Hollandes huge diplomatic initiative. After the paris attacks. To try to bring together various countries in a grand coalition to combat isis. Hes been to washington already. Hes met with Angela Merkel of germany. He met with David Cameron, the british Prime Minister. Now hes here in moscow sitting down for a working dinner as we speak with Vladimir Putin, the russian president. Of course, theyve both been affected by terrorism in the past several weeks. The french attacks everybody in paris. But also russian lost an airliner in sinai, you may remember, 224 People Killed when that was bombed by suspected isis terrorist Group Related terrorist group. So the two have got a shared interest in combatting this group. Its something Vladimir Putin said in the minutes before the dinner started. They met the cameras. They allowed a few photographs to be taken. Vladimir putin said some encouraging remarks, saying, look, we want to Work Together and unite against a common evil. So thats what the discussions are going to be about. Were expecting a joint press conference when their dinner breaks up and they finish having that working meeting in the hours ahead. But its complicated. Its complicated because theres a new problem in syria. Turkish warplane shooting that russian warplane out of the sky. And of course, you know, its made the whole situation a lot more complicated than it was a few days ago. We know putin has demanded an apology from turkey because of this. Turkeys president erdogan responded perhaps not in a way that Vladimir Putin would like to hear. This is an exclusive interview with our becky anderson. Lets listen. Theres a party that needs to f apologize, its not us. Those who violated our airspace are the ones that need to apologize. Our pilots and our armed forces, they simply fulfilled their duties, which consisted of responding to the violation of the rules of engagement. I think this is in essence. What are you hearing, matthew, about this dispute with turkey . Well, the russians are absolutely furious that this has taken place. Not just because theyve had one of their warplanes shot out of the sky by turkish f16s but they lost one of the pilots. He was shot dead as the rebels filmed themselves machine gunning him as he parachuted to the ground. Another marine, russian marine, was killed in the search and rescue operation that followed. So this has caused a massive political rupture here in russia. The russians are already talking about economic sanctions on turkey. The Prime Minister of russia, dmitry medvedev, has spoken to his Prime Minister, saying lets make a list of targets we can sanction, looking at gas supplies, food supplies. The tourists. That could end soon. So that is not an end to the crisis. Matthew chance in moscow, thank you so much. I want to turn to london. This is where Prime MinisterDavid Cameron is asking his parliament to let britain get in the game against isis in syria. He is pressing for a vote on joining the air campaign over syria, along with the United States, france and russia, among others. British planes are already in the air over iraq. And here is part of camerons sometimes emotional push to parliament this morning. My first responsibility is Prime Minister and our first job in this house is to keep the british people safe. We have the assets to do that. We can significantly extend the capabilities of the International Coalition forces. That is one reason why members of the International Coalition, including president obama and president hollande, have made it clear to me that they want britain to stand with them in joining air strikes in syria, as well as iraq. These are our closest allies and they want our help. The most important answer to the question why us is i believe even more fundamental. And its this. We shouldnt be content with outsourcing our security to our allies. If we believe action can help protect us, than with our allies we should be part of that action, not standing aside from it. And from this moral point comes a fundamental question. If we wont act now when our friend and ally, france, has been struck in this way, then our allies in the world can be forgiven for asking, if not now, when . Hes wrong now to ignore the real threat, the isil plan, which is to escalate a regional war into a world war between christians and muslims. And wouldnt our action now repeat what we did in 2003 when we deepened the conflict, we deepened the divide between muslims and christians . That is their strategy. And wont this action now lead to more . The great threat is homegrown terrorism. Isnt his action likely to increase recruits to terrorists to jihadism here and elsewhere in the world . I know the honorable gentleman deeply wants to have the Peaceful World we all dream of. In that, we have something in common. What id say to him is, you know, isil has taken action against us already. They were behind the murder of people on the beach in tunisia. Theyre behind the plots in our country. They butchered our friends and allies and our citizens in paris. And in terms of this battle between muslims and