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He says he consultedwith dr. Birx, dr. Fauci and dr. Redfield of the cdc. They gave the governors this packet here. We are going through it with the guidelines. He says this is what he is going to announce later formally at the press briefing. Jake what he told these governors on this call according to a source who had access to it, what they told our colleague ryan nobles was the president was talked about this phased reopening of the country, reiterating that idea he believes some states can start to open before that may 1 deadline saying they should feel comfortable based on their own data. If they do, though, he did acknowledge there are some states that will not be ready to do it by then so the question really, how did these states take this . A lot as you seen today, they established their own guidelines. Thats not just the states on the east coast and west coast. We also saw midwest states join us to make their own partnership for how they are going to coordinate this rollout. Though the president sid day you are going to call your own shots, the call thats notable, given what the president has been saying, he has the authority to determine what these states are going to do. If he doesnt like what theyre doing, he can close it down, he said. Caitlin, President Trump also spoke to senators about his plans for a reopening of the country. He pushed back when senators called for more thorough, widespread testing. Yeah, this is the second day in a row the president has heard the same concern. Yesterday from Business Executives. Today from a Bipartisan Group of senators saying they are worried about the lack of testing. They want it ramped up before the country and their states are going to start reopening. We are told the president pushed back on that, talking about how they had increased testing in the u. S. , which we know, because it was pretty abiz malat the beginning. But the question is, is it adequate enough to start opening up these states . And Business Executives yesterday were saying they want it to be higher, if they want to open their stores to consumers and consumers feel comfortable going in, its not as though the president is heeding those calls, this is something that has been a persistent message to him this week. I dont know of any governors who think testing is widespread enough, its up to speed where they need to be. Thank you so much. New yorks Governor Andrew Cuomo made it clear that they were not ready tore open until at least may 15th. We have gone after the testing agents a few months ago, wed be in a very different position tan we are today. I cant simply wait for the federal governments guidance, but ill listen when it comes. Reporter testing critical for any move forward, minnesotas governor wants to test 5,000 people a day before considering any substantial reopening. In new york, Governor Andrew Cuomo calling for the federal government to step up, while also offering insight into how hell determine when businesses can reopen. This is not just government deciding. Its government deciding with private businesses who now have to take a look at this new normal. This new reality, and tell us how they think they can adjust to it. One of our questions in evaluations is how essential is that interests service . Reporter as the president promises new guidelines, states continue with their own. New mandates in new york, connecticut, maryland and pennsylvania for face coverings, extensions for social distancing. Current orders elsewhere needing some pushback. Protesters on the votstreets in ohio, kentucky, and michigan which have some of the strictest stayathome measures. The fact of the measure its too dangerous to be people out and about unnecessarily. Reporter the mayor warning it could spread, forcing the order to stay in place longer. Oklahomas governor extending stayat home for the most vulnerable populations through may 6th while also looking to reopen. We need to keep up our guard, we are looking and we are working on a plan to safely open up the state. Reporter nine states currently have less than a thousand cases. In other areas, new concern of a resurgence. Rhode island and providence are in a unique situation. First they had increasing cases from the new york city area and now they have new increase in cases from the boston area. Theyre caught between, two incredible hot spots in the country. Reporter massachusetts setting aside 130 million for longterm care facilities. While in new jersey, overwhelmed staff and a morgue well over capacity at this nursing home, where 17 bodies were found in a facility that has space for just four. And in Arlington National cemetery, members of the old guard, conducting military Funeral Honors with masks. A soldier lowers his at a safe distance to offer condolences. The cemetery noting at post, we adapt and keep to our mission president. Really, it looks great, how much things knead to change around the country. One of the notes with governors, seven midwestern states announcing they will collaborate with one another to reopen businesses and their areas include kentucky, illinois, indiana, minnesota, michigan, wisconsin and ohio. All right. Erica hill in new york, stay safe, my friend. Joining me now is cnn chief medical correspondent dr. Sanjay gupta. I