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CNNW The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer January 16, 2021

Taking away blue mailboxes around the country. Postal Officials Say its necessary because of security. And protests being planned across the country in the days leading up to joe bidens inauguration. The threat not from foreign enemies, but from americans. Domestic extremities, furious that donald trump lost the president ial election, and refusing to accept it as legitimate. Cnns Shimon Prokupecz is in washington near the capitol for us. Cnns Jeremy Diamond is at the white house. Shimon, were getting more details on the arrest that have virginia man not far from the u. S. Capitol. Youre there on the scene, give us the late breaking developments. Reporter yeah, wolf, so the man did have a Court Appearance and also the Capitol Police are issuing a statement on the incident, saying that when this happened yesterday at 6 30 last night, on friday, that he came upon a checkpoint, a secure checkpoint. Because of the inauguration, all the increased security, he presented a nongovernment i. D. And that police saw a handgun in his car. And that is when they took him into custody. They also say that he admitted to possessing the weapon and as you say, wolf, they did find the 500 rounds of ammunition, some of them belong ting to the gun, some of them belonging to a rifle. They took him into custody. They identify him as wesley alan beeler, 31 years old, from virginia, arrested for carrying a pistol without a license. Here in washington, d. C. You have to be a registered gun owner. He is from virginia, so there the laws are a little different. So perhaps that explains why he possessed this gun. Obviously, wolf, a lot of questions surrounding what he was doing, where he was going, and some of our cnn reporters have been working on that. So well be assure to have more information on that. But obviously, given the security concerns all around the u. S. Capitol, all around washington, d. C. , this raised a lot of eyebrows and a lot of suspicion. And so police did take the man into custody and he was charged. It says in the charging document, suspect was found to be in the possession of an unregistered firearm, unregistered ammunition, the suspect was subsequently placed under arrest. 500 rounds of. 9 millimeter ammunition, 12gauge shotgun shells as well. On the vehicle, there was a Bumper Sticker that says if they come for your guns, give them your bullets first. Thats a little disturbing as well. Do we know anything at all about his political motivation, if there was any political motivation . Because he was charged and arrested. Reporter wolf, at this point theres no indication that this has anything to do with politics or theres any sort of threat associated with this. Theres absolutely no information to indicate that. Yes, there were these stickers, that certainly raised some concerns with Law Enforcement on scene. In fact it is perhaps why they asked him, because when they looked at his car and they went around and looked at his vehicle, they asked him if he had any weapons in the car, any ammunition. He did tell them that he did have that weapon. So yes, those stickers perhaps raise some concerns. And so they did ask those questions. But other than that, there doesnt, at least at this point, appear to be any threat associated with this individual. Thats encouraging to hear that. Thanks very much. Stand by. Jeremy, youre over at the white house for us. Tell us what if anything youre hearing from the white house, from the president , as security is really tightening to the maximum level here in washington. Reporter thats right, wolf, we have a very similar security perimeter here around the white house as there is around the capitol where shimon was just speaking to you from. As for the president , though, he has been silent today. He has already been silenced last week on social media, of course, so were not hearing from him on twitter as we have for the four years of his presidency. In the last 24 hours, we do know President Trump appears to have met with two of the individuals who have either enabled or helped President Trump spread many of his lies and conspiracy theories about the 2020 election. Yesterday we know that the president was meeting with mike lindell, ceo of my pillow, who handed him a document talking about more false allegations of voter fraud and even talk of martial law, according to a photograph of a document that lindell handed the president. And in just the last hour or so, wolf, rudy giuliani, the president s personal attorney who has been spear heading the efforts to try to overturn the 2020 election, he was spotted arriving here at the white house presumably for a meeting with the president. But as for the president , wolf, he has really been consumed with this second historic impeachment that he faces on the final days of his presidency. Thats a big contrast to what were seeing with Vice President mike pence who just today was visiting a military installation in california, touting the achievements and accomplishments as he sees them of the trump Administrations National security policy, these last four years. Mike pence has also been doing other president ial duties, visiting with the National Guards men who are guarding the capitol this week and also having a security briefing on the inauguration as well as giving a phone call to Vice President elect Kamala Harris. That of course is a courtesy that President Trump has not extended to president elect joe biden. And we also know that while Vice President