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CNNW The Lead With Jake Tapper December 11, 2020

Going on, the president was publicly lashing out on steven hahn on twitter for not getting this done faster and having his own staff and chief of staff lash out to him privately because we are told that mark meadows did call dr. Hahn this morning and basically, complaining if they did not get this coronavirus authorized, this emergency authorization granted by the ends of the d ofe may not have a job. The job security of the fda commissioner now in question after the white house steve of staff told him to be prepared to resign if his agency doesnt grant emergency use authorization of pfizers vaccine by the ends of the day. Sources say mark meadows called dr. Steven hahn this morning after President Trump spent the week venting that the uk had already rolled out vaccines. Top Government Health officials have said emergency authorization is in the works. The fda informed pfizer that they do, intend, to proceed towards an authorization for their vaccines. Reporter but things arent moving quickly enough for President Trump. Today, he called the fda a moneydrenched big slow turtle on twitter, adding get the damn vaccines out now, dr. Hahn. Stop playing games and start saving lives. Tension has been building between the white house and fda for weeks. Leading to multiple meetings between meadows and hahn where the fda commissioner has denied he was pressured. The same, i think, as being sort of pressured by you, although youre not really pressuring me by asking questions about why it takes us so long. I think its a natural question. I dont mind being asked that so, no, i dont think its any different than this. Reporter after meadows warned he could be fired, hahn issued a statement saying it was an untru representation of their call and that the fda was encouraged to continue working expeditiously. Stewing behind closed doors today, President Trump had multiple targets in his sight in addition to the fda including Benazir Bhutto and barack obama . He acknowledged he wont be in office much longer complaining the Biden Administration will be a scandaledplagued mess for years to come. Trump spokesperson said it wasnt a concession but his latest effort to overturn the election. I think that was sort of a couched in terms of, you know, if, in fact, but i dont think he was conceding anything in particular. He is still litigating his case in the courts. Reporter now back to what is going on with dr. Hahn. When you talk to fda officials, they basically describe many extremely difficult situation they have been put in where they are trying to walk a fine line between getting this vaccine approved quickly but not undercutting Public Confidence in the vaccines given the reports that stephanie laid out there. Dr. Hahn said they will not approve a vaccine that regulators have said is not safe or effective but people in the white house saying why settle the head of the fda with six weeks to go left in office . That remains to be seen if that question will be answered and whether or not dr. Hahn will ultimately be offered. You heard dr. Offit who is on the Fda Committee who expected dr. Hahn to okay this vaccine today or tomorrow any way so there is no what he called saber rattling or other words i can call it. We are behind the curve and one top fda Health Official told cnn on the lack of messaging. Sara has this reporting. This is after we saw the first members of the publics g get th vaccine in the uk. Reporter earlier this week there wasnt a plan to do something similar in the u. S. And that lines up really with some of the frustration we have been hearing from Public Health organizations and state Officials Say for months hear an effort to educate the American Government and seen contracts ink designed to be Public Awareness campaigns and some have not seen the fruition of that. We are on the cusp of shots going into arms they are particularly concerned. States are especially concerned because they havent had additional money coming into them from congress. They say we have to not only educate our residents how safe and effective this vaccine is but explain to people where and when they can get the vaccine and they dont feel they have had the support they need from the federal government. From the federal side officials at operation warp speed and hhs say this campaign is starting up perhaps quietly than we thought. They point to events at the white house and bigger robust paid Media Campaign will be under way beginning next week. A lot of folks are concerned that could already than too late. We have seen the private sector stepping up to try to fill the information void. Pharmacies putting out signs saying we dont have this vaccine yet, check back later. We have seen the ad council saying they are going to have a Big Ad Campaign so a lot unknown and what we have seen from the president is not helping the Public Confidence around the vaccine. I would imagine that. Sara murray, thank you. Joining me is the head of operation warp speed dr. Moncef slaoui. Thank you for joining me. I dont want to put you in a position you have to respond to a phone call between mark medicines do medicine dose and dr. Hahn from the fda. I dont want to put you in an awkward position. But i want