want to start with a clip from dr. Oz on fox. He was talking about the tradeoffs that need to happen in order for the u. S. To try to go back to some semblance of normalcy. Take a listen to this little clip and well talk about it on the other side. Okay. Lets start with these are really critical to the nation, where we feel we might open without getting into trouble. Schools are an ap advertising opportunity. I saw the opening of schools may only cost us 2 or 3 in terms of total mortality. Any life is a life lost, but to get every child into a school where they are safely educated, being fed and making the most out of their lives with a theoretical risk on the back side might be a tradeoff some folks would consider. So dr. Oz was basically saying i dont think he is referring to, i looked at the lancet i dont think 2to3 of the country which would be millions of people. I think he is talking about this hundred lancet study about how closing schools only reduced deaths 2 po 4 . But thats still theoretically thousands of lives . Yeah. I mean, its a tradeoff that hes describing. Its a tough tradeoff. I think a lost people first heard that and probably interpreted him thinking two or 3 of the country or childrens lives, 56 million kids are if schools. I think that you know the better what toy sort of i think this is what he meant. I havent talked to him. The modems suggest some 60,000 people will lose their lives sadly to this disease. How much are we gaining by the various measures we are putting in place . The closing of schools they say may be contributed to 2to3 of that that as you point out would be 1,200 to 1,800 people potentially. Again fought people but children within the country. Every life is a life you know and you know what is the tradeoff in terms of starting to reopen things . Thats a big one. You know im sure, you know, that was the data that came out of lancet. Im sure dr. Oz thought about that before he said that that is obviously a big one. But these are the questions that will have to be decide. When we reopen, jake, i dont think we will get to the point where we say we are absolutely free and clear. We can guarantee no one will get infected, sick, no one might sadly die after we reopen. The virus is still out there, its still circulating. Until we have a vaccine, this will be these constant tradeoffs we are making. It does seem to a lot of experts that i have spoken with, that the United States for the most part citizens, governors, et cetera, President Trump, pushing for it as well in terms of the social distancing guidelines staying at home in some places, and that it has been to a degree successful. The curve is being flattened. But that doesnt mean, according to these health experts, that all of a sudden we say, okay, its worked. We have avoided the worst. And we rushed back to work, because we still dont have the Testing Capacity and if all of a sudden we just Willie Nillie as dr. Fauci says flip the switch and go back to normal the surge will start again . Sometimes its hard to prove a negative. Jake. We see these numbers of people who are likely to die. You know, the models what they suggest. Its tragic. But to your point, without these measures, things that we are going through in this country that weve never experienced before as a society, theyve had an impact. I mean the initial modems suggested look 40to60 of the country could become infected. 150 Million People plus and you know the fatality rate you know even if it was closer to 1 , which some suggested it might be, you know, you are starting to talk about millions of people. A millionandahalf people that would have died. Now we are talking 60,000. Still a Staggering Number of people. But these measures are largely what done it. We dont have a therapeutic, a vaccine so why did the numbers drop like this from in the millions to in the tense of thousands . Its because of these measure frs. Enough to as we think about reopening, we have to say, how much did this play a part in reducing that . How much in closing schools played a part in that . How much did closing these businesses play part in na . And all of those are going to have to be analyzed and theyre going to be evaluated probably as part of any discussion of reopening along with many other things. But thats, you are absolutely right. That is im sure the Decision Matrix that is happening right now. So, we just got hot off the presses of my ink jet printer here at home, the opening up america again document. So, im looking at this in real time, sanjay. Phase 1 says that all vulnerable individual should remain in place. All individuals in public should maintain physical distance. Avoid socializing in groups of more than 10 people. Minimize nonessential travel. And then, obviously, there is a phase 2 and a phase 3. What do you make of that for phase 1 in basically, that gets us to where we were before people started doing stayathome orders . Yeah. I read part of this as well. I think what they also have in there as part of phase 1 is that we have to show, i believe this is correct, 14 days of sustained decrease in overall numbers of people infected with the virus. They have to make sure hospitals are at the capacity of precrisis levels. They have to have adequate personal protective equipment and my understanding again in phase 1 schools