theyre primarily concerned, its their job to protect american passengers and they saw this pocket come into near ben garrin airport and they want to err on the side of caution especially with what happened in ukraine. Im sure they do, but if you would have a standard you would close every airport in the United States. You close down every airline. Unfortunately, our security isnt very good then. The real world is and there are things going near airports all over the world. Ben gurion airport because israel has been threatened since it was formed in 1948 is the most secure air pportairport, e because it is the most secure airport of israel is the most secure airline and you have to take reasonable precautions, but you cant shut down everything just because one terrorist on the other side of the world will say youre a threat. Reporter heres what folks will say, we know youre a pilot. Are you suggesting that the faa is being politicized, if you will. I have no idea. You have to call the faa. I didnt write the statement. I dont know what they said and you cant put words n my mouth. Im just telling you what i think about the faa. They are wellmeaning, its a great organization. They make airlines and airports safe in america, but not as safe as ben gurion and el al are. The the fact that a rocket falls a mile away doesnt mean you should shut down air traffic into a country and paralyze the country. Let me ask the mayor of jerusalem and heres what the faa said today, the faa is working closely with the government of israel to review the new information they have provided and to determine if potential risks to u. S. Civil aviation are mitigated so the agency can resolve concerns as quickly as possible. Heres the question, do you trust the faa that is providing Accurate Information to pilots, airlines and the american traveling public that maybe its not a wise time to fly in and out of israel. Well, the Israeli Government and Israeli Air Force and Israeli Security forces care about americans and israelis the same, about anybody. So i anticipate that were talking about rockets that are fired indiscriminately. This is not a missile. Not a guided missile like the one that took down the plane in russia and if we would have thought that there was a risk for anybody i would call michael and say dont come. On the contrary, this is an indiscriminate rocket. We know how to protect it, follow our strategy. Follow the iron dome, if it would have been problematic rocket we would have taken it down. So the security in ben gurion and in israel is as good as it gets and i want to repeat and thank michael for his leadership in coming here. The reality is that the risks coming to israel is minimal and if it would be larger we would take the initiative and tell everyone not to come here. Reporter as soon as the faa announced it didnt want u. S. Carriers to fly to israel the europeans did the same thing. Thats not true. British airways had the courage to fly. Lufthansa and klm, most European Airlines arent flying in and out of israel either. British airlines is. El al is, and they have to make their decisions and we have to stand up and do whats right and you cant get cowed when everyone says something and everybody goes on the side of ultimate caution. Thats how terrorists win, wolf. Cant do that. Reporter heres the statement from hamas today, and i want both of you toy react, ad this is from the spokesman. The resistance arrest from stopping traffic and isolating israel is a great victory for hamas. That is probably true. Someone that came close to doing any damage to any airline has paralyzed air traffic which is the only way we get around this day and age arne another country. If they were to say that about jfk, what would you expect us to do . Mr. Mayor, what do you say when hamas boasts that this is a great victory for them, the decision by the faa to stop u. S. Carriers from flying in and out of israel . If somebody scares you and goes boo and you get scared its your problem. Were not scared. We think its a nonissue. If we thought it was an issue and we would guide all, including and first of all, el al to maybe do Something Else than the normal, but right now, residents of israel, americans, europeans fly all airlines. Theyre all the same for us and the reality is that if hamas goes boo and you get scared youre helping hamas get goals. Youre spending the day in israel. A couple of days ago the state department issued a travel advisory saying americans shouldnt come for nonessential visits to israel or the west bank. Couldnt disagree with them more. Reporter what has it been like . Youve been here several times. Everybody seems comfortable. Everybody thinks theyre well protected by an army and an air force that knows how to fight and is out there trying to protect them, and when they walk down the streets, when they send their kids to school, when they go to the parks, when they get to a concert they feel safe. If youre not if you dont feel safe here, i dont know where youd feel safe and i think the state department is overreacting in typical bureaucratic fashion. Reporter political reasons for that . Why would you think that, wolf . Dont be ridiculous, why would you think that . Its an outrage to accuse one of our agencies by by asking the question youre implying that our government does things for political reasons and maybe every once in a while they do and its your job to prove it, i personally take as an offense. Reporter no, im just asking you if you thought there was a political motive behind the travel advisory or the faa decision. Number one, i dont know. I dont know, you dont know and the other people dont know. But just the tone of the question of trying to create dissension is insulting to america. Reporter what do you think . When terrorives try to terrorize us the reality is that the ability is minimal especially with the Israeli Government does in protection with security and the offense, same. You walk the streets of the city of jerusalem and speak to people. We just met a group of american teachers that came here for a week and we dead them, how safe do they feel . They feel safer as they do at home, at least as good if not safer. You walk the streets and go to the restaurants and go to all around the country, practically and people are very cautious, but running their lives as usual and we dont get scared from terrorists. As a matter of fact, well haunt them and hit them. Reporter you know so much of israels economy is based on tourism. Its a huge export. It absolutely is. Reporter the tour first ist not coming right now because theyre worried about whats going on. Why do you think that . Reporter because there is a war with hamas. Ive never seen statistics that tourism slowed down and now you will sea know outflow of people to demonstrate that they value their freedoms and if you take away the the freedoms of the people here youll be taking away the freedoms no matter where they come from. Reporter tourism is down, right . One tourist