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CNNW The Lead With Jake Tapper November 18, 2015

Abdelhamid abaaoud, his relatives and his terrorist ties. The operations continued until just before noon with shootouts lasting nearly an hour. Sources say the commandos bod bardment was so intense it collapsed an entire floor in one building here, making the work of gathering evidence all the more challenging. French Authorities Say they arrived just in the nick of time. That another attack was imminent. The first blast detonated around 4 30 a. M. And continued for hours. A third explosion reporter all within earshot of cnns atika shubert. Fourth. That was much larger. Reporter as day broke eight arrests had been made. The dead are still being identified with no confirmation the ringleader has been stopped. You can see french authorities, French Police inspecting the damage at the site of these apartment raids early this morning. French Authorities Say that two suspected terrorists were killed in the raids including a woman who blew herself up using a suicide vest. We see a lot of damage with windows blown out and concrete damaged from the Early Morning raids. We dont know whats from, what the police did and what is from the suicide vest. Sources say that woman was the cousin of the ringleader, including her suicide ten people were killed or captured overnight. Potentially more than doubling the size and scope of the terror cell responsible for fridays massacres. For neighbors here the most dramatic battle in the newly declared war on isis hit much too close to home. I kept lying on the floor because i was scared to, you know, be hit by stray bullets. So i didnt sleep since 4 30 in the morning. Reporter susan huddled on her floor for five hours last night and this morning trying to stay safe. She has lived in france for 25 years, but after this week of violence she says shes ready to pack up and go. Its really unbelievable knowing that, you know, just behind your building someone could blow up any time. So it was a horrible feeling. Reporter belgium Authorities Say the man that Law Enforcement aimed for here, abaaoud, has been plotting a rolling series of attacks against france with senior isis officials. One of those plots, police say, was thwarted last night just before being carried out. Whether there are still terrorists planning destruction in france right now is the focus of ongoing investigations. With additional raids likely to uncover much more. Our Clarissa Ward is now live for us at the site of these raids. Clarissa, we were both at one point today on the rooftop near that scene. What is happening at the site of the raids right now . Well, theres a sort of very uneasy calm here at the moment. This is a very tough parisian neighborhood, jake. But as residents told you, they told us the same thing. They have never seen anything like this. One resident told me it felt like a war zone. Seven hours those raids lasted according to the police. More than 5,000 bullets fired by police. And when we were up on that roof we were able to see Forensic Experts combing through the apartment. And thats partly because theyre now saying they cant be 100 sure that the person who blew themselves up with that suicide vest was in fact the female cousin because the body has been so damaged and destroyed by the force of that blast. So theyre working to confirm that that was indeed the female cousin. And of course theyre also trying to find out who was the other attacker or suspect, terrorist, who was killed in that apartment, taken out by a police sniper. And certainly for people in this neighborhood, jake, theyre saying that with abaaoud still possibly on the loose and with the other the eighth alleged attacker who police have been looking for for days now, salah abdelsalam, theres no sense here that people are feeling relaxed or feeling more comfortable. Quite the reverse in fact. Theyre wondering if there are going to be more raids like this and more possible attacks in coming days, jake. Clarissa ward, thank you so much. This just in to cnn. What appears to be another act of terror in france according to the prosecutor in marseille, thats southern france. Three young men on scooters stopped and stabbed a teacher from a jewish school. This is all from the local prosecutor in marseille. One of the young attackers was reportedly wearing a tshirt with, quote, an isis symbol, according to the prosecutor. These three young men insulted the teacher, threatened to kill him and then they stabbed him in the stomach, arm and legs. The teacher was not critically hurt, were told. The attackers are still on the loose. Also just in to cnn this hour, were learning that five men allegedly from syria have been detained in Central America with fake passports. And were told that they were possibly intending to travel to the United States through its southern border. I want to get right to cnns evan perez. Evan, what are you learn sng. Well, jake, theres been a couple of these incidents recently in the last week for instance on the dutch island caribbean island of san martin. Authorities there detained three men that they believe are of syrian origin who are traveling on fake greek passports. And theyve now kicked that information up to u. S. Law enforcement. And in reference to the five n hondurans, prosecutors say they really traveled on this trail from syria through lebanon, turkey and then to south america, including brazil, argentina before finally making their way to honduras. They were arrested or detained. And they had plans to travel to the north of the country. From there, again, the supposition according to local authorities they might have been intending to travel to the United States. Let me put in context what is happening. U. S. Authorities tell me that one of the things thats happening in the wake of the paris attacks is that theyre sharing a great deal more information include iing information on the databases of false passports, false travel documents that really is the source or the way migrants around the world get around. And so it may well be that these are simply migrants who lost their documents as they try to get out of syria. This is a problem that the u. S. Has known about for many, many years. And theres great deal of concern, jake, that terrorists could exploit this we know some of them are using these documents to get back and forth undetected including the concern is about foreign fighters, especially in europe who are sneaking back in using these false documents. Again, right now its not known what the intentions of these travelers are theyre investigating, jake. All right, evan perez, thank you so much. French authorities cannot say for sure if they killed the man they believe planned friday eastfriday fridays terrorist attacks in paris. What we do know about abdelhamid abaao abaaouds background and how he might have escaped todays raid, that story next. Big day . Ah, the usual. Moved some new cars. Hauled a bunch of steel. Kept the supermarket shelves stocked. Made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. Whats up for the next shift . Ah, nothing much. Just keeping the lights on. laugh nice. Doing the big things that move an economy. See you tomorrow, mac. See you tomorrow, sam. Just another day at norfolk southern. Coughing. Sniffling. And wishing you could stay in bed all day. When your cold is this bad. You need new theraflu expressmax. Theraflu expressmax combines. Maximum strength medicines available without a prescription. To fight your worst cold and flu symptoms. So you can feel better fast and get back to the job at hand. New theraflu expressmax. The power to feel better. 