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CNNW The Van Jones Show November 2, 2019

Diplomacy. On the other hand. Democrats will keep pooh poohing the concerns about due process forgetting that millions of Republican Voters also need to feel this process is fair. So listen, investigation should go forward, but we already pretty much know what well get, party line votes and vote chambers, trump still in office and deeper divisions in america. Thats where we are. So if weve got to go through this, lets not make it worse by speaking about each other so harshly. House minority whip steve sdal ease accus scalise of holding, trump called his critics human scum and each republicans including a decorated war veteran and its not just americans and you have people screaming lock him up. Hes attacking a fellow democrat and tulsi gabbard. People are smashing on ellen for sitting next to george w. Bush at a cowboys game. And nastiness has taken over. Im just as guilty myself. Last weekend, i was in charleston, South Carolina and for the first time in my life, president ial candidates from both parties including trump will be in one place, finally acknowledging that the prison system is too big, too bloated and too unfair and that is a big turnaround for recent years where republicans and democrats were promising more prisons, so i was pumped and then Kamala Harris pulled out because trump was being honored there. I know trump has caused a lot of pain and fear in our communities and it is very hard to see him get positive credit for anything sometimes. But on this one topic, he did sign a breakthrough bipartisan bill that has so far freed thousands of people from federal prison and that bill has sparked copycat bills to state levels helping even more people. As much hell as we rightfully give trump when he does wrong, it is fair to give credit when he does something right. I tweeted out something snarky and black twitter tore me up, okay . You know what . They were right because my tone was off. I should have tweeted, kamala, please come, she came anyway, so did cory booker and mayor pete and donald trump and they all did a great job, history was made and rather than putting anybody down i should have been lifting up. In this toxic environment, all of us, myself included have to work hard to not let the nastiness pull us down. My next guests are case studies in taking the high ground and bringing people together, please welcome representatives max rose and mikie sherrill. [ cheers and applause ] welcome. Welcome. Hi. Welcome back, both of you. Oh, my goodness. You, two are in purple districts. You werent in a big rush and you werent jumping around cant wait to impeach donald trump. Were you surprised how partisan it was and how it was, and how do we get people to get around this . Mikie and i were around, youre a good luck charm because we both won. I know. We have been in congress now for a year or so, and i can remember what its like not to be in congress and when you turn on that tv, i remember seeing the news when i was deployed to afghanistan. You see elected officials just fighting with each other and it doesnt look like theyre working with the facts and it looks like there is allegiance to politics and thats what i see happening right now. The republican party, you know, they have every opportunity as we are looking at incredibly serious allegations backed up by very serious witnesses. This is credible stuff here. They have every opportunity to put the country and the constitution ahead of their own politics and as we enter into this second phase and these things become public, i certainly pray, and i hope that theyll start to put the country first. What are you guys hearing . You have very purple districts. Trump won both of your districts . What do you hear when you go home . Are they mad at you . Are they proud of you . You hear from all different kinds of people which i think is really helpful and it makes us effective legislators to try to build the broad coalitions of people who need to push the country forward and the support for the investigation. I think people want to know exactly what happened. Yeah. Same thing with you . Yeah, look, these are patriotic districts. Theyre not trump districts and rose districts. What i often hear in my community is deep cynicism about the state of our politics. I often hear, well, max, i understand that donald trump may have done something wrong, but everybody does this, you know, and i dont trust the facts and this is a witch hunt. We cant ignore that cynicism as something of just stupid deplorables. People are incredibly bright and theyre incredibly smart and cognizant of the fact that weve seen multiple generations of transactional politics and elected officials that have been bought off by a system and lied to their voters. We have got to invest in trust building and we should be coupling this with substantive and comprehensive anticorruption efforts to earn Peoples Trust back so the next time Something Like this happens irrespective of party they believe in their elected officials. I think max is exactly right here and thats what ive been saying. Were not fighting against the perception that the president did something wrong. Most people on beth sides of the aisle will admit that he did something wrong. He put his own self interests ahead of the interests of the United States and our National Security. However, what people seem to be arguing over is this idea that, oh, thats what everybody does. Weve never done that in our service to our country. We know tens of hundreds of people