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CNNW The Van Jones Show March 30, 2019
First, you got
President Trump
who claims total vindication in the russia investigation. Well, hold on. Turns out bob muellers actual report is almost 400 pages, and all weve seen is a fourpage summary put together by one of the president s political appointees, and even trumps attorney general bill barr acknowledged that mueller stopped short of exonerating the president on the question of obstruction. So lets see the full report, please. But the mere fact that trump trash talked a prosecutor the whole time and didnt get charged with anything, let me tell you something, dont try that in the hood. If an ordinary citizen repeatedly, publicly insulted their district attorney, they would get like 20 additional charges and have to plead to something. So if you got power, our system treats you very differently, and speaking of power and celebrity. I dont even know what to say about
Jussie Smollett
and that case. All the charges are now dropped. The record sealed. Now look, chicago cops have been accused of some shady stuff in the past, but they swear theyve got tons of evidence that proves the actors claim of being a hate crime victim is totally bogus. But like mueller, the
Illinois State
Attorneys Office
says theyre not exonerating smollett but theyre not charging him or anyone else, so he gets a break for what appears to be a massive hoax because hes accused of a nonviolent crime, doesnt have a long rap sheet, et cetera. Okay. The problem is most americans dont get the same special considerations from the justice system. Consider this, we got a woman in texas serving five years in prison right now for voting. You heard that right. Crystal mason had been convicted of a felony. She served her time. Since she didnt realize it was illegal for him to vote in texas, she was arrested after casting a provisional ballot in 2016. Thats right, a provisional ballot, meaning her vote may not have even counted. Also, this week i worked to right the wrong that happened to demetrius anderson, he served time and got out of jail 13 years ago. Since then productive member of his community, two jobs, an apartment, a member of his local church. But last week he got handcuffed and taken to court and told he might have to serve an additional 16 months behind bars. Why . Because someone made what seems to be a clerical error and freed him a little bit early years ago. Now fortunately after major social
Justice Movement
and some national tv appearances, it appears the case has been resolved and anderson wont have to go back to jail, but it shouldnt have taken all that. It shouldnt have been so hard. We need a fair system that gives every american an equal benefit of the doubt. And thats why ive been working so hard for a bipartisan criminal justice reform, and speaking of common sense, my next guest just might be one of the most reasonable and level headed candidates weve seen so far in the 2020 race. Hes also the youngest. Here is my interview with pete buttigi buttigieg. Hey. Look at this. They love this guy. [ applause ] you are having a moment, sir. You are having a moment. Look, cnns calling you the hottest candidate in this race. Scarborough after you came on his show basically compared you to barack obama himself. How does it feel . I mean, three weeks ago almost nobody knew who you were outside of indiana, and now people are beginning to come around. How does that feel . It feels great. You know, im trying not to let it go to my head because im the same person i was three weeks ago, and more importantly i need to make sure i stay the same person for the road ahead, but its reassuring to know that when we get our message in front of people, they respond. People are excited about the idea of generational change. Theyre excited about a new vocabulary for democrats in defending our values, and whether were in the early states or whether were making the rounds in the media, just seeing that powerful response that be so motivating and so reassuring. Did it show up in the fundraisi fundraising . Did it show up in crowd size . Is it getting to you . Do you know that somethings changing . Can you feel it . Oh, yeah, you can definitely i cant explain it. As i travel more and more people are coming up to me. And you know, often when people know youre running for office, they come up and talk about themselves. They talk about their stories and what it means to them. Thats gone through the roof. The fundraising is great. We could always use more if anybody feels motivated to go to peteforamerica. Com and lend a hand. Theres this intangible energy that you can just feel when i walk into a room. This is a generationally
Different Campaign
in that theres so many people running, and people they have a big moment, and then they just go down. Are you scared a little bit . I mean, you know a few weeks ago somebody else was the flavor of the month. Are you scared when you announced you might then get the pinata treatment . Yeah, definitely the better youre doing the more people are going to decide to take you down a peg. Thats just politics. Thats how it works, and you shouldnt be in this field unless youre ready to defend your record and explain your values. I think really the way you surf voouf t survive the flavor of the month period, the way you do it is through substance. Youve got to make sure youre putting forward something that others arent, or tlaat least t youve got a fresh and different vocabulary that can reach people that maybe have tuned us out. Im worried, especially coming from the industrial midwest that our party has trouble reaching people that actually believe in our values. They just havent heard from us for a while. Coming from that part of the country as well as the generational background i have, and the background of being a mayor, which puts you in a different head space, i think, than if you go to work for washington every day. I think that might create a way to reach people differently. It is interesting because youre talking about that industrial heartland, some of the people who may not feel as comfortable with the democratic party, yet some of our candidates like yourself, like b beto, like biden, they continue to have to almost apologize. Bloomberg says all the white guys are on an apology tour because of this kind of demographic challenge inside the party. Do you think its tough to be a white guy in our party reaching out to those mid western industrial voters at the same time the base of our party looks very different . I think what can create a problem is if we think weve got to choose one or the other. I mean, if reaching out to
White Working Class
voters has to mean walking away from our commitments on racial and social justice, we shouldnt even be here. We have to be able to build a coalition that knits these forces together. [ applause ] you know, i agree, its just easier said than done. I mean, and it seems like the trip wire is so easy to set off. Youre going to have to apologize for
White Privilege
at some point. I mean, how are you going to handle doing what you just said needs to get done . In some ways if youre a white candidate, you need to be thinking and talking about things like
White Privilege
