One of the antitrump resistance. Either way, the truth has never been messier than it has been these past days. Tonight we are going to try to attempt to answer a very serious and very sober question. What in the holy heck is going on in america right now . It is nuts. It feels like the politics of a developing country and not the most adadvanced nation on earth. Tonight we are going to try to figure it out. First of all, you have to try to understand your new president. Not just agree with him or disagree with him, but really try to understand him. Heres my take. In trump world we are seeing a big clash now between mythology and math. Okay . Trump just sounds crazy. He sounds like don off the rails. My inauguration crowd was massive. The biggest ever. The inauguration was viewed by more people than ever. If you take away the millions of invisible immigrants, i won the popular vote. Without getting into all of that, the math obliterates all of these whoppers. So why does he keep saying stuff like this . The trump mythology requires him to say it. Im not just talking to his brand. His much, much deeper than that. If you want to understand your president , consider there may be a method to all of this madness. Remember trump does not see himself as a normal politician and he never had the strategy of a normal politician. A normal politician who wants to prove himself will point to the constitution and be done with it. Notice something, trump never even mentions the constitution. He talks about polls and ratings and crowd sizes. Polls, ratings, and crowd sizes. Trump sees himself as the leader of a mass movement. Movements are measured by how many people you are moving. Okay . Trump sees himself as a pop lift which means he needs to be popular. How popular are you when you cant win the popular vote . When you knock his vote totals, you are stroke striking at the very source of this mans legitimacy. Trump needs to believe he has the masses with him. So given his mythology and his strategy which is to position himself as a leader, its rational in his mind for him to talk about the numberplace even if he has to make up some of them. Its not psychopathy. Its strategy. Keep that in mind with the president. She is teeny and tiny and a couple hundred people. 24 months later, that little Nothing Movement had grown and grown and it took over the house representatives and they still have the house. By comparison, the Womens Marchs were massive. This could be the start of something big. Do not under estimate the antitrump resistance and before i move on, i have to say this. Before i praise them too much, it is fair to ask where was all of this progressive passion and enthusiasm when it might have mattered like during the election. Thats the part that drives me nuts. Most of these marchers also voted. How many of them volunteer and got involved and did the phone banking. Raise money. You can be mad at trump all you want, but most democrats know they under estimated trump and they didnt do everything they could have done to beat him. Let that be a lesson to everybody on both sides. Democracy requires hard work every day before, during, and after an election which forgets that. In this environment, they will regret it. Thats it. I want to introduce you guys to somebody who cares about all these issues. Voting rights and democracy and someone who fights for vows every day. She is an oscar winner and emmy winner and a grammy winner and tony award winner and all kinds of winner. You want to win . She is the winner. Whoop i goldberg. I wanted to point something out to you. You asked where were all these people in the march. You want to tell you it wasnt just liberal women marching. Trfs female trump voters. Because a lot of the women that i talked to said i voted for him for this reason and i wasnt going to sleep everything out including me. Im here because i feel like i need to let him know this is not okay. You say this. I saw a tweet from a congress guy who said that he said it was a bunch of liberal women marching. You are the kind of person we are marching against. Birth control is not just birth control. There it does a lot of things for womens bodies. Thats what i want to tell you. I love it. I want to get to the march and they have different opinions. I do want to get to your opinion about this most recent thing about this voting stuff. You have a guy who is the president of the United States and used to be the president in the 60s was sending investigations into the red states because you had real identifiable people whokd not vote. Now you have somebody sending investigations into the blue states where invisible made up people did vote. How does it land with you that Voting Rights has to be turned upside down into a joke. When im trying to think of this young ladys name who was with the party that lost. The green party . The green party. Jill stein wanted to do a recount. His people said listen, there was no voter fraud. We went in and look at this and there is nothing here. Im thinking okay, you won. Now here you come and suddenly now there is millions. Its like millions of voter fraud people. Where were they the last time people looked for them. I have to bring somebody in here who wants to argue with you. I dont want to argue and i have been talking all day. I will talk to you, but i wont argue with you. You are talking about when jill stein said there was something wrong with the election. Donald trump said there was nothing wrong and now he said there is everything wrong. We have a student here named amanda who did not go to the march and she is a woman. I