on both sides of the aisle that have never done that when theyve always put their country first. So the cynicism and this deeply held cynicism in the electorate is worrying. Eth above you are veterans and served honorably. What did you feel when you saw vindman when he went to testify be vilified as if he was a traitor to the country. That was horrible. Weve served with people who werent born in the country and weve seen their Honorable Service and especially to see the lieutenant kernel and all hes done in his career it was important to me that people on both sides of the aisle in the house stood up and said that that was unacceptable. Its disgusting and anybody who echoes those sentiments has no right for the rest of their public facing career to ever claim the mantel of patriotism to ever claim the mantel of the flag because what is this country if not the beacon and magnet for Anyone Around the world that want ps to pursue th American Dream for themselves and their loved ones as well. It was horrific. I wonder what you think of baghdadi. He was killed. I remember when obama got osama bin laden, democrats cheered, but there was Immediate Response from republicans and now i see the reverse. Are you concerned that the country has gotten so political now that even when a major enemy of the United States is taken off the board half the country stays silent . Im incredibly concerned about that. Weve seen the treatment of a Lieutenant Colonel by certain rightwing media because hes testifying about things that he feels he has to testify about, but theyre not good for the president. Weve seen a muted response from democrats on baghdadi. When it comes to issues of National Security and patriotism and our allies across the world, this is where we should all be together. I serve on the House Armed Services committee. It is one of the most bipartisan committees in the house because we are interested in the future of the United States and keeping people here safe and that should be that should always be a shared value. Look, i publicly offered my recognition of the president after baghdadi was killed. I think its a good thing for our National Security and i think its a good thing for global security. He was evil and he got what he was deserving of. We have to move beyond is celebrating these types of killings, and i certainly dont want to see our culture glorifying this type of violence, but it is certainly something that had to happen, and our soldiers put themselves in harms way and they do it each and every day and there are missions run like that every week that we never hear about it and those missions that never make the news also deserve recognition. Lets talk about syria and the abandonment of the kurds. How much damage does it do when donald trump and the United States walk away from the kurds who were our great allies and have left so much blood on the ground in syria, the kurds . We have fought alongside allies around the world for most of our career and we know how our allies promote our democracy and promote our power across the world and our ideals and to see us back away from the kurds who have fought alongside us and carried the burden of the isis fight in syria when we as americans were already engaged in other wars and didnt have the will to send more troops in, the kurds have lost over 11,000 people. So this is not simply oh, we paid them money and a mercenary army. These are people who have given their lives to aid us in the fight against isis and then we abandon them. My issue here with what the president did is not that it didnt allow for a kurdistan to arise and we knew that was not going to happen and he did it without an alliance that we have isis prisoners streaming out of their jails putting not only western europe in danger, but the United States in danger, too, because remember this, the number one threat that we face today is the selfradicalized lone gunmen who have been radicalized online and they now have the image and the message of isis soldiers streaming out of jails and the resurgence of the caliphate and that something that we dont want. Both of you guys ran for office not talking about a, the stuff we were talking about. You were passionate about the opioid crisis, max. And youve been passionate about infrastructure and are you concerned because of impeachment and the division and some of the stuff that ran for office that wont be talked about. That was a republican talking point. They put millions of dollars into all of our districts saying overinvestigate does not legislate or something to that effect. Lets look back to months ago, and three months ago, when it only gets sent to the senate to die in the legislate you have graveyard known as Mitch Mcconnell sentiment, its had this thats killing robust and llgz is a fallacy. Were getting things done. Sanctions put on Chinese Pharmaceutical Companies that are bringing fentanyl and killing kids throughout the country and throughout the world and theres still stuff happening here and the constitution has got to be upheld. We swore an oath to the constitution and not to politics and not to the Democratic Party and thats the same oath that we swore when we enlisted in the military and were going to maintain a commitment to that. You get an amen for that. Do i have an amen for that. Thats exactly right and well continue to work on these things. We just passed last week two great veterans bills. We also passed a bill to make sure trent kelly pass the gold star families bill to make sure we have fellowships for veterans on the hill, so when were making the life