to ask this question. Are you concerned that this story that the white house is pressuring the fda could undermine confidence in a vaccine that you feel very positive about . Yes, i think there is an important opportunity there for people to see undue pressure if the story is right. I just heard before this that dr. Hahn said it wasnt a true reproduction of what happened. I can say because i watched all of the events yesterday is that it was an outstanding set of discussion, presentations by the fda, presentation by pfizer, the discussion that the Advisory Committee had. They really honed on very important questions around the age or so around potentially the people that have very severe allergies and the country for the whole day see that this was an effective transparent thorough indepth review. Now the fda is clearly in the very last steps of approving. They may approve today or tomorrow. I dont see the reason for any pressure if that has happened. As i said, i wouldnt be able to know whether it has happened or not. Right. I guess here is the question because its so important that so many people, at least 70 of the American Public get this vaccine. What do you want the American People to know about this vaccine if they are skeptical . Maybe they dont trust President Trump . Maybe they dont trust dr. Fauci. Maybe black americans and they are aware of the hideous history of the tuskegee experiment and doctors using blacks as agaigui pigs. What would you want us tonow . Frankly, two words. Keep an open mind and trans transparen transparency. Please keep an open mind and from the fda is 100 transparency of the data and everything people look into. Experts, on the other hand, Specialty Independent from the fda and operation warp speed should look into the data and say what they think. I feel very confident as they do that that they will explain this vaccine has exceptional efficacy and excellent safety profile that is comparable to many approved vaccines, and, therefore, that it should be used in the populations have been identified and i think the experts yesterday voted very favorably for the vaccine and i assume that those voted against it that some of those that did, did so because of the age brackets, 16 to 18 years of age as a discussion supported. So that is what i would say. Please allow yourself to be exposed to the data and information before making up your mind. If you do that, its very likely you would be convinced. Let me caution people out there. Because somebody is on twitter and claims they are an expert does not mean they actually know what they are talking about. Do some research as to who that person is, where they got their medical training, or their training in immunology. Make sure people claiming to be experts are experts before you listen to them. I want to get your react thank you for that, jake well, its important in this day where, you know, there is a great place of megaphones. I want to ask where the u. S. Stands right now when it comes to messaging to convince americans to take the Covid Vaccine . We ran a report yesterday from tennessee where ellie reeve talked to a pastor who is very negative about this based purely on ignorance because he nodoesn know what he is talking about. What is your fact that the messaging campaign does appear to be behind schedule . Listen. We have made sure that we, for the last, frankly, what, two months, we are present in the media to discuss what we have done. The messaging, the specific message is around data to the vaccine can only be done once that information is public. We cant talk about it when its not public and when the agency has not said the performance of the vaccine, you know, is this and that and its benefits outweigh its risks, et cetera. Now that that is the case, we have to go out there and engage with all of the leadership at all levels in our communities to help explain the features with of the vaccine, its performance, and hopefully engage with people and convince them but we frankly couldnt do it effectively before because we couldnt be very specific. Of course. You cant say the vaccine is safe if the vaccine has not been approved yet and that makes sense. Exactly. The world did get to watch this week in the uk when the first brits got their coronavirus vaccines. I imagine that was very reassuring to people to see people getting the vaccine, doing well, saying it didnt even hurt. Is there anything like that planned in the u. S. . Will President Trump, for example, get the vaccine on camera to assure his supporters that the vaccine is safe . Frankly, i dont know whether President Trump will take the vaccine. I know that President Trump was infected not long ago with coronavirus and that is a situation i think where his physician would need to really advise on because its kind of different to be a known person that has been infected and has received these could be all things that potentially can impact the immunization process. However, i can tell you that there are plans to have people being immunized. I would like to be immunized at the right moment when my turn in terms of priorization in public. I would like my family to be vaccinated. In order to demonstrate to the people that we are walking the talk, we believe this vaccine is safe and the vaccines that will follow, if