. I dont know that its an apology tour. Its an honest engagement in good faith among people who have had radically different experiences but largely shared interests. Weve got to figure out a way to use identity as a business of solidarity, right . Right now identity as a means of division is being mastered by this white house. Were in a moment of peak white identity politics, and its being used to divide us across the working and middle class, to divide us regionally, to divide us on partisan lines. Its never going to be easier. Its always easier to use political rhetoric to make people feel small and afraid and less kind toward others. Its harder to use political rhetoric to make people feel big hearted and secure and forward looking. It can be done, and then thats one of the reasons to get into this in the first place. Is that why is it because of all the division you saw that you felt like that even at such a young age you need to get out there. Its not like i grew up thinking im going to wait until i get to 37 and then boom. Its more a moment that i think calls for something completely different, and i think you can tell that by the fact that there are so many of us. The fact that youve got somewhere between 10 and 20 people looking at this and no ones been able to command even a decisive plurality. I think it tells you that voters in the party and in the country are looking for something completely different, in many ways for that reason. I think the generational piece is an advantage. Weve got a lot of leadership. Id be 39 at inauguration. Thats the same age as the president of france. I think thats slightly older than the
Prime Minister
of new zealand whos just become on the world stage a remarkable leader. I think its less a question of are you old enough and more a question of what do you have to say. Another question a will the lot of people have been trying to answer is the vp question. Do you feel like its important to have a woman as your vp or a person of color as your vp . How do you deal with that as we try to get all the excitement together and a change together . I think its a healthy conversation to have. I would feel presumptuous saying anything about who my vp was, but i do think what i know is our party needs to be led by faces that reflect its diversity, and that includes gender dwiiversity. Our ticket should reflect that. Our leadership should reflect that. Weve worked very hard to establish that in my administration back home. Were working on building a
Campaign Team
that reflects that. I think thats fair game to ask anybody who wants to lead a ticket, especially if they turn out to be white and male. Yeah. [ applause ] you know, were in this situation now where i think the democrats have always wanted we are the party of inclusion, et cetera, but now this question around antijewish sentiment has hit the front pages and you had donald trump saying that the democrats are actually an antijewish party. So the president is, i think, using as he often does these kinds of divisions and stereotypes in order to break our coalition. Its not like the president cares about antisemitism. This is somebody who literally couldnt even condemn like straight up outright jews will not replace us neonazis. Lets not take his cue on issues like antisemitism. He does have a jewish daughter, a jewish soninlaw, and jewish grandkids. It sounds like i have a lot of black friends. Okay. But hes still making an excuse for neonazis. This isnt about him. This is about us, and we need to find a way in this country to debate policies in israel. To recognize that supporting israel can still include being critical of the israeli right wing, but also we absolutely have to make sure that it never slides into these antisemitic stereotypes, things that echo some of the worst of what weve seen, and being held accountable for that is a healthy thing. You are a small town mayor in a red state, and people voted for trump and you in your town. What do you know about trump voters that the rest of us dont know that youre able to see through some of this crazy stuff and still appeal to them . I think theres a sense of hostility to the system, to the economic and political system that we live in, and that part of whats motivated some of these voters is not wrong. Dont get me wrong, im not making any excuse for some of the explicit appeals to racism that were made and in some cases worked. But at the same time, weve also got to recognize that if we come off if hes saying the systems rigged and the way hes saying it is twisted and not really true, but theres a kernel of truth in there, and we look like were the ones saying, oh, no, the system is perfectly fine, then weve got a problem. Democrats are already i think experiencing this temptation to say first, you know, this is chaos. The white house is chaotic. We cant go on like this. Its tearing us apart, that parts true. But the second part thats tempting, therefore lets go back to normal. The problem is normal wasnt working for a lot of people. Over decades when republican and democrat president s have let us down, and democrats cant take it back to the 90s anymore than conservatives can take us back to the 50s. Weve got a lot more to talk about with you when we get back. Mayor pete says we cant look for greatness in the past. We need to focus on the future. I want to talk with him about what he thinks the future looks like when we get back. Many have style. Few have pure grace. Many have strength. Few have raw power and many possess beauty but only a few can touch our souls. There are many suvs, but theres only one legend. The 2019
Jeep Grand Cherokee
the most awarded suv ever. Driven each day to pursue bioplifechanging cures. Ers. In a country built on fostering innovation. Here, they find breakthroughs. Like a way to fight cancer by arming a patients own tcells. And a new therapy that gives the blind a working gene so they can see again. Because its not just about the next breakthrough. Its all the ones after that. So, recently my sons band was signed by a record label. While were on the road, i can keep my parents in the loop with the whole facetime thing. I created a rockstar. both laughing announcer the best network is even better when you share it. Buy the latest iphone and get iphone 10r on us. If you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, every day can begin with flakes. Its a reminder of your struggles with psoriasis. But what if your psoriasis symptoms didnt follow you around . Thats why theres ilumya. With just 2 doses, a majority of people were clear or almost clear. And over time, even more people were clear or almost clear. All with dosing 4 times a year. After 2 initial doses. Plus, ilumya was shown to have similar risks of infections compared to placebo. Dont use if you are allergic to ilumya or any of its ingredients. Before starting treatment, your doctor should check for tuberculosis and infections. After checking there is no need for routine
Lab Monitoring
unless your doctor advises it. Ilumya may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. Tell your doctor if you have an infection or have symptoms, or if you plan to or have recently received a vaccine. This could be your chance to leave your psoriasis symptoms behind. Ask your doctor for ilumya today, for a clearer tomorrow. Welcome back to the van jones show. I am here with a president ial hopeful and the mayor of south bend. My brother pete, now listen. You are the author of a new book, its called the shortest way home, one
