That doesnt satisfy me. I think we should have been much tougher and should not have allowed that part of the discourse to enter into an agreement on Nuclear Weapons with iran. Based on what you know right now and youre a good head counter in the house of representatives assuming almost all of the republicans in the house, and thats the majority vote against it the president vetoes that you need a twothirds majority to override a veto, do you think the president will have enough democrats to back him to keep this deal alive . Its too early to say. This is why i fought so hard with others to have this 60day review period so we could take the time necessary to make a judgment on the deal and not based on the politics of whether there would be a veto or not. My sense is based on my conversations with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, it will be very close in both the house and the senate. Both on approving or disapproving the deal then a veto. The president needs 145 votes to sustain a veto in the house. He needs 34 votes to sustain a veto in the senate. I believe in both chambers is itt will come right on the cus. And the white house is not assuming they have the votes. They believe it will be close, thats why were seeing this activity on the part of the president , the Vice President , his Top National Security advisors theyll spend the next 60 days working to make sure they have the votes to keep the deal alive. Congressman, thanks very much for joining us. Thank you, wolf. The iran deal will be a tough sell for president obama. Joining us to discuss whats going on as we await the president of the United States, chief political analyst Gloria Borger chief Congressional Correspondent dana bash Global Affairs correspondent elise labott and Fareed Zakaria, host of Fareed Zakaria gps. The stakes are enormous and from what im told by Administration Officials they dont assume they have enough votes to get this deal through even if the president vetoes it and they need a twothirds override. Theyre working hard to make sure they have the votes. I dont think they can assume anything at this point and theyre start to understand that theyve got a theyve got to make their case. Thats why the president is coming out today to speak to the American Public because very often a president will make his case on the bully pulpit talk to the American Voters directly try to go around the congress to a certain degree. One thing i want to point out here about president obama is that hes been nothing if not consistent on this issue. We all recall from the 2008 campaign when president obama talked about direct engagement with our enemies, remember that . And Hillary Clinton, who was running against him in with 2008 chastised him and said you cant do it, youre naive. Not to mention john mccain. Not to mention john mccain. But Hillary Clinton is now running for president and this has been a point of view that the president has had forever. And i think nobody should be surprised he tried to get this done as part of his legacy and i think members of congress are going to have to confront right now is whether this president is farsighted as he believes he is or whether hes shortsighted adds many people like steve israel believe he is. Fareed the israelis Prime Minister benjamin netanyahu, make nothing secret they hate this deal. It goes across the board in israel not just the ruling likud party but the opposition as well. But theres opposition from sunni arab states, whether its the saudis, the emirates how big a problem will it be for selling this deal . I dont think as big as the United States congress. For a number of those countries, iran has been a strategic foe for decades. For them that not true for israel but certainly the gulf arabs, for them the nuclear deal and the sanctions relating to the concern about Nuclear Weapons was a way to contain iran almost permanently, but, of course russia and china and even the europeans signed up for a permanent containment and sanctions policy against iran. They put those sanctions in place specifically to bring iran to the negotiating table to try to get it to make the concessions that largely it has made. So the saudis would have like to see iran deprived of its oil revenues in perpetuity. Thats not likely to happen which is to say that that rivalry between the gulf arabs and iran between the saudis and iran will continue and is now in some ways more visible because iran will have access to more resources. Do you think, fareed this is going to spur some of those very wealthy oilrich arab countries to start moving towards developing some sort of Nuclear Capability themselves . I think thats exaggerated. My own view that first of all they are well aware that the United States is going to provide them with security guarantees thats a much cheaper way for them to get them. Just as when north korea went nuclear people predicted south korea would go nuclear, japan would go nuclear and both of them realized the u. S. Was providing a security umbrella. Theres also the reality, saudi arabia can buy Nuclear Technology from pakistan from france but if it were to have to develop Nuclear Weapons, that means having an underground indigenous capacity i have seen nothing in saudi arabias scientific and Industrial Base that would suggest they could run a secret totally Indigenous Program hidden from the public eye. They can buy stuff, they can make very little. Elise, theres a lot of concern by critics