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CNNW Wolf December 12, 2014

Failure. The n. A. T. S. Put out a tweet saying they are having trouble with the control system. Its likely what helps the planes line up and take off. Its a very, very congested region. There are flights, of course, that would fly over london going to north america, going into europe, into south africa as well. So it has caused major chaos. Many, many flights are being canceled and its not just if you are flying into london. Other flights are being diverted to places like amsterdam and north of england and flights are being canceled from airports far and wide. British airways say they will refund. Anybody who doesnt wish to fly and heathrow is saying the cancellations will continue into tomorrow. Were talking about a very, very crowded air space and there will be a lot of chaos for hours and probably days to come. When they say its some sort of computer program, was somebody trying to hack into it . Was it just a glitch or some sort of automatic computer problem . Are they releasing any details . Well, first they said there was a power outage and now they are saying that that is not correct. We were hearing Power Outages and then we heard computer glitch. There will be deep investigations into whether there could be a hack and the airlines have said this is totally unacceptable because we have seen this system go down before. We saw it in december of last year and weve seen it in past years. The uk government has said this is also unacceptable that this system could go down and cause such chaos. Certainly they will be investigating whether it could possibly be a hack. Right now they are saying not a power outage, a computer failure. Thanks very much, jim boulden reporting for us from london. Lets bring in our safety analyst david sousie. Everybo soucy. Youve heard that this has happened before. Whats your analysis . Could it happen again . Could it happen here in the United States . Well, yeah, actually it could and it has. If you think back to just chicago a few short months ago when there was a fire down in the lower section of the control center, this is the concern, is that if there is a single point of failure and its supposed to be designed not to do that, if theres a single point of failure because everything is integrated, that single point of failure has impacts that are farreaching, as you mentioned before. Its going to reach far and wide and could be months before this gets back to normal. And the investigation, i assume, only just beginning. They say it wasnt a power outage, although that was the initial suspicion. What other problems could generate this kind of air traffic problem crisis, lets call it . Well, the part of the software that failed, as i understand it, is the scheduling part of the software. What that does is tell all of the controllers throughout the whole network, through the n. A. T. S. , throughout the National Transportation system, what happens, what is going to happen next. This is the software that tells the controllers to put that airplane into the holding pattern. Without that, its left entirely up to the controllers to maintain separation, to understand at what point the plane has to land, how fast the airplane is going. All of those things are considered by this software. When it shuts down, its a huge burden on the air Traffic Controllers and i pat them on the back for getting this up and running without the software. We obviously dont know what the cause of this problem was but, in general and we dont know if it has anything to do with hacking, how vulnerable are these systems to hacking . They are really not vulnerable at all to hacking. I shouldnt say at all because theres always a hacker that is going to try to do it himself but so far there have been no actual hacking successes. Theres been a lot of attempts, probably, that i dont know of. But theres been a lot of attempts but not any actually through the firewall to take control of any fire in any i wa. This is the first time i dont think thats what happened here. I think the power glitched at first and it may have happened and triggered this Software Failure because there is, as i mentioned, a single point of failure with that particular software. Is there builtin redundancy so if there is a problem, it can automatically be repaired because other systems go to work . There is, wolf. The challenge here is that were working with an infrastructure designed in the 50s and 60s still. Theres experts in the United States and in the uk and over in europe to upgrade the infrastructure. Thats been delayed mostly because the United States has sequestered the funding for nexgen which has delayed it for years. So there is redundancy built into the system but its kind of like putting bandaids on it and continuing to repair all of their systems rather than start with a new infrastructure. Has air traffic around the world, air travel become so overburdened that even a relatively minor glitch could cause enormous headaches for travelers, not only in the london area but around the world . Yeah, it certainly can, wolf. Theres more to it than that. The way i describe this system is as a sand pile and youre continuing to add safety fixes to this overburdened system and eventually the sand pile has to avalanche down and normalize itself and so every time you add a safety feature, because everything is so integrated and so large that they all rely on each other. When that gets overburdened too far, you can have an avalanche of failures and i dont see that happening right now but without the furthering of the nexgen system, we can be looking at that avalanche within the next year or so. David sousie, thank you for joining us. Up next, president obama is weighing in on sports and critically important social issues. Were going to hear what he has to say about, quote, the american team. And later, Michele Bachmann is wrapping up her time in the United States congress. Shes going to be my guest. Well talk about government, responsibility spending and her own future. The always outspoken Michele Bachmann here for an exit interview. Thats coming up later this hour. I have the worst cold with this runny nose. I better take something. Dayquill cold and flu doesnt treat your runny nose. Seriously . Alkaseltzer plus cold and cough fights your worst cold symptoms plus your runny nose. Oh, what a relief it is. Just in time for the holidays. Tmobile introduces americas only unlimited 4g lte family plan. Get two lines of unlimited 4g lte data for just 100 bucks a month. With any smart phone. Including the Samsung Galaxy note 4, for 0 down. 