Mayors Challenge
and a model for americas future and even though youre very young, youve done so much, and youve been through so much. Tell us something that you learned as mayor, a tough thing that happened to you as mayor that you learned from that could help you be president of the
United States
. One thing i learned about and i write about a little in the book is the importance of the symbolic power of an office. This is not what i ran for mayor for. I actually kind of wanted to push all that stuff off to the side and just do policy. Thats why i ran. I came out of the consulting world, i wanted to measure everything and have everything be, you know, in terms of things i could count. Thats part of my approach to government even now, but what i learned is that actually that symbolic stuff that i used to hate, the kind of ribbon cuttings and appearances where it didnt seem like there was a lot of substance to it other than just standing there, actually, theres a lot of power in that too. I write about a situation where i found myself at the scene of a homicide. It was next day, and what i didnt realize i was just trying to figure out the same location there had been two different incidents. I was trying to understand what happened there. I just went quietly one morning there and inadvertently was there as family members of the victim were starting to gather, and i began to i was sweating. In a way i didnt want to talk to them because i didnt feel like i had the skills to talk to them. I didnt know anything about grief counseling or psychology. What do i know about how to make them feel better, but the conversation that developed was actually really beautiful, and it was when i realized it wasnt so much about me and what i had to offer and my skills, it was that i was the city. As the mayor i was a walking symbol of the fact that the city cared about what happened to that family. Its that symbolic stuff, its not a policy but it really matter and you can tell when we dont have it in an office that we need it. Youve been talking a lot about change. You talked about white identity politics and people being divided. Youve never had a country trying to do what were trying to do, a democratic republic doing a demographic republic. What can someone like you offer to a country going through
Something Like
that . You know, i think its incredibly important to, again, lean on the kind of moral authority of an office as well as the policies. I mean, theres some specific policies that need to be undertaken in order to deal with, for example, racial patterns of inequality in this country, but its also about expressing the fact that our country welcomes and embraces that diversity. Part of that, you know, one thing i read somewhere that i think is really smart is that people dont resist change as such. They resist loss, and theyre afraid of changes when they think theyre going to lose something, and especially at this moment when weve been sold this very zero sum view that makes, for example, people in a majority feel like their well being somehow depends on staying in that majority, which just isnt going to happen. For example, for white america, belonging to a generation that is more diverse than the generation after mine will still be more diverse than that. But that doesnt have to harm anybody. I think whats resonating is your intention. Like, you clearly want to be a
Healing Force
in the country, and i think people really want that in your fresh approach. I think what sometimes is diskor de dant for some of the things democrats are saying are these almost alarming proposals. For instance, if people are already feeling demographically challenged but at least they count because the
Electoral College
gives them some kind of a place, youre saying throw the
Electoral College
out, which is very scary for people because theyre thinking, jeez, these guys are going to come in. Theyre going to change the rules. Theyre going to rig it for themselves now. Why would you throw out the
President Trump<\/a> who claims total vindication in the russia investigation. Well, hold on. Turns out bob muellers actual report is almost 400 pages, and all weve seen is a fourpage summary put together by one of the president s political appointees, and even trumps attorney general bill barr acknowledged that mueller stopped short of exonerating the president on the question of obstruction. So lets see the full report, please. But the mere fact that trump trash talked a prosecutor the whole time and didnt get charged with anything, let me tell you something, dont try that in the hood. If an ordinary citizen repeatedly, publicly insulted their district attorney, they would get like 20 additional charges and have to plead to something. So if you got power, our system treats you very differently, and speaking of power and celebrity. I dont even know what to say about
Jussie Smollett<\/a> and that case. All the charges are now dropped. The record sealed. Now look, chicago cops have been accused of some shady stuff in the past, but they swear theyve got tons of evidence that proves the actors claim of being a hate crime victim is totally bogus. But like mueller, the
Illinois State<\/a>
Attorneys Office<\/a> says theyre not exonerating smollett but theyre not charging him or anyone else, so he gets a break for what appears to be a massive hoax because hes accused of a nonviolent crime, doesnt have a long rap sheet, et cetera. Okay. The problem is most americans dont get the same special considerations from the justice system. Consider this, we got a woman in texas serving five years in prison right now for voting. You heard that right. Crystal mason had been convicted of a felony. She served her time. Since she didnt realize it was illegal for him to vote in texas, she was arrested after casting a provisional ballot in 2016. Thats right, a provisional ballot, meaning her vote may not have even counted. Also, this week i worked to right the wrong that happened to demetrius anderson, he served time and got out of jail 13 years ago. Since then productive member of his community, two jobs, an apartment, a member of his local church. But last week he got handcuffed and taken to court and told he might have to serve an additional 16 months behind bars. Why . Because someone made what seems to be a clerical error and freed him a little bit early years ago. Now fortunately after major social