stay closeed that are already closed as well. A lot of that fits with, you know, i think in some ways, with what dr. Fauci has been saying and others have been saying. There are triggers, i guess, is the point for this phase 1 to take place. Those triggers i think are almost more important paz what phase 1 looks like, in addition to that, they got to have testing. Testing they said interestingly should be administered by the states, should be safe and efficient. What does that mean . That means, for example, you, jake, if you were going into work, starting to go back to work, you could be tested. Maybe every day or on a regular basis and get a result back very, very quickly. Thats probably what that means. Right now there is a lot of people that should be tested. Have no idea going about getting testings testings test tested. That should change as we want. Well get a little more clarity on that. I guess the other question, i apologize, we are just getting this document. I dont see anything about were going to do this now because we are up to speed and we are able to do contact tracing. We are able to do widespread testing as they did in south korea, et cetera. I dont see that as a part of that, since we keep hearing from the experts like dr. Fauci and governors who are driven by 2450er own Health Economics by their own health commissioners, who say we need to do testing so we can say we need to know how to isolate individuals. I dont understand an opening up america plan that doesnt have a testing component. Do you . No, i dont. And i dont think any of the Public Health officials think so either. And i dont think theyve ever waived on that, despite how their comments you know have been taken or how they sort of presented things so as to not shock people. I think as we hear what the people say about the reopening phase, everyone is going to Pay Attention to what a postreopen america looks like, obviously, thats important. I think what im going to be paying attention to this evening as i listen are, what are the triggers to get there. I think thats what the Public Health official versus sort of added their imprint on this, yes, we want the country to be reopened as well. We agree, but here are the triggers, 14 days of sustained decreased spread, testing as youve just mentioned, jake, safe and efficient, administered by the states i think is what that document says, so that has to be really widely available. On a practical level. Not just the numbers. We can say we have 10 million tests, if there are entire states or communities that dont have those tests, it doesnt matter in terms of getting those places opened. It has to be widely available. No one is saying 325 Million People have to be tested. It has to be widely available to get an understanding of where the virus is and how it can be best contained. I should clarify what i meant. It mentioned test being in this document. It just says testing and contact tracing. Ability to set up efficient and safe screening site was. Ability to test people for covid19 and trace contacts, ensure sentinel sites are screaming for a symptomatic cases. Which it all makes sense. Most of the states are not up to capacity for this. They are not up to capacity. And you know i talked to several people in leadership positions and various states and you know they give me the reality to have what is possible. Its improving. But its not there. Thats how they characterize it. Its not from in some places. It is there in other places. It has to be frthere in all places. So this document, the big shiny object will be understandably what america looks like after we reopen. But its those triggers that are in there that are really important. The one thing i think will be a back and forst whose responsibility is it really to make sure the testing is widely available in an efficient and safe way. In that document, jake, well get more clarity again, it says thats really up to the states administering those screenings. Exactly. So well see. More state preparedness responsibilities. Yes. Some states dont have the ability to do that right now. I think thats what we are hearing. Some do, some dont. So how are they going to do it . All right. Dr. Sanjay gupta, thanks very much. Be sure to tune into sanjays coronavirus facts and fears, cnn global town hall. Their guests will include the Presumptive Democratic president ial nominee joe biden. Dr. Deb where birx and Facebooks Mark Zuckerberg and his wife on their initiative tonight 8 00 eastern on cnn, coming up a key test to tell you if you have immunity. But not every Antibody Test is equal. Why that could put people at risk. 