pence will attend the inauguration, President Trump plans not to do so, instead he will be leaving washington that morning of the inauguration and were told hes been asking aides for a big militarystyle sendoff as he leaves as president of the United States. Guys, thank you so much. Were joined now by former Homeland Security secretary under president obama, janet napolitano. Madam secretary, thanks so much for joining us. This arrest in d. C. , what does it tell about you the overall security situation here in the Nations Capital . What it tells me is from a security standpoint, everyone is leaning forward. And theres no room for error here, no mistakes. This will be a very secure inaugural. Lets hope, lets hope indeed. Washington, d. C. Right now, if you walk around, as i have, so many parts of that area from capitol hill, constitution avenue, all of the main streets, pennsylvania, independence, all the way to the washington mall, lincoln memorial, the white house, its almost become like a fortress, all those streets are closed. 25,000 National Guard troops. Security fencing. Checkpoints. How long do you think this added security, madam secretary, will be necessary . One hopes its not necessary for all that long. One of the things about our Nations Capital is its relative openness. Were an open and free society. I cant help but compare what the capital looks like today to what it looked like in 2009 when barack obama was getting ready to be inaugurated. Such a different feel, more than a Million People came to washington to celebrate obamas inauguration. Now the town has just shut down, and hoping to get through the inauguration of joe biden. Thats what were all hoping. Several of the people charged for alleged roles in that capitol hill insurrection a week ago, its sad to report this, were military, veterans, police, even some elected officials. Madam secretary, what do you make of that . I think its troublesome. I think that both Police Departments and the military need to do some introspection in terms of how they are enforcing the rule of law amongst the troops and amongst their officers. And if many or some were involved in the insurrection last week, they ought to be arrested and prosecuted. U. S. Intelligence bulletin obtained by cnn, madam secretary, says the capitol riot has motivated far right extremists, while supremacists, among others. Some lawmakers are calling for stronger domestic terrorism laws. Do you think thats an answer . Well, i think its time that we had a domestic terrorism statute. You know, its interesting, under the patriot act, the fbi has the authority to investigate domestic terrorism but theres no actual federal law for prosecution for domestic terrorism. And i think, given the events, the recent days, and what weve seen developing in our country, we need to take a serious look at that. How pressing would it be, madam secretary, how pressing is the situation, the threat of these white supremacists, these far right extremists, how much of a threat is it for the Incoming Biden Administration . Especially because the president has for so long insisted that biden is an illegitimate president for all practical purposes, it was a stolen election, there was widespread fraud, and so many of these people, these extremists, have come to believe that. Well, you know, its hard to understand why facts simply dont matter to this particular part of the population. G but the facts are the facts. Joe biden won by a substantial majority and won the Electoral College. I do think this puts extra pressure on the administration to get the members of its cabinet who deal with security in and confirmed, and the members of the subcabinet, the leaders of the agencies that are within these big departments in and confirmed, because i do think were going to be on an elevated Security Status for some period of time. Im sure we will be. Janet napolitano, thank you so much for joining us, good luck you to. Stay safe. Thank you. More breaking news out of capitol hill, a republican con con congresswomans staff member has resigned because of her discomfort with his handling of the capitol riot. Boebert voted against the Electoral College votes for joe biden and objected to the installation of metal detectors on the house floor because she wants to carry a gun on capitol grounds. As the capitol locks down to prevent another insurrection, the house is ramping up to send President Trumps impeachment articles to the senate next week. Next ill speak to maryland senator Chris Van Hollen, there you see him, hes joining us live. Well discuss when we come back. We look at what youve saved, what youll need, and help you build a flexible plan for cash flow that lasts, even when youre not working, so you can go from saving. To living. Lets go age is just a number. And mines unlisted. Try boost® high protein. With 20 grams of protein for Muscle Health versus only 16 grams in ensure® high protein. And now enjoy boost® high protein in cafe mocha flavor. In the wake of last weeks deadly insurrection in washington, d. C. , the Nations Capital is in heightened security. As an added precaution, were now learning the u. S. Postal service is temporarily removing mailboxes across the United States. Senator Chris Van Hollen joins us. How concerned are you about the threats to the inauguration, in washington as well as other state capitols . Wolf, its good to be with you. Im very concerned about the threats. And thats why its essential that we take these huge security precautions. We now have i think 25,000 National Guard men and women in washington, d. C. Thats ten times the amount