Justice Movement<\/a> and some national tv appearances, it appears the case has been resolved and anderson wont have to go back to jail, but it shouldnt have taken all that. It shouldnt have been so hard. We need a fair system that gives every american an equal benefit of the doubt. And thats why ive been working so hard for a bipartisan criminal justice reform, and speaking of common sense, my next guest just might be one of the most reasonable and level headed candidates weve seen so far in the 2020 race. Hes also the youngest. Here is my interview with pete buttigi buttigieg. Hey. Look at this. They love this guy. [ applause ] you are having a moment, sir. You are having a moment. Look, cnns calling you the hottest candidate in this race. Scarborough after you came on his show basically compared you to barack obama himself. How does it feel . I mean, three weeks ago almost nobody knew who you were outside of indiana, and now people are beginning to come around. How does that feel . It feels great. You know, im trying not to let it go to my head because im the same person i was three weeks ago, and more importantly i need to make sure i stay the same person for the road ahead, but its reassuring to know that when we get our message in front of people, they respond. People are excited about the idea of generational change. Theyre excited about a new vocabulary for democrats in defending our values, and whether were in the early states or whether were making the rounds in the media, just seeing that powerful response that be so motivating and so reassuring. Did it show up in the fundraisi fundraising . Did it show up in crowd size . Is it getting to you . Do you know that somethings changing . Can you feel it . Oh, yeah, you can definitely i cant explain it. As i travel more and more people are coming up to me. And you know, often when people know youre running for office, they come up and talk about themselves. They talk about their stories and what it means to them. Thats gone through the roof. The fundraising is great. We could always use more if anybody feels motivated to go to peteforamerica. Com and lend a hand. Theres this intangible energy that you can just feel when i walk into a room. This is a generationally
Different Campaign<\/a> in that theres so many people running, and people they have a big moment, and then they just go down. Are you scared a little bit . I mean, you know a few weeks ago somebody else was the flavor of the month. Are you scared when you announced you might then get the pinata treatment . Yeah, definitely the better youre doing the more people are going to decide to take you down a peg. Thats just politics. Thats how it works, and you shouldnt be in this field unless youre ready to defend your record and explain your values. I think really the way you surf voouf t survive the flavor of the month period, the way you do it is through substance. Youve got to make sure youre putting forward something that others arent, or tlaat least t youve got a fresh and different vocabulary that can reach people that maybe have tuned us out. Im worried, especially coming from the industrial midwest that our party has trouble reaching people that actually believe in our values. They just havent heard from us for a while. Coming from that part of the country as well as the generational background i have, and the background of being a mayor, which puts you in a different head space, i think, than if you go to work for washington every day. I think that might create a way to reach people differently. It is interesting because youre talking about that industrial heartland, some of the people who may not feel as comfortable with the democratic party, yet some of our candidates like yourself, like b beto, like biden, they continue to have to almost apologize. Bloomberg says all the white guys are on an apology tour because of this kind of demographic challenge inside the party. Do you think its tough to be a white guy in our party reaching out to those mid western industrial voters at the same time the base of our party looks very different . I think what can create a problem is if we think weve got to choose one or the other. I mean, if reaching out to
White Working Class<\/a> voters has to mean walking away from our commitments on racial and social justice, we shouldnt even be here. We have to be able to build a coalition that knits these forces together. [ applause ] you know, i agree, its just easier said than done. I mean, and it seems like the trip wire is so easy to set off. Youre going to have to apologize for
White Privilege<\/a> at some point. I mean, how are you going to handle doing what you just said needs to get done . In some ways if youre a white candidate, you need to be thinking and talking about things like
White Privilege<\/a>. I dont know that its an apology tour. Its an honest engagement in good faith among people who have had radically different experiences but largely shared interests. Weve got to figure out a way to use identity as a business of solidarity, right . Right now identity as a means of division is being mastered by this white house. Were in a moment of peak white identity politics, and its being used to divide us across the working and middle class, to divide us regionally, to divide us on partisan lines. Its never going to be easier. Its always easier to use political rhetoric to make people feel small and afraid and less kind toward others. Its harder to use political rhetoric to make people feel big hearted and secure and forward looking. It can be done, and then thats one of the reasons to get into this in the first place. Is that why is it because of all the division you saw that you felt like that even at such a young age you need to get out there. Its not like i grew up thinking im going to wait until i get to 37 and then boom. Its more a moment that i think calls for something completely different, and i think you can tell that by the fact that there are so many of us. The fact that youve got somewhere between 10 and 20 people looking at this and no ones been able to command even a decisive plurality. I think it tells you that voters in the party and in the country are looking for something completely different, in many ways for that reason. I think the generational piece is an advantage. Weve got a lot of leadership. Id be 39 at inauguration. Thats the same age as the president of france. I think thats slightly older than the
Prime Minister<\/a> of new zealand whos just become on the world stage a remarkable leader. I think its less a question of are you old enough and more a question of what do you have to say. Another question a will the lot of people have been trying to answer is the vp question. Do you feel like its important to have a woman as your vp or a person of color as your vp . How do you deal with that as we try to get all the excitement together and a change together . I think its a healthy conversation to have. I would feel presumptuous saying anything about who my vp was, but i do think what i know is our party needs to be led by faces that reflect its diversity, and that includes gender dwiiversity. Our ticket should reflect that. Our leadership should reflect that. Weve worked very hard to establish that in my administration back home. Were working on building a