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Since those tests are not for the general public, a new market of nonfdaapproved Antibody Tests is developing. Some 70 different types of Antibody Tests are being sold without approved Research Backing their validity. The former head of the cdc calling many of these nonapproved tests, quote, junk. Cnns drew griffin investigates. Reporter it is the one test that can tell you whether you are safe to leave the house. The Antibody Test. A finger prick test for feel without symptoms to determine if your blood carries the antibodies of covid19. Meaning you have been exposed to the virus at some point and now potentially immune. How immune . We just dont know. We still have a lot to learn about what having antibodies means. It doesnt mean are you immune. Can people be reinfected . How long will immunity last . Reporter after the least 70 Antibody Tests taking advantage of relaxed rules in the crisis. Without the fda certifying the tests there is no way to know which ones work. Using them to use list of fine prints positive results may be due to past or present infection with other viruses. One sign of the confusion, dr. Allison fox, bought 200 tests for her practice in new jersey only to be told by the new Jersey Health department do not offer any covid19 tests to your patients. Its incredibly frustrating. It doesnt make sense to me as all. Reporter the fda is now trying to straighten the mess that has been what one testing official called the wild wide west of antibody marked tests. The National Cancer institute and its serum testing lab has been drafted to determine which tests work, which do not. That is key says dr. Anya weinberg who heads up the Testing Group in mt. Sinai hospital. Though its incredibly important as we learn more and use these tests to develop our plans and policies, to reopen society, that we can rely on the results we are being given. Reporter the fda has given emergency use authorization to four Antibody Tests, but the very First Company to get it hasnt been able to get its tests into the United States. Sellex telling cnn chinese export rules prevented them from shipping them to the so far. They hope this will be resolved soon. Why so important . Two big reasons says harvard epidemiologist caroline bucky. So the first thing is to work out how many people have been infected, whether were close to the epidemic peak or whether we have a long way to go. Reporter the second involve what is is known as immunity. If having the virus and recovering means we wont get it again and enough of us have had the virus and carry that immunity. Then a large percentage of us of the herd wont be able to spread it. We dont need everybody in the population to be immune to the virus. We just need enough people to be immune that the virus cant start to spread again and take off exponentially. Thats why its so important for this next batch of testing widely available, easily reportable. Above all, accurate. And the National Cancer institute is really racing through this process trying to get the information to the fda as soon as possible. They tell me within a week they could be through all the tests that they have to do for this first batch. All right, drew griffin in atlanta, thank you so much. Joining me now to discuss is dr. Lisa dabby, an emergency medical physician at ucla. I want to start with breaking news, cnn obtained the booklet distributed to governors from the Trump Administration ahead of the president s announcement this evening on steps to begin to reopen society and the economy. It does not outline any sort of federal plan for testing, instead leaving it to the states to figure out. It does say that states need to have the ability to quickly set up safe and efficient screening testing sites for symptomatic individuals to test individuals for covid19 and trace contacted and ensure sentinel sites are screening for asymptomatic cases. Are states there . Are states ready for that . So, jake, can i answer about los angeles. We are very lucky at ucla for doing our own inhouse testing. So we have a turn around time of 3 hours from getting the specimens, getting the results. I will say we are definitely the exception and not the norm in l. A. County right now. My colleagues at other hospitals are very limited in the amount of testing they can do. One colleague can only returning even though they have the ab bought machine which has a 15 minute turn around. They can only do 100 tests in a week because they only have that many swabs. Another can run 15 a day in another hospital because they dont have swabs a and the medium to transport the swabs so theyre turning around hundreds of people every day with symptoms who they cant test because they dont have the materials that they need to perform the tests and even worse than that is the outpatient testing through the city of los angeles. The outpatient testing turn around time is anywhere from 7 to 9 days to get your results. So by the time you get the resultfs of your tests, are you better and done with the virus or much sicker and already in the hospital so we really need to work in los angeles and camp. On increasing the ability to test everybody on a more timely manner. Yeah. And california has been one of the states thats will be heralded for being ahead of the curve on this. Let me ask you about the piece drew just did about the fdaapproved Antibody Tests a and the ones that arent fdaapproved. Do you do the fdaapproved Antibody Tests and how might they be used to get us out of this crisis . So we are rolling out Antibody Testing at ucla. I would take a minute to qualification people to not use the unapproved tests. I think its dangerous use a test that is not accurate. If off get a result you have antibody and you dont really have antibody, then you can be putting yourself in harms way because you are falsely believing are you immunity. Having said that if we use a good accurate test, it can be really useful to know that people have antibody allows us to