and you hear this all the time that iran is about to get a windfall of about 150 billion in the frozen asset once those are lifted. Thats iranian money frozen all of these years, but theyll get a windfall of 150 billion and then an additional in billions of oil revenues once that oil embargo goes away. Theyll spend that money not necessarily on education or health care or infrastructure but give it to various socalled terrorist groups. Thats a serious concern out there. Its a serious concern of the critics of the deal and why you see so much opposition on the hill to the arms embargo. Its pretty much not about the Nuclear Issue. That arms embargo was put in place because of the Nuclear Issue. Its larger things. If you look at the latest state Department Terrorism report iran is the biggest state sponsor of terrorism supporting Bashar Al Assad in syria, hezbollah, hamas, and the concern is that theyll spend this money on the other activity. However, the president the making a big gamble that the Ayatollah Khamenei and the leadership of Hassan Rouhani who was elected to improve the economy and get these sanss lifted is going to spend this money on their people going to sol identify the revolution. Its a big gamble. He may keep this regime in check for the next several years but when the deal is over are we going to have a fundamentally different regime or will they continue their terrorist activities. Dana youre covering these republicans, a lot of republicans, 15 formally declared republican president ial candidates more on the way, john kasich as early as next week, the governor of ohio will jump into this president ial race. I take it all of them including rand paul, have come out firmly against this Iran Nuclear Deal . Is that right . They have. All the republican candidates are against it, thats one of the few uniting events in the very vast and very different aruba fields. To republican fields. What youre hearing on the Republican Campaign trail is not different than what youre hearing on capitol hill. We knew other the months and months years of these talks about the broad parameters having to do with sanctions versus inspections but this arms embargo, the lifting of the arms embargo as you said to the congressman, five for conventional eight for ballistic. That is im told inside a meeting that joe biden had with Congressional Democrats a huge point of contention for what elise was talking about, the very real concern that iran, which is shiite and has been known to give arms to hezbollah and hamas, those who threaten israel will do that in a much more robust way and that the United States and its allies wont stop it. Its a lastminute move it seems that even some of the president s closest allies on this are saying it was very bad. The administration keeps talking about the trust but verify reaganesque phrase and a lot of opponents are saying you cant do that. You cant trust and verify. And by the way youve already going to allow by lifting the arms embargo however gradually, youre already giving something away about that its a very different situation from the way reagan was. They no longer say trust but verify they say dont trust but verify. Thats the new expression. But this is why the u. S. Had to give up on this point, really, the russians, the chinese, even the french and germans are looking to sell weapons to iran and what theyre saying is listen you wanted to keep the Nuclear Issue very separate from irans other activities in the region. So this arms embargo, if youre opposition to lifting it now has nothing do with Nuclear Issues. Lets get afareeds thought on this. The president of the United States will be walking in momentarily into the east room of the white house. Hell open with a statement then answer reporters questions. Were told this News Conference could go on for 45 minutes, maybe as long as an an hour. Well have live coverage of the whole thing. Fareed one of the big question ss that critics say is this 24day note i have f notification by the iaea that iran is cheating trying to hide something, they will have 24 days that notification before inspectors can go in and the argue system that within 24 days you can hide a lot of stuff. What do you make of that . It is the weakest part of the deal. I think deal in general is quite remarkable in being comprehensive and intrusive and going all the way back to Uranium Mines. The 24day inspection process, the multilayered inspections process is the weakest part of the deal. The compensating fact is that you now have Extraordinary Technology that allows you to figure out whats going on before you get to the site so you can raise suspicions. And because the overall context is one in which you know whats happening at the mines. You have cameras and inspectors in each of these major facilities in places like that. You would be tipped off to suspicious activity. I think if you pick that one element of the deal yup, its not ideal. But you talk to experienced iaea inspectors and they will tell you with todays technology theres a lot you can do to compensate for that weakness. And another criticism, and jim acosta is our man at the white house in the east room getting ready for this News Conference with the president , another criticism, ive heard if you go through the detail jim and i wonder how the Administration Responds to this they point out all the inspectors that the iranians will allow to come in from the International AtomicEnergy Agency will have to be