Campaign Team<\/a> that reflects that. I think thats fair game to ask anybody who wants to lead a ticket, especially if they turn out to be white and male. Yeah. [ applause ] you know, were in this situation now where i think the democrats have always wanted we are the party of inclusion, et cetera, but now this question around antijewish sentiment has hit the front pages and you had donald trump saying that the democrats are actually an antijewish party. So the president is, i think, using as he often does these kinds of divisions and stereotypes in order to break our coalition. Its not like the president cares about antisemitism. This is somebody who literally couldnt even condemn like straight up outright jews will not replace us neonazis. Lets not take his cue on issues like antisemitism. He does have a jewish daughter, a jewish soninlaw, and jewish grandkids. It sounds like i have a lot of black friends. Okay. But hes still making an excuse for neonazis. This isnt about him. This is about us, and we need to find a way in this country to debate policies in israel. To recognize that supporting israel can still include being critical of the israeli right wing, but also we absolutely have to make sure that it never slides into these antisemitic stereotypes, things that echo some of the worst of what weve seen, and being held accountable for that is a healthy thing. You are a small town mayor in a red state, and people voted for trump and you in your town. What do you know about trump voters that the rest of us dont know that youre able to see through some of this crazy stuff and still appeal to them . I think theres a sense of hostility to the system, to the economic and political system that we live in, and that part of whats motivated some of these voters is not wrong. Dont get me wrong, im not making any excuse for some of the explicit appeals to racism that were made and in some cases worked. But at the same time, weve also got to recognize that if we come off if hes saying the systems rigged and the way hes saying it is twisted and not really true, but theres a kernel of truth in there, and we look like were the ones saying, oh, no, the system is perfectly fine, then weve got a problem. Democrats are already i think experiencing this temptation to say first, you know, this is chaos. The white house is chaotic. We cant go on like this. Its tearing us apart, that parts true. But the second part thats tempting, therefore lets go back to normal. The problem is normal wasnt working for a lot of people. Over decades when republican and democrat president s have let us down, and democrats cant take it back to the 90s anymore than conservatives can take us back to the 50s. Weve got a lot more to talk about with you when we get back. Mayor pete says we cant look for greatness in the past. We need to focus on the future. I want to talk with him about what he thinks the future looks like when we get back. Many have style. Few have pure grace. Many have strength. Few have raw power and many possess beauty but only a few can touch our souls. There are many suvs, but theres only one legend. The 2019
Jeep Grand Cherokee<\/a> the most awarded suv ever. Driven each day to pursue bioplifechanging cures. Ers. In a country built on fostering innovation. Here, they find breakthroughs. Like a way to fight cancer by arming a patients own tcells. And a new therapy that gives the blind a working gene so they can see again. Because its not just about the next breakthrough. Its all the ones after that. So, recently my sons band was signed by a record label. While were on the road, i can keep my parents in the loop with the whole facetime thing. I created a rockstar. both laughing announcer the best network is even better when you share it. Buy the latest iphone and get iphone 10r on us. If you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, every day can begin with flakes. Its a reminder of your struggles with psoriasis. But what if your psoriasis symptoms didnt follow you around . Thats why theres ilumya. With just 2 doses, a majority of people were clear or almost clear. And over time, even more people were clear or almost clear. All with dosing 4 times a year. After 2 initial doses. Plus, ilumya was shown to have similar risks of infections compared to placebo. Dont use if you are allergic to ilumya or any of its ingredients. Before starting treatment, your doctor should check for tuberculosis and infections. After checking there is no need for routine
Lab Monitoring<\/a> unless your doctor advises it. Ilumya may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. Tell your doctor if you have an infection or have symptoms, or if you plan to or have recently received a vaccine. This could be your chance to leave your psoriasis symptoms behind. Ask your doctor for ilumya today, for a clearer tomorrow. Welcome back to the van jones show. I am here with a president ial hopeful and the mayor of south bend. My brother pete, now listen. You are the author of a new book, its called the shortest way home, one
Mayors Challenge<\/a> and a model for americas future and even though youre very young, youve done so much, and youve been through so much. Tell us something that you learned as mayor, a tough thing that happened to you as mayor that you learned from that could help you be president of the
United States<\/a> . One thing i learned about and i write about a little in the book is the importance of the symbolic power of an office. This is not what i ran for mayor for. I actually kind of wanted to push all that stuff off to the side and just do policy. Thats why i ran. I came out of the consulting world, i wanted to measure everything and have everything be, you know, in terms of things i could count. Thats part of my approach to government even now, but what i learned is that actually that symbolic stuff that i used to hate, the kind of ribbon cuttings and appearances where it didnt seem like there was a lot of substance to it other than just standing there, actually, theres a lot of power in that too. I write about a situation where i found myself at the scene of a homicide. It was next day, and what i didnt realize i was just trying to figure out the same location there had been two different incidents. I was trying to understand what happened there. I just went quietly one morning there and inadvertently was there as family members of the victim were starting to gather, and i began to i was sweating. In a way i didnt want to talk to them because i didnt feel like i had the skills to talk to them. I didnt know anything about grief counseling or psychology. What do i know about how to make them feel better, but the conversation that developed was actually really beautiful, and it was when i realized it wasnt so much about me and what i had to offer and my skills, it was that i was the city. As the mayor i was a walking symbol of the fact that the city cared about what happened to that family. Its that symbolic stuff, its not a policy but it really matter and you can tell when we dont have it in an office that we need it. Youve been talking a lot about change. You talked about white identity politics and people being divided. Youve never had a country trying to do what were trying to do, a democratic republic doing a demographic republic. What can someone like you offer to a country going through