of troops that we currently have in afghanistan. And theres just the national gu guard. On top of that you have Different Police forces. So i think the security is definitely necessary and warranted. It is a sad reflection on where we are in our democracy today. Will you feel safe going back to the capitol, doing your work in the senate . I know so many other members of the house and senate are beefing up their personal security right now. Yes, i do, wolf, but i feel safe partly because of the additional security measures that are being taken. Clearly we had a complete failure of security at the capitol on january 6. And so weve got to learn very quickly from what went wrong. Of course what went wrong in the big picture was we had a president of the United States inciting people to attack the capitol, to overturn the results of the election. And we had essentially political accomplices in the house and the senate who were fueling that lie. And were going to have to deal with that as a country going forward, as we work on the security piece. Give us some perspective, if you can, senator. Have you ever seen anything like this unfold in washington, d. C. . Youve been around for a while, as i have. Closing down the national mall, closing down the washington metro system, airbnb canceling reservations, the actions you just reported about the post office, this is as if we were under, you know, attack from a foreign enemy. And whats so sad about it is that its an attack on our democracy from within, instigated by the president of the United States. These are the kind of forces you would normally see, you know, protecting us from an external enemy. And yet here we are, trying to protect ourselves from a violent mob and people who have been lied to, people who believe the president when he says that he was cheated out of an election. Were going to have to come to grips with this. This is why its so important that republican members of congress who helped fuel these lies, who gave oxygen to these lies, have got to say publicly that they are wrong and that theyre going to reverse their statements. Thats the very least that they could do at this point. Lets quickly talk about impeachment for a moment. Youre a senator, i spoke to your colleague senator jeff merkley just a little while ago. He thinks the impeachment trial potentially could be very quick, maybe even two or three days. Do you agree, or are you worried it could drag out, bog down the incoming administrations agenda . Well, were hoping to move it quickly. Of course theres only one count, one article of impeachment here that the president incited the insurrection. What we dont know, wolf, is what kind of defense the president intends to put on. Hes entitled to put on a defense. Right now apparently theyre having trouble finding people who want to conduct that defense for him. So the timeline depends partly on that. We are working very hard to double track our activity in the senate, so that we can proceed with nominees for the biden administration. Hearings will start on tuesday, the day before the inauguration, for some of the key National Security posts. But were hopping to double track this so we can do two things at once. Because under the normally rules, i dont know if there will be normal rules, for a former president as opposed to a sitting president , the impeachment trial, all 100 members are supposed to gather at noon, 12 00 noon each day. That dominates the rest of the day, basically. So you would have to have confirmation hearings and other business in the morning, is that what youre thinking . Thats right, wolf. It may require the cooperation of senator mcconnell and some of our republican colleagues. This will be an early indication as to whether or not they will, you know, take joe bidens hand in some kind of bipartisan actions, at least with respect to nominations. We hope theyll also join us on the president elects American Rescue plan, the economic plan you laid out, to fight the pandemic, as well. Well have to see on that. But at the very least they should help clear some of these nominations for essential National Security positions. To convict the president , he will then be the former president , you will need, assuming all 50 Democratic Senators vote in favor of conviction, youll need 17 republican senators, a twothirds majority, 67 senators to convict. Do you think thats realistic . Heres what i know. I know ive talked to a number of republican senators. And theres no disagreement that the president s conduct warrants conviction. Look, people witnessed this with their own eyes. Youve got the violent mob, members of that mob saying that they were sent to the capitol by donald trump. I mean, they want pardons from him now because they were doing his bidding. So the evidence is very clear that the president instigated this. It was on the heels, of course, of them trying to coerce the georgia secretary of state. The only question is whether republicans will do publicly what they acknowledge privately is really a nobrainer when it comes to conviction. Senator Chris Van Hollen of maryland, thanks so much for joining us, stay safe out there. We will certainly stay in touch. Thank you, wolf. To our viewers, youre watching a special edition of the situation room. President elect joe biden ready to roll back some of President Trumps biggest policies on the very first day of his new administration. Be sure to join cnn for allday live coverage of the inauguration of president elect joe biden. A historymaking event in unprecedented times. 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