and death decisions to sendz troops ovsen and the sacrifices some families will make. We put money into infrastructure and we passed the first stand alone gun bill, gun safety bill, universal background checks and its been over t200 days that w passed it. Well continue to pass good legislation for the American People and again, its not impeachment thats holding us up and its Mitch Mcconnell refusing to move forward on legislation that would help broad groups of the American People. You guys should be a lot louder about that. One last point and one thing we did also pass was a truly aweinspiring prodemocracy and anticorruption bill and hr1. Mitch mock connells voters voted to drain the swamp. So im eager to see what Mitch Mcconnells word is, and what his message is to his own constituents as he lets hr1 languish in the senate. Mitch mcconnell is of the swamp and hes not draining and and hell suffer the consequences. I appreciate having you both. Give them a round of applause. Democracy, i love it. Thank you, very, very much. Now well go to california. The fires are continuing to rage in that state, threatening communities up and down the state. This seems like its the new normal out there, but its not normal. Well hear what its like to be on the ground and what we can be doing about this crisis from my friend, my next guest, the governor of the great state of california, gavin newsom when we co get back. Its the sleep number 360 smart bed on sale now. Can it help me fall asleep faster . Yes, by gently warming your feet. Can it help keep me asleep . Absolutely, it intelligently senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you effortlessly comfortable. 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Metamucils gelling action also helps to lower cholesterol and slows sugar absorption to promote healthy blood sugar levels. So, start feeling lighter and more energetic by taking metamucil every day. Fires continue to rage throughout california. Thousands evacuated their homes this week and tens of thousands of acres have burned. Firefighters are putting their lives on the line to protect people and historic landmarks. If you think this keeps happening, you are correct. Eight of the ten largest fires in the history of california have happened in the past 12 years and this is the impact of Climate Change and Climate Crisis playing out in front of our eyes. Hes my good friend gavin newsom. Give him a round of applause. Right there. [ applause ] listen, i know how difficult it is out there. What are you seeing and how are the people of California Holding up in this crisis . Well, youre seeing humanity at scale. Youre seeing heroism at scale. Youre seeing remarkably talented firefighters, not just state firefighters, but those mutual aid that we count on from other states and the governor of oregon sent 75 employ ins down to california. The governor of Washington State sent 25 additional engines and its a remarkable moment and it gives you time to pause and reflect that people can come together across their differences. People can rise up and step up and so in that spirit, its been enlivening, but of course, very, very challenging. Speaking of people coming together. You tweeted to President Trump some thanks in appreciation. You guys dont usually get along. What have your conversations been like with him and the rest of the federal government. I havent had a chance to dialogue directly and ive reached out to him, but his administration and his staff has been extraordinarily helpful. His National Security Homeland Security director has been helpful. Weve asked for assistance and the fmag process, which is the Fire Management assistant grant and theyve provided seven to the state of california. Its nice to see that at these times were want not at crossha and not doing the dance, and there are fundamental differences that connect the dot as you have connected to the larger issues of Climate Change and Fire Suppression where we certainly dont see eye to eye. Lets talk about the challenges with the pg e and the big utility out there and people are very frustrated. Should pg e be taking over . What needs to happen to get the utility on the side of Fire Suppression and not doing these blackouts all of the time . When i took the oath of office ten months ago they had just filed for bankruptcy coming out at the top of the show, coming out of the two most destructive wildfire seasons backtoback, 2017 and 2018. People may recall the camp fire in Northern California that took 85 lives and 19,000 structures were destroyed in that historic fire. That was it for that utility and as a consequence they filed for bankruptcy and were doing everything in our power to reimagine that utility. They regardless, theyre in the process, as you noted of these psps and these power safety shutoffs and these blackouts that impacted millions of california and you have these wildfires on top of that and these blackouts and these two things cannot continue and this cant be the new normal and well hold them to account and have them come out of bankruptcy and its decades of mismanagement, focusing on shareholders and Public Safety they got us here. Years and years of disinvestment into undergrounding the utility, hardening their polls and transmission lines and segmenting their system with microgrids and making it more modern, and more resilient. Theyll come out of this process completely reimagined utility and focusing on Public Safety and focusing on grounding and advancing the low carbon, green growth go

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