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CNNW Wolf April 1, 2014

In all, nine ships, ten military planes and a civilian jet took part in todays search. And a malaysian government source tells cnn, the jetliners turning off the course is being considered a criminal act. Either by one of the pilots or someone else on board. So for weeks, we were told the last words from the crew were, quote, all right, good night. Now weve learned the words were actually, quote, good night malaysian 370. The release of the transcript is raising many questions, and its also providing a few answers. Lets bring in our aviation and government regulation correspondent, rene marsh. Walk us through some of the details weve learned from this transcript, which has just been released. Right. You know what, wolf, we have learned that communications between the cockpit and air Traffic Control was pretty normal up until it disappeared. So this is the transcript here. Just a little bit over two pages long. And were going to pull from it. We know that at 12 40, according to this transcript here, the tower instructs 370, it is clear for takeoff from runway 32l, then says good night. Then the cockpit repeats the runway, 32r, cleared for takeoff, mass 370. Thank you, bye. Then in the minutes that follow, nothing out of the ordinary. At 1 19 a. M. , the last time anyone would hear from the plane, as it was leaving Malaysian Air space, heading to Vietnamese Air space, the tower says, malaysia, 370, contact ho chi minh 120. 9, good night. And then someone in the cockpit says good night, malaysian 370. The only thing that was missing, the pilot didnt repeat the frequency and the air Traffic Control center in vietnam. They were heading to. Not major. But it does raise some questions. Was that an omission made to alert someone something was wrong . As one former 777 pilot brought up, is a possibility. Or were they just being sloppy . Its really hard to say without hearing the tapes to listen for stress in the voice, hear any other background noises that may have been telling. But what we can tell you, wolf, this transcript alone doesnt tell us much, other than the communications between the cockpit and the ground, pretty routine. What about the question of whether it was the pilot or the co pilot who was doing the talking . What do investigators think . Because in the transcript, it doesnt say who was it actually communicating with ground control. Right. And at this point, it is unclear to us whether it was a co pilot or the pilot. We know in Previous Press conferences, they said it was the co pilot. Now, they seem to be backing off that a bit. So right now, it is really unclear. But we can tell you this. Usually, if the captain is flying, its the co pilot that does the radio transmission, and vice versa, wolf. It all sounds pretty routine. Ive read the transcript. They havent released the actual audiotape. They have just released the transcript. Is there anything specific investigators are focusing on . Well, they will likely be listening to the voices. Thats what we really want to hear, is the recordings. Was it the same voice on the ground versus the voice heard once the plane was in the air . Do they hear any stress in the voice . Are there any other telling sounds in the background that may indicate something was going wrong . Was it indeed the pilot or was it the co pilot who was speaking . Those are all things they still need to get to the bottom of, if they havent already, wolf. Are they explaining why theyre not releasing that audiotape . Well, you know, wolf, they keep on with the same line, which is this investigation is a private investigation. They did release this transcript to the Family Members. Not holding my breath right now that we, meaning the media, will get ahold of those audiotapes, though. Rene marsh, thanks very much. What is does the release of the transcript say about the investigation into the planes disappearance . Lets bring in our panel of experts, joining us, mark weise, cnn aviation analyst, former 777 pilot for american airlines. Peter goelz is a cnn aviation analyst and former ntsb managing director. Tom fuentes is our cnn Law Enforcement analyst, former assistant director of the fbi. Mark, does anything jump out at you . You have read this transcript. Youre a seasoned pilot. What does it say to you, if anything . Well, as rene was saying, what really does stand out to me, and whether its consequential or inconsequential at this point, were really not sure. But that last transmission, where he just said he did not repeat the next sector he was talking to, which was ho chi minh center, and he did not repeat the frequency. Thats standard operating procedure. Whether he just was a little lax or sloppy at that, whether he was talking under duress or whether it was not one of the pilots, thats what we dont know. It would be if you were investigating, you would actually peter, want to hear the voices and see if there is any ambient sound, anything along those lines, wouldnt you . Absolutely. You want to hear whether, you know, there were any clicks or whether the seats were moving, whether you could hear the other pilot. Or whether you could hear whether the door to the main cabin was open. Were you picking up any sounds from first class . Certainly, you would want to analyze the original tape as closely as possible. So why wont they release that . You have worked with the malaysians, worked with interpoll, you have worked at the fbi. Whats the down side from their perspective or releasing the conversation between the cockpit and air Traffic Controllers . I think part of it is its not strictly a police matter. Its in the