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Officials telling cnn that intelligence from wiretaps led authorities to this apartment, the paris Prosecutor Says right now that he is not in custody, abaaoud. The question now, is he still alive . Is abaaoud on the run . Or is he the other person who was killed during this raid . Were joined now by cnn terrorism analyst paul cruickshank. Hes here with me in paris along with francois bernard, Senior Researcher at the French Institute for international and strategic affairs. Paul, let me start with you. Were belgium and french officials surprised that the paris organizer could possibly still be here in paris . Jake, they werent surprised, they were stunned when they discovered that there were strong indications that Abdelhamid Abaaoud was in paris. All these indications came in the last 24 hours. There was a wiretap, an intercepted communication indicating that the female cousin of Abdelhamid Abaaoud was at this residence in saintdenis. So theyre like, wow, he could also be there. He could also be at the residence. And the french were also developing other strong information suggesting he was in paris. They put it all together. They put a raid together this morning. And obviously we saw the hugely destructive impact of that raid with body remains scattered all over this half destroyed building. Thats really complicated the task of identifying whether his mortal remains are in the building or not. Theyre efforting dna testing, its going to take some time though to sort it out, jake. Right. Ivan watson was told by a belgium official that they believe that the other man on the run, the eighth terrorist who escaped on friday, salah abdelsalam, spent time in jail together with abaaoud. Very common. Very common. Earlier this year we found out that one of the Charlie Hebdo terrorists spent time in prison with the guy who carried out one of the brothers spent time and met each other in prison. This is a real problem. It is a real problem. We are all to various attacks last year in france, been in jail. And many of them have radicalized in prison. In prison they radicalized. What additional factor is that you make very good friends in jail. And its ideal place to form a very united terrorist group which use to violence and using guns. Paul, i cant think of a place thats better theoretically than prison to keep an eye of individuals like this if they do fall under the sway of extremists. But apparently well, its very hard. Unfortunately in europe theres a huge muslim prison population. And some of these muslims coming into prison and then getting exposed to these radical recruiters. And you see these youngsters who are getting involved in gangsterism and petty crime coming into the prisons, what do the radical recruiters say in they say you can atone for all that past bad behavior, all those sins by joining our cause. And they also sort of explain why they are part of it because you are corrupted by the infidel society. Gives them a sense of meaning, purpose, redemption. And mix this gangsterism with this extreme islamic interpretation. And we see a lot of these youngsters now joining isis. And one of the other things were told is that officials believe that the bomb maker, the person who helped them construct the vests is also still at large. How important is a bomb maker for an operation like this . Well, a technician is a specialist, so is rather precious. Generally they try to keep them alive for the next time. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Paul, francois bernard. We are just learning some new information, the names of those rounded up in this mornings raids and their possible links to the terrorist attacks on friday. How are they all connected . Plus, does a new photograph change the investigation into the bombing of a russian jet by isis . Well also have that story coming up. If i want to go up. Hello. If i want to go down. Nooo. But, then if i want to come back again. Yes. 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These are our neighbors. These are the people that we work with. That matters to me. I have three children that are going to grow up here and i want them to be able to enjoy all the things that i was able to enjoy. Together, were building a better california. Welcome back to the lead. Im jake tapper coming to you live from paris where right now intelligence officials are scrambling to try to determine exactly how the suspects who were killed or collared during the raid early this morning are connected to friday night nights terrorist carnage. Of particular concern to investigators how many more possible isis terrorists could be out there, out here in france. Cnns chief National Security correspondent jim sciutto joins me now live to take us through what we know. Jim, still so many questions about whether or not this is one large isis Terror Network or many different smaller ones. Absolutely. But one thing is clear that the size of this network, at least what we know about it, grew by two times today. This mornings operation weve essentially doubled the number of terrorists and potential terrorists that are operating in france including those involved in both fridays attacks and those apprehended or killed this morning in police raids in saintdenis. Law enforcement moved in on this apartment complex there north of paris. After they gathered information including intercepted communications leading them to believe that the reported ringleader Abdelhamid Abaaoud may have been at that raid location before the police moved in. Abaaoud he is a 27yearold belgium jihadist who spent time in syria. He is wellknown to both french and u. S. Law enforcement officials. And was believed to be behind a thwarted january plot in belgium to kill policemen there. And that failed attack on a high speed train in august you may remember was disrupted by three americans. Eight people in total d

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