Something Like<\/a> that . You know, i think its incredibly important to, again, lean on the kind of moral authority of an office as well as the policies. I mean, theres some specific policies that need to be undertaken in order to deal with, for example, racial patterns of inequality in this country, but its also about expressing the fact that our country welcomes and embraces that diversity. Part of that, you know, one thing i read somewhere that i think is really smart is that people dont resist change as such. They resist loss, and theyre afraid of changes when they think theyre going to lose something, and especially at this moment when weve been sold this very zero sum view that makes, for example, people in a majority feel like their well being somehow depends on staying in that majority, which just isnt going to happen. For example, for white america, belonging to a generation that is more diverse than the generation after mine will still be more diverse than that. But that doesnt have to harm anybody. I think whats resonating is your intention. Like, you clearly want to be a
Healing Force<\/a> in the country, and i think people really want that in your fresh approach. I think what sometimes is diskor de dant for some of the things democrats are saying are these almost alarming proposals. For instance, if people are already feeling demographically challenged but at least they count because the
Electoral College<\/a> gives them some kind of a place, youre saying throw the
Electoral College<\/a> out, which is very scary for people because theyre thinking, jeez, these guys are going to come in. Theyre going to change the rules. Theyre going to rig it for themselves now. Why would you throw out the
Electoral College<\/a> . Why dont you just say im going to go get those industrial states we lost . Theres two reasons its important to talk about that. The first is i think its a good policy. At the risk of sounding simplistic, i think in a democratic republic the person who gets the most votes ought to be the person that wins. [ applause ] states dont vote. People do, and the reality is this doesnt even benefit small states systemsystematically. A small state like wyoming is left out, same as a big state like california, or a medium sized state, that most years campaigns dont bother to talk to us. Just that simple idea of one person, one vote i think is the right thing to do. The other reason and im under no illusion about how difficult it would be to do that. The other reason i bring it up is because i want to remind everybody that structural remedies are an option, that one of the most elegant features in our constitution is its selfhealing mechanism where you can amend it to make sure it keeps with the times. And so whether its on that issue or making sure that we reform the
Supreme Court<\/a> is not about making it more to the left. Its about making it less politicized. Lets talk about the technological changes. Youve spoken to the fact that you think that automation and
Artificial Intelligence<\/a> may wipe out a bunch of jobs. Right. I mean, so youre setting yourself up as kind of like mayor pete versus the robots, okay . So how are you going to win that fight . So the thing is the robots are coming with or without us. One of the things weve got to realize is that automation and
Artificial Intelligence<\/a> are only going to pick up speed in our lifetime, and weve got to have a way of getting ahead of those changes before they wreck us. Im from a community that resolved around the
Auto Industry<\/a> until the 60s, and when those factories left, it brought our city to its knees. We didnt really see this one coming, so shame on us if we dont do something about it. The answer thats being sold out of the white house to deal with change is were going to stop it. There wont be any change. Were going to make
America Great<\/a> again. What would you do . Part of its through policy. Its things like making sure that your health care doesnt depend on your workplace, especially if youre going to go through 12 workplaces in your life. But the same also with things like benefits,
Retirement Benefits<\/a> need to get decoupled from this assumption thats no longer true that you can count on one workplace for the rest of your life. Its not just policy, theres also something deeper. That comes back to this sense of belonging i was talking about. We need to make sure people have a source of identity, and there are some really good answers for where you get your identity. It could come from family. It could come from faith. It could come from community, but if we dont, thats when some really ugly answers come in that will fill that void. Were going to go from the policy to the personal, okay . I want to talk to you about some of the lessons that come to you from your late father and also from your new husband dealing with the national spotlight, and so much more when we get back with mayor pete. Choosing my
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American Values<\/a> are understood to be inseparable from each other, then when we show leadership people respond, and that includes when we show by an election that we are an inclusive country, whether thats about an lgbt leader or in some other way that other countries leaders would actually be to some extent forced by
World Opinion<\/a> to make some advancements. Its one of the things thats at stake right now if america is not trusted, is not respected, then it wont matter what we have to say about that or any other human rights issue. Thats right. You lost your father very recently as well. So much change happening to you in such a short period of time. How are you dealing with that just, you know, i lost my mom last year. Im sorry. And its just youre doing well for a few days in a row, and sometimes it catches you when you dont expect. How are you managing that loss in the middle of all this . The problem, you know, with grieving is it simply takes time, and not just the passage of time, but you have to spend time reckoning with loss. Its still pretty fresh. It was about a couple of months ago that we lost dad. I still you know, its funny, sometimes ill be reading something about him, like from a remembrance and think like, oh, i got to send this to him. Hed love it, and the only thing i know how to do is to kind of keep that relationship alive through what im doing, through my words and my actions and to try to, you know, to try to make him proud. Yeah. I dont think theres any doubt about that. You know, most people who have gone to oxford, who have gone to harvard, when they talk to people they sometimes they condescend. They dont mean to, but it happens. You dont condescend. Where does that come from . Is that from your dad . Is it from your mom . Is it from your faith . Help me understand that. Its such a beautiful thing to watch. Certainly all of those things. I think my parents made it clear that they loved me, but im not supposed to go around thinking im special more than anybody else, and my faith, at least my understanding of my faith, is about humility. You know, the imagery of christ when the divine comes to earth as being in a servant mode, it comes from my community, you know, a community that i think just wants you to keep your feet on the ground. It comes from my relationships. My husband who will never let my head get too big because weve got laundry to deal with at home. And more than anything, maybe the experience of being mayor, actually, and the role that you have there, and lastly, id say my military experience where, you know, i was kind of an unusual situation for me. I was actually already mayor when i got deployed in the reserve to afghanistan, so i went from mayor to lieutenant, and over there i was taking orders a lot more than i was giving them, and also learning how to trust people who are radically different than me with my life, and how to live up to them trusting me with their lives, and nothing is more humbling than that. Listen, i sometimes despair that our oldest president is maybe our least mature, but it looks like our youngest candidate is our most mature. And i wish you well, well, well. Thank you. [ applause ] mayor pete. Coming up, were going to get into this whole disturbing rise of