hands of the aviation authorities and the defense ministry, and that makes it much different in this situation. But youre right. Clearing up the mystery of which person is speaking is fairly easy. Its a small airline. The air Traffic Controllers, Airline Management and other pilots would certainly recognize the voices of these pilots and be able to distinguish one from another or hear if there was particular stress or something unusual. If it was the co pilot, there might be a little extra stress, because hes doing his first ride as, you know, basically coming out of the training program. Hes trying to probably impress the captain, who is, you know, renowned in the airline. So, you know, if hes stressful, it would be understandable. He at the end of the transcript, the last words, mark, good night malaysian 370, at 1 19 29, what, two minutes after that, either by coincidence or deliberately, all of a sudden the plane makes a sharp left turn. That sounds as it was leaving Malaysian Air space, about to enter Vietnamese Air space, makes a sharp turn like that, unexpected. How do you explain that, other than what theres a lot of suspicion of something sinister going on . Well, you know, again, with keeping everything on the table, you know, whether there was some type of mechanical or catastrophic event in the cockpit that forced that aircraft off course, to change heading, to apparently want to go to the nearest land at the nearest suitable airport. But there was no distress call. The acars was off. The transponders were off. That still leads me to believe that was human intervention. Again, because the waypoints, the points, the flight path for that aircraft was put in and agreed to on the ground and in the flight management system. That was human intervention. And the suspicion has been, as you know, peter, in this no mans land before they enter Vietnamese Air Traffic Controllers after they leave Malaysian Air Traffic Controllers, if youre going to do something, that might be the time to do it. Sure. Sloppiness at the ho chi minh center. Although ho chi minh did radio another malaysian plane 10 or 12 minutes after the last transmission and say, hey, have you heard from malaysian 370. And said, well, i reached them, but there was a little garble, i couldnt understand. Im interested in that transmission very much so. Because that was ten minutes after. Youre agreeing. Absolutely. Because, you know, this plane has been turned over to ho chi minh air Traffic Control. And the controllers at kl would have radioed ahead or called on the phone. Kuala lumpur, kl. Text messages, saying this plane is leaving our air space, coming into your air space. When it doesnt come, they try to check with another airline from the same company, from Malaysian Airlines, saying, you know, can you raise your pilot. They try, they hear something garbled. At that point, you have kuala lumpur officials and ho chi minh officials saying, neither of us have any idea what happened to this airplane. We have lost coverage. Weve lost the signal. Were not in radio contact. You would think at that point all the bells and whistles go off. Yeah. In the whole seems to be a lot of incompetence on that part of the investigation. We dont know. We dont know what happened. But theyve got a lot more information they should be releasing. All right. Well have you back. We have viewers questions, as well. A lot of good questions coming in. Well get back to the search for flight 370 in a few moments. First, theres a developing story out of brussels happening right now. Nato is taking an extraordinary step cutting off all practical cooperation with russia. Thats both civilian and military alliances. Its in response to russias actions in ukraine and the deployment of Russian Troops near the border. Lets go to our pentagon correspondent, barbara starr. Barbara, the u. S. And European Union had already cut off some ties with russia. But this seems to be a powerful, much more dramatic step. Reporter wolf, this is the 28member nations of nato, including the United States, taking that step, fundamentally sending a message like you have not seen to moscow, since the fall of the soviet union. Ending all practical cooperation with the russians today. There will be some ambassadorial level talks. But that will be it. And they are doing this because of the ukraine situation and natos belief, along with the u. S. , there are still 40,000 Russian Troops on ukraines eastern border. What will all of this mean . Look, some of it may be symbolic. But it also sends a very clear message. Russia and nato, along with the u. S. , cooperate in Nuclear Ballistic missile testing by the russians. Thats going to be an issue. That notification, that very precise cooperation, has to continue. Russian bombers often fly over Northern Europe and along the alaska coastline. Thats going to be an issue. Its going to have to continue. Nato supplies. In and out of afghanistan. Often transit through russian territory air space and land. That is going to be an issue. U. S. Helicopters sails of Russian Helicopters to the afghan army. So undoing these ties is very significant. And what nato is really doing along with the u. S. Today is saying we stand with eastern europe. There are also a number of moves to shore up the east european allies. Believe it or not, we are talking about trying to provide military support to countries like poland, the baltics, romania, all the countries that broke away from the Old Soviet Union in the face of this crisis, looking to nato, looking to washington for more help. Wolf . What about something practical, like u. S. Russian cooperation in the elimination, the destruction of syrias