let down our guard a bit as we send them out into the community and to know how many people in our community will be affected will be really useful in terms of opening things back up. Doctor, you enrolled in exposure among healthcare workers. Tell us about that how does that work . So i just started the study yesterday. I will be screened twice a month. Both tested for covid and antibody. What the researchers are trying to understand is how many of our healthcare workers have been exposed. How many potential lip have the virus and dont have any symptoms. Im really excited to be in this study. A, to be able to contribute to Scientific Research and b for my own knowledge. It will be a game changer for me if i know i have antibodies. It will relax my guard being around my parents. I know if i have some immunity, i hopefully cant pass anything along to them. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you for the work that you and the healthcare workers around the country are doing. We really appreciate it. Thanks. Jake. While the Trump Administration is now focusing on a claim that the virus originated in a lab in china, were going to take a look into some of the deceptions that weve heard from chinese officials about the virus. Stay with us. 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Intelligence and National Security Officials Say theyre investigating the possibly the virus spread from a Chinese Laboratory and not as originally believed from a market in wuhan, which is what the Chinese Government originally claimed. U. S. Officials do not say they believe the virus was spread intention ally or purposefully in anyway, but they are looking into whether it originated from the lab and spread accidental lip. It is premature to draw any conclusions. But the Chinese Governments lack of transparency and sharing of erroneous information not to mention its coverup has certainly not inspired confidence among world leaders. Today the uk called for a deep dive review of the Chinese Governments early handling of the pandemic. Cnn reports from shanghai. Reporter at the start of the outbreak, this is where china directed the worlds attention, suggesting this wuhan Seafood Market was the source of the Novel Coronavirus outbreak. Cnn even traveled there just before the city shut down in january. Security told us to leave. The u. S. Intelligence officials tell cnn they are investigating another possible source. Suggesting the virus may not have originated naturally as china has advertised but rather that it possibly started in a wuhan lab. Sources say it is one of many origin theories the u. S. Is looking into. Chinese officials pushing ban on thursday. The Foreign Ministry dismissing it started in a lab. Instead stressing that, quote, this is a scientific issue that should be studied by scientists and medical experts. Yet, it is the same spokesperson who last month floated a controversial theory tweeting that it might be the u. S. Army who brought the epidemic to wuhan. China tried to say at one point that it was caused by american soldiers. That cant happen. Its not going to happen. Not as long as im president. It comes from china. Reporter the latest debate over the virus is actual origin coincides with a damming Associated Press report. It claims china sat on critical information for six full days from january 14th until january 20th, downplaying the outbreak in public before finally revealing the full scope of the threat. The a. P. Report is a memo from a confidential teleconference involving the head of the National Health commission. Cnn has combed through the government report from the teleconference released more than a month after it took place. It says sober understanding of the situation was made known to top deposit officials adding that quote clustered cases suggest that huhmantohuhman transmission is possible. But that was not the message shared publicly from Health Officials at the time. Navenlt, as hundreds of millions traveled, leading up to the lunar holiday, Mass Gatherings at airports and stations, the wuhan mission maintained it was controllable and preventible and this was not contagious. It was not until january 20th that leading Health Officials acknowledged cases of huhmantohuman cases and they stated medical personnel had gotten infected. One of the doctors early on tried to sound the alarm and contracted the illness. Wuhan ophthalmologist was reprimanded by wuhan police. They accused him of spreading rumors, after he maenld friends warning them of a sarslike illness going around. Instead of listening to his warnings. They slensd him and other whistle blowers. He died. And cnn had an underreporting of case, wuhan saying their loved ones were never tested despite suffering from coronaviruslike symptoms, instead their deaths listed as severe pneumonia, whether it was interpretational or due to a lack of testing. For some, they reported coronavirus tests does not add up. The fact that we dont know the answers. China hasnt shared the answers i think is very, very telling. Reporter china has repeatedly maintained they have been opened and forthcoming in the handling of this outbreak. Chinas Foreign Ministry said in an open and transparent parents, they have kept the w. H. O. Updated. If mishandling was known by top officials here, their delayed action