White Nationalism<\/a>. We just saw it in those attacks in new zealand. Its also on the rise here in our own country. Were going to hear from a guy who was once a rising star in that hateful movement. He was actually raised by leaders of the ku klux klan. Hes now renouncing his past and working on ending racism. Find out how he went from being a hater to a healer when we get back. Mornings were made for
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White Nationalism<\/a> is a growing threat but his own fbi says hate crimes are on the rise. I spoke with a young man who has a unique insight into the
White Nationalist<\/a> movement. His father was a leader in the ku klux klan, and his god father is david duke, but the experiences in college profou profoundly changed him, and he ended up denouncing and apologizing for his past views. Take a look at my interview with derek black. Look, man, it takes courage to change anything, to change your whole world view takes a lot of courage. Help us understand before we talk about that, why do you think all of this is happening now . What is behind this appeal for
White Nationalism<\/a> in america . Coming from that background that i do, its always been happening. Its always been sometimes not on tv, but its always been there. Theres always been people who were saying those things you saw at charlottesville, theres always been politicians saying the things that donald trump says now. They didnt get as much support, and i think we didnt pay as much attention to them as we probably should have. Mmhmm. You actually were able to run for office and win using some of these kind of dog whistles. One of the dog whistles that you found effective when you were part of this movement to mainstream these ideas. Yeah, i ran for this
Little Committee<\/a> seat,
Committee Seat<\/a> in south florida, right across the water from maralago,
Donald Trumps<\/a> house there, so hes always been in my life, and i went door to door, and i said stuff like dont you think the signs in spanish are kind of undermining your culture . So dont you think that people of color who live in that other neighborhood, dont you think there needs to be more police for people like that, like these kind of messages really similar stuff to what trump said on the campaign trail, and people would react to it as long as they didnt hear the word racist, as long as they didnt hear the word, you know, im a
White Nationalist<\/a>. As long as you didnt say that sort of stuff, these are things that they viscerally reacted to. That is what the
White Nationalist<\/a> movement was saying. I would just try to figure out ways to say it that didnt freak them out so much. You were able to get normal regular people who would never say im a
White Nationalist<\/a> to resonate and vote for you. I got 62 of the vote saying that stuff. It was a small election, but i was trying to demonstrate in 2008 before a couple months before barack obama won the president ial election, i was trying to demonstrate that these kind of talking points were effective. What were some of the things that you were raised to believe as a child growing up in a kkk sort of a family . Yeah, my family pioneered taking
White Nationalism<\/a> mainstream. My dad and david duke were friends from the times they were teenagers in the 60s, and they worked together the whole time, and when david duke ran his campaigns and was successful in louisiana in the late 80s and 90s my dad was helping run the campaign and he took
White Supremacy<\/a> online. Storm front. And created the
Largest Community<\/a> for decades, and so i grew up with this
Community Around<\/a> me and the leadership and the people who were running the organizations who all had a belief that
White Nationalism<\/a> was only marginalized because, you know, because people didnt want to be called racist. And if they could get over that, if they could say stuff, if they could sanitize it just enough, then they could win elections. They always believed if they could just get the right message and the right person people would respond. But you as a child, what were you being taught . The beliefs of
White Nationalism<\/a> is that race is absolutely scientifically reel, and that it predicts all the stuff about people like black people commit crimes, and white people are smart, and all of this like stupid stuff that they back up with fake science. I want people to understand, for you to make the change that you made is a big deal. Again, you ran for office. You had a child at storm front, audit rad you had a radio show. Some of the ideas of being a spouse like ending birthright citizenship, prioritizing european immigrants over everybody else, building a wallings calliwall, calling minorities criminal. That stuff is come from the top. How does it feel to hear ideas that you and your family helped to develop suddenly now being broadcast from the very top of our society . Its terrible, right . After i renounced it, i renounced it five or six years ago, and i spent about three years thinking i would never have to talk about it again because obviously people understood that racist ideas needed to be pushed back and we needed to move forward and that we were moving forward, and i realized basically in 2015 with the president ial election that that was so naive and that the ideas that
White Nationalism<\/a>, that my family that i had pushed forward had created ways of talking about it, they got a lot of traction. They could get a lot of traction, and i started seeing tweets by the president that used the same phrasing that i had figured out how to use online in the early 2000s and thinking about that i could put out ideas that we as a
White Nationalist<\/a> community could put out ideas and even if i renounced it, you dont take the ideas back. They still bounce around. They still get picked up. People still howd that make you feel . Its terrible. There are things that continue to happen in america that i feel a little bit responsible for, and i dont know exactly how much, and i dont know exactly where to place, you know, the blame and what to do about it, and i just try to push back against racist ideas as much as i can now. But it never feels like ive balanced the scale. Yeah. Is donald trump a
White Nationalist<\/a> as best you can tell . Hes not a
White Nationalist<\/a> in the sense that i think we should reserve that term to talk about that actual movement, the people at charlottesville were
White Nationalist<\/a>s. Theyre deeply antisemitic. They believe that theres a jewish conspiracy, the shooter at the synagogue in pittsburgh was a
White Nationalist<\/a>. He was reading