chemical weapons . There was extensive cooperation. How does that fit into this . Reporter i think thats a great question. Because, of course, for the u. S. , the cooperation with russia on the tess trucks of syrias chemical weapons, the cooperation on trying to get russia to get assad out of power, the russian cooperation on to try and get iran to give up its nuclear program. You know, this these are the fundamental issues at stake, where the u. S. And moscow, everyone, will tell you, still really need to cooperate. But unless they can get some resolution on the ukraine situation, which is fundamentally getting Vladimir Putin to agree to pull back and assure the world once and for all he has no designs to have his forces march into ukraine, until they can do that, many officials will tell you, they just cant make progress on the other. And wolf, i think its really fair to say, this situation really right now rewrites the map of europe and the relationship with moscow and the east european allies in a way that it has not since the fall of the soviet union. Were going to check with nasa to see how this impacts u. S. Russian cooperation with space because astronauts have been relying on the russians to get them there, get them back in the aftermath of the cancellation of the u. S. Space shuttle. Thanks very much. A very important story developing out of nato. Well continue to monitor that. Just ahead, the best hope of finding flight 370 may rest with this australian ship, if it can get to the search area in time. Well have a live report from perth, australia. Thats coming up. And later, the Health Care Deadline has now come and gone. Did the white house yoef come computer problems to log a win . Were taking a closer look. You have time to shop for Car Insurance today . Yeah. I heard about progressives name your price tool . I guess you can tell them how much you want to pay and it gives you a range of options to choose from. Huh . Im looking at it right now. Oh, yeah . Yeah. Whats the. Guest room situation . The name your price tool, making the world a little more progressive. agent i understand. dad weve never sold a house before. agent ill walk you guys through every step. dad so if we sell, do you think we can swing it . agent i have the numbers right here and based on the comps that ive found, the timing is perfect. Theres a lot of buyers for a house like yours. dad thats good to know. mom im so excited. Hightech equipment from the United States will soon be in position to hunt for the data recorder from flight 370. But only days remain before the battery s inside the socalled black box run out of power and its audible beacon falls silent. The man coordinating the search efforts in australia sounded this very sobering note. Of i have to say, in my experience, and i have got a lot of experience in search and rescue over the years, this search and recovery operation is probably the most challenging one i have ever seen. Our paula newton is in perth, australia, watching the story unfold. This is a very daunting search in every possible way, paula. How soon before the ship, the ocean shield will arrive in that search area to get that pinger locater down there and see what happens . Reporter it should be there by thursday, wolf. But heres the thing. In speaking to the commander there, u. S. Navy captain mark matthews, he is saying, look, even when theyre prepositioned there, they really cant use that equipment, wolf. The search zone has to be reduced to something about 1,000 times size smaller than the size it is right now. I mean, think about that. They still havent gotten to those modeling areas, the satellite imagery, any kind of discounting of the area theyre already looking at. Theyre not there yet, to be able to reduce the size. In fact, he told me the ocean shield would do what every other ship is doing, looking for debris. In the meantime, the hope is within the next 48 to 72 hours when the ocean shield is on the scene, theyll be able to reduce it somewhat so they can get that equipment out there looking for the black boxes. Wolf . As you know, paula, the search for flight 370 could be modified, even curtailed, if no debris in the coming days is found. Heres what the man coordinating the search efforts in australia said. But inevitably, i think if we dont find wreckage on the surface, we are eventually going to have to probably in consultation with everybody who has a stake in this, review what we do next. So paula, its been almost, what, 26 days, still nothing. Do you have a sense how much longer they will keep looking, what theyll do, if, in the coming few days they find nothing . Reporter well, when i was speaking to chief houston earlier today, wolf, were not talking about days so much as we are weeks and months. And what he is saying is, this kind of tasking of ships, of airplanes, cant go on indefinitely. It will just be fruitless. They might have to try another strategy. And you might see the intensity coming down a notch. He was clearly, though, wolf, preparing the families for the fact that theyre going to give this a good shot over the next few weeks, perhaps months. But then after that, theyre really going to take a have to take a good, hard look at the evidence that theyve gathered so far and what they do next to try and find that plane. Paula newton, reporting from perth, australia. Thank you. Well have much more coverage of the mystery of flight 370. Thats coming up. Also, open enrollment is over. So did the white house reach the target goal on health care . Were taking a closer look at how it ended and if the president has something to crow about. 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