might overshadow the massive containment effort that chosen so proudly promotes. David, great reporting. Stay with us. I want to bring if cnns kylie atwood from the state department. Lets play more of that clip from secretary of state pompeo last night open fox. The mere fact that we dont know the answers that china hasnt shared the answers, i think is very, very telling. We really need the Chinese Government to open up. They say they want to cooperate. One of the best ways they can find is to let the world in, the world scientists know, exactly how this came to be. Exact lip how this virus began to spread. Kylie, obviously, trump and his administration are reluctant to accept any blame for their handling of the pandemic. But two things can be true at once. The Chinese Government mishandling this, covering it up, lying about it and the Trump Administration being too slow to taking as to protect its citizens . Reporter yeah, that is a point worth making. Jake, it is true, the context in which we are learning that the u. S. Government is looking into the possibility that the coronavirus did potentially leak out of a chinese lab instead of from a wet market has to be considered in the same context of the fact that the Trump Administration and trumps allies have been trying to deflect the blame for how they have handled this outbreak of this pandemic in the United States. But the bottom line here is that we do not know what the precise origin of this Novel Coronavirus really is. And u. S. Government officials have told me that they do want to get to the bottom of that. Now, intelligence official, National Security officials are looking into this. The lab is one of the possibilities that they are looking into. But nothing is yet definitive or conclusive about what they have found. And, david, from the offset, the chinese deposit was silencing whistleblowers, withholding crucial information from the chinese population, from the international community. We cant even trust the number of cases and deaths reported by the Chinese Government. How are they responding to the u. S. Saying its going to investigate this . Reporter yeah, there is a lot of skepticism here, jake. Theyre dismissing this as nonsense. They go back to the lean this is a scientific issue and they need to leave it to their open experts, even some of their diplomat versus origins as we pointed out. China says the countries ultimately need to ban together to win this fight. It sounds great. I dont think its feasible. We are seeing deepened tensions coming out between the u. S. And china with an increased distress of foreigners here, in part because of what Health Officials labeled as imported cases, but there is this intensified blame towards the other. We see that rhetoric on social media, both here, in china and the u. S. , it makes it seem like you will not come to an agreement between the two countries on anything let alone an end of this epidemic. And speaking of othering people, we should note what the Chinese Government the guilty of not the same thing Chinese People are guilty of that population was victimized more than anyone. Compilely, the Washington Post josh rogan reported on state Department Cables in 2018 showing concerns about the safety and management of the Wuhan Institute of viewerologist biolab that viralologist biolab. What do you know about the lab . Reporter this is one of chosens most advanced lab, operated by the academy of sciences. In 2015, its worth noting it was the first choonese lab to asheef the highest level of bioresearch safety. But at the same time what the wag post revealed in these cables from state Department Officials is that there were concerns about research happening in that lab what ready to coronaviruss and bats. So there were alarms being raised about what was happening there. All right, david, kylie, thank you so much for your excellent reporting. I appreciate it. Coming up, it seems ivanka trump is familiar with the phrase do what i say not as i do. Why is this family different from all other families . Thats next. Affected by the crisis. We look forward to returning to something that feels a little closer to life as we knew it, but until then you can see how were here to help at libertymutual. Com covid19. [ piano playing ] 450degree oven, to box, to you, know that from our its our policy that your pizza is never touched once it comes out of the oven. 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On the lead today more hard numbers to showka is the ugly economic reality of today. 5. 