Him. Hello there, everyone. Im john berman. And im michaela pereira. Were learning more about the shoe bombing threat. The bombmaker is believed to be making on a bomb that would pass airline screening. Homeland security has asked people to watch for attempts to hide bombs in shoes. And in West Virginia, people are wondering if their water is safe to drink. Experts are wondering just how dangerous the chemical in their water is. No one seems to know right now. Whats happening at this point is being called unprecedented. Were expecting storms along the eastern seaboard. We just got word that d. C. Is under a tornado watch until 5 00 this afternoon. A breakthrough in the ukrainian protest. The president and opposition leaders have agreed to a deal. That includes less power for the president and constitutional reform. Now, in return, protesters Must Withdraw from the streets and turn in any weapons within 24 hours. In sochi, team usa is taking on mens hockey. This is a semifinal with bragging rights on the line with an unbelievable win from canada yesterday. Were not talking about bragging rights on our desk but in north america. We have something to tell you. Blur your eyes. Were talking mens curling. Canada went up against Great Britain for the gold. And the winner is john, can you say it . It is, in fact, canada. Sorry, queen elizabeth, Great Britain did not win. Canada is just killing it right now. Lets look at the medal board as it stands. There is the United States and america that lead with 25 medals. Eight of them gold, then russia with 23, canada and the netherlands are tied with 22, then norway and germany. We have to talk about the big story out of the olympics at this hour. Figure skating fans, even some competitors, are saying something stinks in sochi, mainly the judges. Russias Adelina Sotnikova was the winner of the gold. Many wonder if she benefited from home cooking. One judge was banned from judging for a year. He was busted for trying to fix an ice dancing competition in japan. Another judge is married to a russian figure skating official. I honestly dont think thats the biggest problem with the judging. I think its all a mess. Andy is joining us to talk about this. Think about this, a guy who was busted for cheated is allowed to judge this years skating competition. So many people are outraged about this that change. Org, the website where you can talk about things, they are trying to get if changed. Yuna kim, the defending Gold Medalist should have gotten gold and she got silver. The ukrainian judge caught for cheating, he was not the only controversy. The russian judge is married to the head of the russian skating federation. So its these questionable things allowed to happen. One of the american skaters said, i didnt fall, i had a flawless routine. She, the one who won the gold, stumbled. The russian skater fell twice. Ashley wagner fell not once and got seventh. The judges are anonymous. We get two scores lumped together. We dont know who scored what and Ashley Wagner has said this has got to stop. Weve got to get rid of the anonymous judging. The judging changed in 2002 after the blowup in salt lake city. They made the judging anonymous and then they started scoring each individual move in a different way, giving it points. What people are saying is that Adelina Sotnikova had a more complicated routine. Some people are saying it was just athleticism. The sport is losing popularity in droves now. In the ioc, they are trying to hide behind what are they saying . Nothing is wrong. Were not going to do anything about this unless a formal complaint is made. As of now, a formal complaint has not been made. Kostner got third for italy. Its a reality when we think about it. We know that they see numbers dwindling in terms of the fans are tried and true. Are we getting more fans and does it compromise the future of the sport . Thats exactly what Ashley Wagner was saying. Were losing fans because of this judging. We need to hold these people accountable or were going to start losing fans because people will think its rigged from the beginning. Doesnt the olympics risk losing fans because of this, too . Anything that is subjective, there is no finish line, theres no time. Especially when you have so many judges with a questionable path. Theyve got to clean up their act right now. Its not just me. Andy scholes, appreciate it. Under armours ceo is defending the spe defending speed skating outfits. Many were saying that it slowed them down. The costume change hasnt really helped. It has been goose eggs for u. S. Speed skaters in sochi. Ceo kevin plank is coming out swinging saying that his company was the victim of a witch hunt. There are no hard feelings, however. Why . Well, under armour has signed on to suit up team usa for the next eight years. Im curious what the athletes have to say. 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Why does your organization feel that its necessary . Sure. Thanks. The arizona bill has a very simple premise that americans should be free to live and work according to their religious faith. Arizona has had an act on our books since 1999, just like the federal government and many, many states. The arizona law senate bill 1062 simply updates and clarifies that law to ensure that people can use their restoration act rights whether or not the government is involved in the lawsuit. Cathi, in the effort to qualify, its muddied things. People could could say, would it not have the effect of allowing restaurants to deny serving gay Patrons Service or it could go against allowing anyone service, africanamericans, women, pregnant people . What do you say to that . Not at all. The fearmongering, irresponsible accusations being made on senate bill 1062, really, if they were going to happen, they would have been happening for the last since 1999, since the mid90s when the federal government passed religious freedom restoration act. The arizona bill simply makes one clarifying change to what has already been law. It also cot ifiess the test. Its about religious for freedom and nothing else. Do you think the accusations against this bill are irresponsible or do you think theres a real problem here . Of course theres a real problem here. If the bill werent doing anything, it wouldnt have a need to update it. Its going to fling open discrimination not just to gay people but a woman who is pregnant out of wedlock, you dont get served in my business. We have public accommodation claws in this country. If you dont want to serve the business, dont open a business. The First Amendment guarantees that. When you open a business, youre saying, i want to serve the public. If you dont want to serve the public, dont go into that line of work. Cathi, who gets to choose which religious beliefs are valid here . Whats to stop someone banning a religion based on who wear as blue dress . Where is the line . They have not happened under existing they havent happened. In arizona, since 1999, weve had one case and it was ruled against the individual who was using his religious justification to smoke marijuana. There was a threeprong test to determine what would be a religious