inspectors from countries that have formal full diplomatic relations with iran. Meaning the United States will not be allowed to have any inspectors that go into iran to take a look because the u. S. Does not have full diplomatic relations with iran. What does the administration say about that . That was a concession made during this negotiating process and its essentially because the iranians dont trust the americans to do a credible job of inspections so what youll see unfold i think, wolf is yes youre going to have a daily routine inspection of the known sites that have been a part of the Iranian Nuclear lexicon for some five or six years now. The question becomes what happens with these suspicious sites and thats where you get into a catandmouse game. Theres been a lot of talk and the israelis have been demanding this notion of any time anywhere access to sites around the country. Administration officials have set thats a myth, theres no country on earth that will allow International Inspectors to go anywhere at any time its not going to happen so you have to see unfold here is this negotiated process and its going to get frustrating not only for the white house but other partners who are part of this deal. There may be moments in the coming months where these inspectors are not getting access to these sites, these possible military sites where there may be Nuclear Activity suspected of occurring. The inspectors may not get automatic immediate access to those sites. And thats when the games begin and you hear from Administration Official what is they dont want to go is get back to flashback to 10 12 years ago before the iraq war got started and there were inspectors trying to get access to sites and the iraqis were saying no you cant have access to these sites. But wolf what youll hear from the president when he comes in here in a few moments and hopefully its a few moments from now is the president will walk through the arguments he laid out yesterday which is if you dont have a deal what happens next . If you dont have a deal, the president will say, the two to three month breakout time the iranians currently have gets shrunk to zero. Then all of the activities that the israelis and republicans are worried about about supporting terrorism, the houthi rebels, the assad regime that becomes much much worse because you have potentially a Nuclear State in tehran. So thats anningment you will hear from the president that its much easier to keep a lid on iran. Thats why Hillary Clinton when she was on capitol hill you heard her say this is an important first step to keep a lid on the iran Nuclear Program. The question becomes for Hillary Clinton and this white house is as goes this Iran Nuclear Deal as go these inspections and the catandmouse games that may follow so go not only the prospects for this white house and the legacy of this presidency but potentially Hillary Clintons candidacy. Can you imagine, wolf, shes trying to run for president and you have these iranians throwing up roadblocks and playing games with International Inspectors over these Iranian Nuclear sites. It could be a big headache for the democrats over the remaining months of this president. Yesterday Hillary Clinton in her initial reaction to the deal when she met with reporters issued a lukewarm statement saying it was important. Later in the day after she had more briefings she issued a lengthy written statement much more robustly endorsing this agreement. Elise elise, what is the administration saying . Youre talking to the negotiators who were directly involved about some of these problem s problems as far as inspections 24 days 150 billion than eased up if for iranians to spread their money around. What are they saying . Well, they have an answer for everything. On the inspections issue its not really ultimately it turns out to 24 days but iran has 14 days to comply with the request. If they dont reply, it goes to a committee. By the time its going to a committee for another seven days or so then it starts to be like, listen, if youre not going to comply those sakss will snap back right away. But they will have 24 days for which they can move correct, but by 24 days if those inspectors arent getting in then you start to get about the snapback. Well they have to go in in 24 days. Exactly. But look any time anywhere was never possible. You would have to have a lot of inspectors on the ground all throughout iran to be any time anywhere there was always going to be some sort of managed access. Thats what theyre calling it. Listen its as fareed said and secretary kerry said yesterday. You need to have access to all areas of the fuel cycle. So if iran is cheating in one area its not going to be possible for them to cheat in all areas without people knowing about it. I think the issue of whether iran is going to cheat under the cover of night and no one will know about it is a little overblown. There will be signs if iran is cheating and what u. S. Officials say is they understand all of the criticism but if the u. S. Two walk away and they warned congress yesterday, if Congress Ends this agreement and block this is agreement, allies will walk away from the u. S. , the lust never be able to reimpose the kind of sanctions that have brought attorney this point. And so you have iran walking away, a breakout state and then there are no sanctions to do anything about it. Stand by. Were waiting for the president of the United States to walk into the east room of