want to start by saying the march was a powerful opportunity and so inspiring for the climate of our country to see millions of women and humans to turn out to march on a multitude of issues they are passionate about, but it became problematic when they were quick to exclude and not to sponsor a group that did not share the same ideology as them. This was supposed to be an inclusive event. When the main body of protesters disagreed, they were excluded. Was that i a mistake . It was a mistake. It was like a litmus test for the kind of woman that could come. No, part of the problem and i only found this out yesterday. We asked her about this because she was close with the people who organized. The people who organized this never specifically said this is for you and this is for you. Once you get too many people involved. You cant come and you cant come. From what i understand, it wasnt the case in new york. Everybody marched in new york. What i was told is that that was not true of the organizers. Yes, it was a mistake. This was about women marching. What else do you think as a trump voter . I thought the rhetorics were hateful. When you have an icon talking about bombing the white house and thinking about bombing the white house, what consequence does that create . What if someone else said that . Someone did say it. About obama. Ted nugent. Its bad on both sides. Thats not powerful to create what should have been a positive movement. It should have stayed positive. I agree. It goes off to a negative avenue. We are trying to understand each other a little bit better. We spent a lot of time saying that trumps vile language and Profane Language that children are watching. That was one of the best ads. Can you see why people might feel like that . Im not arguing against what she is saying. Im saying this was wrong. Im not saying hey, when you do that as ted nugent found and as madonna will find, the fbi will knock on your door and say excuse me, we want to talk to you that doesnt work. Common ground there. If you cant we had president s that i disagreed with strongly. We have been able to have these discussions. Something about how this began put everybody on edge. Whether you believe there should be a wall or whether you are mad at immigrants and whatever it is. There was a civility that disappeared. I feel like to be able to say to you yeah, you are right about that. It doesnt require me to go hey, what are you talking about. It means i will say yeah, youre right. I can see that. If i can have the dialogue, we might be able to come to an agreement. It becomes an issue when people will not when they are not listening. They are ready. I want to hear what she has to say. I talked to a lot of women in particular who voted for trump who a lot of folks said lets see what he does. Okay. But i think folks saw. Wait a minute. Just a second here. Very, very good. We have a reverend who was at the march and feels differently about it. Sir, im the pastor of the Riverside Church where Martin Luther king preached. As a christian minster, i felt it was important for me to show up in washington at the march to be with our nation in this moment when the soul of our nation seems to be in crisis. With so many who feel marginalize and oppressed. As a woman and a mother of young adults, it was critically important to be there with my kids to get them to experience the democratic process where we show up with differing opinions and to raise our voices because we care about the future of america. One of the things i was curious about. It was a womens march and a big womens march. How do we deal with the fact that 42 of the women who voted voted for donald trump and 53 of the white women who voted voted for donald trump against Hillary Clinton. What kind of a Womens Movement is it with those numbers . I dont think women were voting for women. They were voting for candidates. That should be clear to people. Its what people said. You are black and you voted for barack obama. Dont make that assumption. These women voted their beliefs. If hillary had shared those beliefs, maybe they would have voted for hillary. You have to start up here with the bar. Women vote the same way guys vote. They vote what their issue is. I think that it worked the way you are supposed to work. What i wish is it was not so muddy. I wish russia had nufr come up. Its too much. Too many things. We have a few more to get into. When we get back, there is one issue. I feel weird saying it, but there is an issue donald trump raised. I think democrats may want to take note when we get back. Audi pilotless vehicles have conquered highways, mountains, and racetracks. And now much of that same advanced technology is found in the audi a4. 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The crime and the gangs and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential. This american carnage stops right here and stops right now. Now, if you thought those were words or rhetoric, we might be seeing action soon. The new president tweeted this last night. Put it up. If chicago doesnt fix this horrible carnage, that word again, carnage. 