came here tonight and i want to thank michael for his leadership and the reality is that its not real and thats what terrorists try to do. They try to terrorize you. They try to fear you and the best way to fight terrorism is exactly to go on with your normal life. And thats what we did in new york city. We didnt let the journalists scare everybody away. More people live in downtown new york than before 9 11. More businesses are down there. Today its become a Thriving Community and all of those people the talking heads that kept saying it was the end of new york, they couldnt have been more wrong because new yorkers and americans pulled together and you see the same thing happening over here of israelis and people in jerusalem. Mr. Mayor, thank you for joining us. Mr. Mayor, thank you as well. You are also ive been here for almost two weeks. How secure do you feel . You want to make sure thats on of television. People are watching you right now back in the United States. Theyll be watching you around the world on cnn international. Everybody watches cnn. Gentlemen, thanks very much for joining us. Brianna, you heard it right here, the former mayor of new york and the current mayor of jerusalem. Back to you in washington. It was interesting to hear former mayor bloomberg take issue with the question of whether this is politics that were seeing this travel ban for many u. S. Flights into tel aviv. Tell us what youre hearing there if in israel. Were also hearing this from politicians here in the u. S. Reporter well, some of the israelis, if you read the israeli newspapers and you listen to the media they suspect there is an element of politics in this. They dont necessarily trust the faa. They dont necessarily, at least if you listen to some of the critics in israel trust the obama administration. They think there may be a political motivation to try to squeeze israel right now into accepting some sort of ceasefire, but you hear that on the streets of israel and you hear that among some israelis and certainly that will be strongly, strongly disputed by officials back in washington. Great interview, wolf. Thank you so much. Coming up on the lead, he stood with his fellow dutch citizens as the victims of flight 17 made their way through the streets of the netherlands. Next well talk about the outpouring of grief and how his country can move forward. Plus parents speak of the heartbreak of losing their three Young Children and living in a hell beyond hell. Stay with us, well be right back. Wpurina dog chow. Lories n isnt it time you discovered the lighter side of dog chow. Purina dog chow light healthy. And cialis for daily use helps you be Ready Anytime the moment is right. Cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved to treat symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently. 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Welcome back to kwthe lead im Brianna Keilar filling in for jake tapper. Days passed before a train carrying the remains from Malaysia Airlines flight 17 was finally allowed to leave rebelcontrolled ushg crane. Today a week after the plane was shot out of the sky the first group of bodies restoring dignity. They got a chance to pour out their of groo over a national loss. 40 bodies in coffins were flown back to the netherlands loaded into hearse after hearse. Then a procession formed to make yet another leg of this journey. The mourning dutch people lining roadways and overpasses. Flight 17 had an International Passenger list though post of the 298 people onboard were dutch citizens. The procession taking a long drive to its final stop, a Dutch Military base. Its likely that some in those coffins are finally back in their homeland, but we dont know for sure who is inside each of them and finding out could take weeks or months until forensic tefrting is complete. 74 more coffins will be flown to the netherlands tomorrow. On the phone now we have rosenthal, a dutch reporter who was there to utsch what all of this unfold. Elko, these are the kind of stories that its really tough to distance yourself from as a report er. Tell us what you and the people of the netherlands are feeling right now. It is, you are completely right. Its not something you ever expect to report on when theyre of your own country, it doesnt matter where it happens, its always terrible, but the the plane landing in the netherlands with coffins coming out, about 48 with many, many more coming, thats just its really difficult to explain and difficult to see and you notice that across the netherlands today that people were quiet. People usually are not quiet in this country. This time they were and they were standing on bridges and overpasses just watching this, and i was at the army base when the coffins arrived, and people were silent first and then they started applauding when the coffins came in and you get goosebumps. Its not something youre used to and not something you want to get used to. Something we were struck by eelco, watching that there were cars stopped on the road and people walking off of offramps so that they could go up and line the roads here. Were you surprised by the outpouring by the fact that there were so many people who really wanted to pay respects to these passing hearses and these bodies as they came in . I wasnt even surprised because ive been here for the past week and this happened on thursday evening, and of those 298 passengers and 2 hun of them we were dutch nationals and there has been grief ever since. This is a very small country and its not that everyone knows one another, but its 16 million or 17 Million People so its easy to know somebody who knew somebody that was on the plane. That goes for me. That goes for my friends and my colleagues and so im not surprised. They always say the dutch are they keep to themselves and theyre not too emotional, but when it comes to Something Like this, i think thats a cliche that goes overboard. Yeah. We saw today what this country is made of, i believe. We sure did here watching. I wonder, you said people were quiet, but i wonder knowing that this was no accident as well. All signs point to this being essentially a crime. Was there any anger that you saw today . Not today, actually. Of course, there is anger, but i think this was a national day of mourning and our First National day of mourning since 1962. Its not something that happens every day. Of course, there is a lot of anger, but this day was very important. The first coffins coming in, more over the next few days and the bodies back in ukraine are at least in safe territory and they cannot be used as a bargaining chip anymore. So one phase of this process, i think, has almost been finished now and now the next phase stars and yes, there is a lot of anger and this was a crime and people want to make sure that that crime is being resolved, and the dutch will lead the the investigation into this crime and fortunately, there is a lot of in

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