2 million americans filed for unemployment, that makes 22 million out of a job in just the last month. About 13 of the American Work force, and keep in mind, those numbers do not include furloughs and pay cuts adding to widespread economic pain and folks not eligible for unemployment benefits. Cnn business anchor julia chatterley joins us to discuss this and more. What states and industries are taking the hardest hits . Reporter hey, jake, it began if restaurants, bars, its far more broad based now, the healthcare sector, construction, Administrative Services what we saw in the last week, were claims ramping up in states like georgia, arizona and texas. But we know its broad based across straights as well struggling at the moment. What we are looking is a potential Unemployment Rate of 15 . That dwarfs anything that we saw during the financial crisis. What we are also looking at potentially is giving up all the job gains that weve seen since then. Weve done it in what just the past four weeks. The worst thing is we know states are struggling to process all of these claims. Were not yet capturing the gig economy workers, freelancers, uber drivers, thats the potential 23 million more workers. The news will get worse, jake. We didnt ask you, in the stimulus package that we have been covering, there was a provision tucked into the bill that offers a huge tax break to the nations wealthiest individuals, especially to those that own real state. Tell us about that. Lets use new york as an example. When the city that never sleeps, sleeps, like it is now, every business, every tenant goes to the landlord and says i cant pay rent. We saw this happen. It happened weeks ago and it continues. What that did is shake the foundations of the Real Estate Market in similar ways to the financial crisis. What this tax change does is it allows these real estate players to not pay so much tax now and offset the cash that isnt coming in. In the end, is it a tax change for the 1 . Y yes. Does it potentially help donald trump like the Kushner Family . Sprult does it feel stinky . Yes, it does. But the argument could be maintained it prevented a bigger collapse that could have had housing and rent implications for many of us. Julia, you and i have been talking for weeks now about the Small Business loan program, today it officially tapped out. They dont have any money. Moments ago on the senate floor, Mitch Mcconnell blamed democrats for stalled negotiation. Any sign of a deeshlg given how badly Small Businesses need this money. Any hope there . I agree with him on that point. Senator roy blunt of missouri said look he believe there is a the impact could be overcome by the next session. Thats monday. He also suggested that the president is on a call with senators today he said perhaps money could be found for other things. We got a timing issue. The republicans believe more money was needed for the states because of healthcare. But they wanted to give it a bit of time. The democrats want it all to happen now. The hope is that this gap can be brijd. Jake, this is an emergency for Small Businesses and the jobs claims numbers tells you that. More jobs will be lost, more businesses would fail if they cant agree this money now. All right. Cnn business anchor, julia chatterley as always thank you very much. President trumps guidelines for travel apparently did not apply to his daughter and Senior Adviser ivanka trump and jared kushner. The two of their children and secret Service Despite to stay home drove to the trump property in med minister to celebrate passover last week. A white house official said the facility in bedminster is closed down and is considered a family home and that ivanka trumps travel is no different going to and from work outside the populated d. C. Area. We should note new jersey is one of the worst hit states in the nation with 71,000 cases of coronavirus and more than 3100 deaths. Who ill the United States figures out how and when things will stay opened, one extended their stayathome order. Stay with us. Your bank can be virtually any place. So, when you get a check. You can deposit it from here. And you can see your transactions and check your balance from here. You can save for an emergency from here. Or pay bills from here. So when someone asks you, wheres your bank . You can tell them heres my bank. Or heres my bank. Or, heres my bank. Because if you download and use the chase mobile app, your bank is virtually any place. Visit chase. Com mobile. Im gonna turn pop, techno, funk and counrock and roll zombies. 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We got a first indication a fivepoint plan laid out. Number one the Health Service can cope, meaning theyve got enough Critical Care beds. Secondly, that there is a sustained decrease in the number of deaths. Thirdly, that there is reliable data. It is critical as well that they have reliable data, the number of infections are decreasing. What theyre telling us is niece will be numbers led. The fourth point a lot of criticism, the fourth point is that there is enough personal protective equipment ppe and critically tests, enough in the country. This country has been wolfely short to detect the presence of the virus. Thats the fourth thing. The 5th item the greatest concern for the government, it doesnt do something have a strategy that allows a second wave, a spike that could overwhelm the Health Service, jake. All right. Nic robertson in london. Thank you. President trump will release his guidelines in opening the country to a degree soon. Our coverage on cnn continues. Stay healthy, stay at home. This is cnn breaking news. Welcome to our viewers here in the United States and around the world. Im wolf blitzer in the situation room. We are following breaking news, cnn obtained details for President Trumps guidelines for reopening the economy. Which hell be detailing in a Coronavirus Press conference and a complete reversal. He is now telling u. S. Governors, they, they will call the shots on reopening their states, not him. This plan calls for a

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