228 shootings in 2017 with 42 killings of 24 from 2016, i will send in the feds now look, heres the messy truth. There is a lot of violence. Yeah. All over the country. There are a lot of funerals and i dont think that when you look at the Obama Presidency that there was that urgency about the inner city violence. Is this a good thing and are you happy that trump is saying he is going to do something . If you really wanted to do something, we would have a lot more discussions about how we deal with this crime with the gun issue. See . If you start the investigation with hey, i see you. I see you having issues there. We want to help. What can we do . He talked to rahm. He is starting the conversations. He is starting the conversation by saying im going to put martial law in your state. Thats not the way you start a conversation with people. Listen, there is bad crime everywhere. At some point we are going to have to discuss gun violence and what to do. Go ahead. I want us to open our mind a little bit. This guy is the president of the United States. He wants to put the issue on the table. Couldnt trump wind up being the savior . I dont know that black folks need a savior. Im sorry. I wasnt aware. Also, obama, lets talk about obama. Here the guy gets gets in. Day two, whats his name . Mitch mcconnell said we are not doing anything. Nothing. Here he is. Then come the posters from the kids that work at the white house and people working in different do you remember this . The different offices. One big poster with the president s. The last one with obama with big red lips and eyes looking like this. It continued. They continue to do the same thing. Im saying lets be realistic. If you wanted obama to do something, he did what he could do as the president of everybody. If he had done just stuff for black people, people would have been out of their minds. Okay. The guy is not the issue now. I dont mind donald trump wanting to go in and help. I do mind when you start this conversation by saying we are bringing in the feds, thats an issue. That could be a negative. You said yourself if the brother had done it, they would say you cant do that. Thats terrible. Trump is trying to do something. Should we work with him . I dont know if Rahm Emmanuel or whoever the governor is, i dont know if they are feeling like he wants to come in or whether he is grandstanding. There is a trust issue. I dont know. Anything that will help, im in for it. My frustration is and you know this, you go to our communities and all too often, you have the vigils and the teddy bears and the candles. You have yet another young brother or sister who has been killed. We then go say gun control and they say pull your pants up as if they did that. Nothing gets done. Well, if we started in the right place and say listen, i understand you have issues in the community. There are huge issues. There are no jobs. Lets talk about the white communities. Pills and drugs are the issues. We all got issues. If somebody said listen, come to a summit and tell me. I would love that. Everybody could have the conversation. If trump had that and invited whoop i goldberg, would you go . It would take a while for me. I will tell you why. Because i felt that when he came on to our show years ago spouting the lie that turned out to be he was born in another country and we dont know who hes connected to. That went on for eight years. Terrible. Yeah. Never has he said im sorry. I shouldnt have done that. Maybe if he begged. If he begged. We might be able it get you. I want to get an important voice in this conversation. This is real life stuff. People are going through things in the community and we have a hero whose husband lost his life. A Law Enforcement officer. I want her to be able to ask you a question. How are you . Good. My husband was a Law Enforcement officer who was shot and killed in the line of duty. As we have seen over the past few years, policing is tough in america. Yeah. Along with community relations. Its challenging on both sides. Lives are lost on both sides. How can we put the politics aside and focus on positive solutio solutions. With the understanding that both sides are at stake. Uhhuh. There was a police captain, i think he is out of texas, who talked about the fact that his son had been taken by violence. That i think another Family Member had taken him and how moved he was by what happened because he understood it. For me, i think people need to get into the community and talk to the folks and say listen, none of us want this. Nobody wants to shoot anybody. When something happens, we have to come to you and you have to help us. If no one says listen, there are nervous officers out there and bad things happen. We have to admit that they have happened. We cant sweep it under the rug and say it never happened. Both sides have to say listen, i dont have my husband and you dont have your son. We have a connection here. Lets try to make it something that will work. I think if honesty in both suppor supports the empathy, i guess. It would be much easier for people to say you are not shooting because you dont like it. You were scared. If you are in the dark and somebody comes to a door, i dont know how i was. You dont want to give me a handouhand gun. You dont want that. Lets give her a round of applause. Nobody wants to go through that. Thank you so much. This is the kind of conversation i think America Needs to have. We can be real and honest and get messy. Another thing that the president talked about in that carnage comment was this piece around drugs. I want to bring my friend, joel, into the conversation. Heres your microphone. Joel lost a loved one to opioids. My son nicholas dialled from kill bag. Fent fol is a drug that is stronger than heroin. The dealers are making these and selling them in hopes it boosts their sales and people come running. Thats the mind set of an addict. If someone dies, they have the good stuff. Lets go there and get it. Okay. So one of the reasons why i voted for donald trump is because hes made a promise that he is going to str