belief in air zone that that would uphold under our state law. Weve taken that test and put it into the law. So there are incredible safeguards in the law to protect individuals and, again, this goes back to under our First Amendment foundational principle of our country is that americans should be free to live and work according to their religious faith. Cathi, you can understand that there will be people who say in order to protect one groups freedom, we step on another groups freedom. That doesnt seem american. I suggest you read the bill for yourself. Read the bill, the explanation and youll see that this is simply protecting people of faith and to oppose this bill really is showing incredible hostility to religious beliefs. If i could just make this point here. Religious freedom is a shield to protect your own rights. Its not a sword to lash out at others. Legislation like this does. It take as very noble concept, religious freedom, and turn it is into a tool of oppression of other people and thats simply not right. Thats an antiamerican value and i think bills like this are the dying last gast from people who cannot accept the fact that American Society is changing. You look at the polls and you must be horrified when youre on the religious right to see the acceptance of samesex marriages increasing and to realize that and instead react to take a noble concept, religious freedom, and turn it into a club to beat other people. If the Court Strikes down these laws, they will die because its not what people want anymore. We are not a nation of bigots. Cathi, i want you to clarify one ink this. You say the interpretation of this law is wrong. Would a restaurant be able to ban a gay couple under this law and do you think they should be able to . This doesnt change what has been happening that is not my question. Okay. What this law does is protect individuals, businesses, protects americans to be free to live out their religious faith in their work. It means that the government cannot compel a business or individual the answer is yes . Is that a yes . Her answer is yes. Ill answer it for her because shes afraid to say it. She would be able to discriminate fundamentally american, fundamentally wrong. Read the bill. Cathi, it just let us understand the law. Would a business if it was within their religious beliefs, if they say its within their religious beliefs, would that restaurant be able to ban a gay couple . That has not happened under the many years that weve had this religious freedom act. Theres no case in this country where weve had that scenario happen. But now that they pass the law, they would be able to do it. You know, read the bill. Shes afraid to answer the question. They will be able to discriminate. And its a shame. And its fundamentally antiamerican. Cathi, one last word here . The opponents are showing unbelievable hostility for religious beliefs. It matters in this country and we have the right to freely exercise our religious beliefs. Religious beliefs matter in this country and also do individual freedoms to live their lives. Thats what a lot of people are grappling with. Cathi, thank you for joining us to share your side. Robert, thank you. Its another thing that we were discussing, matters of faith are so subjective and intensely personal and its a hard conversation for us to be having. You hope this doesnt devolve into hate mongering. The bill is on jan brewers desk. 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Whats your policy . Welcome back. At this hour, a noose tied around a statue at ole miss is being investigated as a possible hate crime. The fbi is searching for vandals who desecrated the statue of James Meredith who was the first black student to attend the university of mississippi. Two men were seen at the statue Early Saturday Morning and then heard them screaming racial slurs and then spotted the noose. About 150 ole miss students gathered around to protest the vandalism. The Alumni Association is offering a reward to lead information to the arrest in the case. Joining us from sacramento, california, director of the civil rights memorial center. Good to have you with us this morning to talk about this. You know, i think a lot of people are saying, well, clearly still more work needs to be done. I think we often think that young people are doing better than our generation and past generations have done with race. Maybe not the case . Well, thank you so much for having me on, john and michaela. I appreciate it. No, its not the case. We still have a long, long way to go. I think this despicable act is one in a long list of offensive events that have happened across College Campuses across the country. I do applaud the university of mississippi for immediately reputating this act and the fra tu turn teas have spoken out about this act. We have more work to do. James meredith, the statue, a hero of the civil rights movement, says we are not training our children like the bible says. They just do not know right from wrong. So how do we train them . Well, i think that first and foremost we need to educate young people about civil rights history. I mean, its obvious to me that the vandals do not at all understand what it meant for James Meredith to integrate ole miss in 1962. And so when they attacked and desecrated the statue, probably thinking that it was a funny thing to do, have no appreciation for our nations history. So first and foremost, i think that we feed to educate about civil rights history. I think also schools should for firstyear students and colleges and universities should do all they can to teach culture competency, because colleges its the first time for lots of folks that they are living in integrated settings. And i dont think that theres enough done to help students live in diverse in a diverse setting. And we should point out, we dont know if the suspects were students, if they were young, if they were thats correct. We dont know that at this point. We made the assumption that this happened on a university property. Thats correct. I hear you and a i think a lot of people hear you. How do we get it to not just feel like a History Lesson and a lecture. How do we make it so that there is understanding, that its not just a black History Month conversation, that it is something that people understand equality and respect for one another is a part of American Life . Well, thats interesting that you would say that michaela. Im speaking to students at Solano Community college about black History Month and this months theme is civil rights in america. Ive done presentations across the country and in europe. I know when i present the stories, the real stories of real people who made sacrifices to make this country a better place, i know that that is wellreceived by young people. So i think that its something in the way that we tell the stories, how we integrate it into american history, and make it clear that this is everyones history. And everyone can feel good about it and feel proud about how far the country has come. Its its always the case that young people are appalled to kind of to hear about, kind of in plain language, what happene