they are approved, they will be approved on the basis of being effective and safe and, therefore, we take them. So the fda advisory group, they looked at it, but they didnt make judgments, i believe, correct me if im wrong, about this. They didnt make judgments about whether or not the vaccine is safe for kids 16 or under, pregnant women, people with allergies to vaccines and two medications. When with we finding out about them . I supposed pregnant women and children are of most concern to the viewers right now. So, clearly, there were no data in pregnant women of any relevance to recommend the vaccine for pregnant women and there were no data in children of any significance blol telow age of 16 and particularly below the age of 12. Actually, moderna announced they started study to go for that indication. However, what the Advisory Committee was asked to vote on is whether the vaccine was safe and effective in people age 16 and above. The vote was positive. Therefore, it is conclusive of people between 16 and 18. I believe its the fdas decision, and i dont know what their decision will be, to decide on that bracket of 16 to 18. Clearly, the companies we are supporting them, to study these vaccines in people that are 18 to 12, 12 to 5 or 6, 5 or 6 to 2 and 2 and below and that goes stage wise and, you know, we need to have more than a thousand to 2,000 individuals per group to be able to document the response and the safety of the vaccine in those populations. Pharmaceuticals companies are going to do testing with those kids in groups . Is that going to happen . Absolutely. It started today. It started today. Okay. An official tells cnn that most governors have informed you at operation warp speed that they expect to use up all of the vaccines they are getting 2. 9 million doses within days of receiving the first shipment. So what happens then . When will states be able to get more vaccines . So the plan is to ship vaccines once a week and to inform the governors a week in advance about the number of doses they will be receiving. Those vaccines, those that they receive are meant to be used in full in the population during that period of a week, because the same states will receive an identical number of doses in the case of Pfizer Vaccine three weeks later to give to the recipients of the first dose earlier. The number of vaccines shipped will increase week on week because of the rampup in manufacturing at pfizer and also hopefully when the Moderna Vaccine gets approved, if it gets approved next week, that would be quite a significant boost of vaccine to be distributed. So maybe in the first week, 34069 vaccine those will be, you know, injected within three or four days. Thereafter, i think it will take a week. Id like to note in the uk, i learned this morning, i have interactions with my uk counterpart every other week indepth, 2,000 people have been vaccinated in the first two days. I think that is an appropriate pace if i exemplify one significant states would be equivalent to the uk, just to see how things are ramping up, are going. Today, for instance, also training of 3,300 people have attended, a Life Training on video to educate people on how to use the vaccine and how to prepare it for immunization, et cetera. Then they will practice and start slow and then ramp up. Dr. Moncef slaoui, thank you so much for what you do and for your time today. I appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Go birds. Any moment the Supreme Court could weigh no a lawsuit they are calling a coup attempt. Many americans are on the brink. No jobs, no food. Many close to being evicted. How close is congress to finally reaching a deal to help the desperate American People . That is ahead. 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Any minute we could happier the Supreme Courts decision on this deranged lawsuit from the Texas Attorney general challenging the Election Results of four states that president elect joe biden won. Today, believe it or not, 20 additional House Republicans announced their support for that crazy lawsuit bringing the number to 126 much to the republican partys embarrassment and shame, lets discuss. Abby, legal experts on both sides of the aisle, credible ones, have resoundingly said that they think the Supreme Court, even though they have three trump appointed justices will resoundingly reject this challenge being as its nuts. So why are all of these House Republicans signing onto it . Its the same reason that they will not say a cross word about this president. They have to show their loyalty and their allegiance. Each and every one of those districts, for the most part, you have republicans that are reliant on a base that effectively worships President Trump. They cant cross him on this and the whole point of a couple of days ago, there was a letter sent out to members urging them to sign on to this. It was partly because there is a desire for the president to see who is behind him. He is asking to see the names, the list of names so that he can hold accountable the people who are with him or against him. This is nothing more than the president showing off his political must, proving to republicans that he is going to be a Political Force to reckon with right now, as well

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