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Weve seen the president at several different venues, b. E. T. , telemundo, the colbert report. Whats going on . Clearly in this interview he was making an appeal for cooperation, bipartisanship in washington. Reporter right, wolf. Its amazing that hes saying were all in the same team after the government almost shut down last night. They want to go where the viewers are, the listeners are. The president put in a pitch for healthcare. Gov. Open enrollment is going on right now. The president talked about that and other sportsrelated politics. He says he doesnt watch politics. He watches sports center. He decompresses. He was on telemundo and talking about his action plan and i was asking a white house official, are you guys just going around us and sort of going to nontraditional Media Outlets . They said, no, weve been doing a lot with you guys lately but they go beyond us from time to time and thats what they have been doing this week. He also spoke about the intersection of professional sports and critically important social issues that have been in the news lately and in particularly the case of a football player, ray rice, who was suspended after hitting his then fiancee, now his wife. Listen to this. Im so glad that we got more awareness about domestic violence. Obviously the situation that happened in the rice family was unfortunate but lifted up awareness that this is a real problem that we have to root out and men have to change their attitudes and their behavior and it has to start young. But the way it was handled also indicates that the nfl was behind the curb and sending a clear message. Yeah. He clearly wants to make that point, that obviously has to be made. The nfl has to learn from what happened in this particular case. He is an extraordinary sports fan, right . Reporter he is. And wolf, right when the nfl commissioner Roger Goodell is on the hot seat and people are talking about him being thrown out, i thought it was striking to say that the nfl was behind the curve, winging it, referring to it as a good old boys club. He doesnt like the way that the nfl handled that ray rice matter and it was clear in that interview and went on to say that he thinks the Chicago Bulls will do pretty well in the nba this season. He somehow overlooked the fact that our washington wizards, wolf, are going to win the finals. I think he made a mistake there. He obviously did. Well see what happens game by game. Jim acosta, a Good Washington wizards fan as am i. The house approves a massive spending bill and narrowly avoids a shutdown. Why Tea Party Conservatives and liberal democrats oppose the bill and what happens next. [ man ] i remember when i wouldnt give a little cut a second thought. When i didnt worry about the hepatitis c in my blood. 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Whats going to happen in the senate . Well, the expectation at this point is that it will pass but its probably going to be close and we dont know when its going to happen. The latest message i got from somebody in democratic leadership is probably today but the definition of today could mean before we go to sleep, which could mean before the sun comes up tomorrow morning because they have to decide when they are going to do it and one of the most fascinating dynamics is over the past couple of years weve been waiting to see if things are going to get passed or not mostly because of republican opposition. This is coming from some republicans but mostly the most outspoken Elizabeth Warren had not answered the question from me and others about whether she was so opposed to this that she would use all of her powers and she has a lot to stop this. Its interesting, gloria. You have Tea Party Conservatives on the republican side, very liberal democrats who are opposed for Different Reasons and you add them together and they potentially they didnt succeed in the house of representatives to block it but potentially they could succeed in the senate where there are different rules where you might need 50 votes, lets say. Elizabeth warren opposes the repeal of these wall street reforms that she supports and conservatives, of course, say wait a minute, we didnt stop obama from funding his immigration plan. So, you know, they come at it from different ways but on a larger point, wolf, what this proves is the democrats are not afraid of obama. These conservative republicans are not afraid of their leadership. Theres no price to pay anymore. If they cross them. So why not do it . When you think about it dana, the democratic leader in the house, nancy pelosi, chris van hollen, another leader, despite the personal lobbying by the president , despite dennis mcdonough, the white house chief of staff appealing to all of the democrats to appeal this legislation, they didnt like it. They didnt like it and they were incredibly vocal and it was something that we dont see a lot. We are sort of the story line, as i said the past couple of years, has been in the republican ranks, Republican Leaders not being able to keep their rank and file in check. Now its a little bit of a different dynamic but the same kind of issue that youre seeing on the left. And i think what this is telling us is that, in this case, it certainly was a big bill, over 1600 pages. Members, understandably, feel that its their job to understand it and read what is in it. At the end of the day, what they tried to do was legislate and govern and theyve been working for months to actually fund the government for an entire year, set their priorities. And there just is a lot more power in both wings of the party. And as gloria said, not a lot of repercussions to for buck the party for lots of reasons. Its a different kind of situation here and it does make legislating a lot harder. Its not every day you hear nancy pelosi saying to the president of the United States not that legislating has been easy. You are wrong, you are wrong. Exactly. Gloria, youve been a lot of reporting on mitt romney over the years. All of us have. Now theres a major story out there in politico suggesting maybe hes not that 100 definite with the no, no, no, he could seek the third time to run for the republican president ial nomination. Maybe hes leaving that door open a little bit. Heres my reporting on this, wolf. Theres never any harm in leaving the door open. It doesnt hurt you in any way, shape or form. I think there are some folks close to mitt romney who, of course, would like him to run again. But i think the only way, the only way and i think this is a very slim possibility youd see a mitt romney candidacy is if hes the white knight. And if for some reason, all of the other candidates look smaller and smaller and smaller, we went through this the last time around, is Chris Christie going to be the white knight for the republican party, that perhaps romney would come in very, very late in the game. There are some funders who want him to go in, some former staff want him to go in. They still love him but i think the likelihood is still small unless he comes in as someone who can save the party at the very end. I dont see him going through the entire process again. It will be an intriguing game to watch to see what he decides. Yep. Were waiting to see if jeb bush is going to get in, too. 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