White Nationalist<\/a> stuff, and donald trump is not that. What would you call donald trump . How do you see donald trump . Donald trump is a person who is at times buying into and at times i think opportunistically using the fact that
White Supremacy<\/a> is the legacy of america and its naive of us to think that its gone. We all carry around these sort of ideas about wealth, inequality being okay when its so imbalanced from white people and people of color or that incarceration affecting people of color, thats just how it happened. Like thinking that thats just normal america is buying into a white supremacist legacy, and we get really uncomfortable talking that, and donald trump at the base level is capitalizing on that. Were going to have more from my interview with derek black when we get back. Why are so many
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White Nationalist<\/a> who left that movement, a question so many have, why and how are so many young white men being drawn into
White Nationalism<\/a>. Unlike derek, most new followers dont grow up with a parent in the plan. The suspect in the new zealand mosque attacks wrote in his racist manifesto that he came from a regular family and had a regular childhood. How do you go from that to killing 50 people in a mosque and calling them invaders . Well, i did some research and i created this explainer. Just a warning, some of these images are disturbing. I think its important for us to look and understand whats going on. The conventional wisdom was that racism was going to die out with the precivil rights generation, but the folks who were marching in charlottesville were not old men in klan hoods. Most of them appeared to be millennials. The man convicted of running over and killing protester
Heath Heather<\/a> heyer was 20 years old at the time, and his racist views were not a secret. He told classmates about his love for hitler. He made racist comments towards other students, but few suspected that fields might commit murder. Also, no one predicted that 21yearold dylann roof would shoot and kill nine black church goers in charleston in 2015, even though roof had expressed racist views online, calling black people much difference between those radicalized into
White Nationalism<\/a> and those who pledge allegiance to isis. Theyre looking for people who lack purpose and looking for meaning in their life. They might feel angry and alienated from mainstream society. These young men are sel selfradicalized on internet at web forums. To make matters worse, many
White Nationalist<\/a>s feel bolster by what theyre seeing now in the cultural political mainstream. President trump says hes not a racist but his hesitancy to condemn racist, his dog whistles and his own policies are cheered on all over the internet. You had people that were very fine people, on both sides. And some fox news anchor regularly promote antiimmigrant and antidiversity views. How precisely is diversity a strength . The america we know and love doesnt exist any more. Think about it, omar wears a hijab, indicative of her adherence to sharia law which is antithetcal to the
United States<\/a> constitution. Its very alarming to me to see the highest levels, even anchors at fox speaking that way. Does it alarm you . Yeah. Its really, really alarming that my family watches
Tucker Carlson<\/a> show once and then watches tonight replay because they feel that he is making the
White Nationalist<\/a> talking points better than they have and theyre trying to get some tips on how to advance it. So what changed you . Looking back on it i have realized that it was a change of community. It was that i thought i understood my community and who mattered and who i was responsible for and i didnt think going to college would change that because i thought we were just right, i thought there was nothing that you could disprove about it and being in college, especially the first semester before any one knew my own background and realized theres all these people who are marginalized and attacked because of what im saying means that its absolutely hypocritical to think that i can espouse something that makes their life worse and still feel like i have some connection to their wellbeing, i have some responsibility to them and that was a conflict that was ultimately impossible to resolve. Its interesting the way that campus responded to you was mixed. Yeah. Once they found out who you were and your family background and your beliefs and your radio show, some students marched against you, they shut the campus down, they said get this guy out of here, other students wanted to kind of argue the points with you and other students, including jewish students said, you know what . Were just going to befriend this guy. How did that land in your world . Yeah. It was surprising. I showed up to the first shabbat dinner i got invited to by a guy
Matthew Stevenson<\/a> who i already knew during that period and i thought it would be a oneoff thing. I thought it was possible that people at the dinner will argue against me or kick me out or
Something Like<\/a> that and i was kind of ready for that. I was ready for arguing because i was used to arguing. I was used to talking to journalists about
White Nationalism<\/a> and saying why it was right, but what happened was i ended up spending two years coming back to the thing every week or every week that he had it and that out stretching of a hand when they knew that what my family was saying was against their community was actively making their life worse in tangible ways. They still kept inviting me. They still kept having dinner with me even though that was always there. That push and pull made a difference. Can we stop this . Do you think that theres a way to begin to arrest this thing and roll it back . I think the only answer that ive come to is some version of education and i dont want people to take my story and say, okay, we should invite nazis to dinner. Theres a place for that, obviously. It would be hypocritical for me to say what is the point of outreach, but i think the first thing you can do is to assert what your values are. I still dont think we do enough of that. Last question, do you miss your dad . I miss having a really close relationship with my family and to their credit, over the years since ive renounced, weve gotten to a point where we can text and callback and forth a few times. I try stay in touch in that way but i really hate that the family relationship is based on you believe this or maybe you dont belong. There was a real question that we would be able to stay in touch in the days after i renounced. We had conversations whether i should be still apart of the family. That hurts. It takes real courage to make any kind of change and a change that could cost you a family, the fact that youre able do that gives a lot of people a lot of hope and encouragement. Dereck is a great lesson that meaningful change is possible. I want to thank all my guests and i want to thank you for watching. Im van jones. Peace and love for one another. To walk along the lonely street of dreams here i go again on my you realize your vows are a whitesnake song . I do. If you ride, you get it. Geico motorcycle. 15 minutes could save you 15 or more. Woman this is your wakeup call. If you have moderate to severe
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