christians, that is what we want to avoid. It is by working with muslim allies to stop this radicalization, stop this extremism and stop isil, that we prevent this clash from taking place. As for isis themselves, they butcher muslims in vast numbers. Thats why they have to be stopped. In the end, we cant subcontract that work out to everybody else. We should be part of it. Want to bring in phil black now. He is covering this from london. Phil, you sort of flash back to a couple years ago in 2013 when the parliament really gave David Cameron a stinging defeat as he sought to take some military action in syria, albeit against bashar al assad. Has the rise of isis changed things there in such a way that getting involved to combat isis, this is something that British Public opinion, that the mps would go along with . Yes, possibly, but you have that movement on one hand competing with a longstanding deep suspicion of Foreign Military intervention that goes back to the iraq war as well. You heard cameron there being asked a very passionate question about repeating the mistakes of 2003. Thats a reference to iraq. Thats what David Cameron is trying to overcome. Its why hes stating his case in a very sober deliberate cautious way. Very different to the way tony cameron made the case for war back in 2003. Stressing that the same mistakes wont be repeated. Stressing this would be a legal action. Thats why hes making this case but he said hell only bring it to parliament to vote if he believes he has the numbers. If he believes he has enough support in parliament to pass this, to get that approval, it could happen as early as next week. Well, he certainly doesnt want another defeat. We will stay tuned as you follow this with us. Thanks so much, phil. I want to talk more now about the impact that the british decision could have on the fight against isis in syria. Joining me now from new york is david rhode. A Senior Global Affairs analyst. From california, cnn military analyst, retired colonel rick francona. David, i want to start with you. David cameron is talking about the cover that would provide if britain were to join the fight with the u. S. Against syria. What is he proposing . What would the Immediate Impact be for the coalition . I think it would be helpful if britain participated, but its not vital. I dont think theres a military solution, a pure military solution to whats happening here. And so the one thing it would produce is unity. I think as isil watches the tensions between russia and turkey this week, as they watch this sort of intense debate in britain, as obama and the u. S. Hesitates in sending in ground troops, i think that helps isil. I think the division and the lack of clarity among the western allies helps them. I think its incumbent upon cameron and others about how this is different than simply invading iraq. Im not sure theyve made that case yet. What do you think about that, colonel francona . What does he need to do to make that case . Do you see him bringing this to a vote where hes confident that hes going to get support . Well, i hope that he gets support. As david said, the problem isnt whether the british participate in syria or not. Militari militarily, it wont make a difference. What we dont have is clarity of purpose here. Were working at odds are the other people involvemillion syria. Thats the russians, the iranians and the iraqis, all supporting bashar al assad. We are all in the fight against isis but we want to remove assad from power. Nothings going to happen against isis because we cant get the russians, the americans, the french, british, everybody on the same sheet of music. So im hoping we can get that resolved. And then the british of course are always welcome to provide their support in syria. But the british support in other ways. Its just not their military support. They have a lot of intelligence capabilities we need. I want to talk about this dispute going on right now between russia and turkey. Vladimir putin, hes waiting for an apology from turkey for this shooting down of a russian jet. Turkey says this was an incursion into their airspace. They gave multiple warnings. And there eith, theyre saying russia who needs to apologize. How does this complicate these talks about what a political transition in syria could be . It deeply complicated them. I agree with frank. What you want to do is use military force to pressure isil and shrink the territory they have and you want to move forward on some sort of diplomatic solution in syria. No one is articulating a clear purpose here, a clear longterm strategy. The old sort of iraq views where all military forces, some on the left and liberals, and on the right, you know, the u. S. , theres an argument you just bomb them and that will solve the problem. It has to be a combination of force and diplomacy. The dispute between russia and turkey really worries me because both, you know, turkish leader erdogan is a nationalist. He wants an apology. Putin has made his name in russia as a nationalist. Hes demanding an apology. So the two personalities worry me. They need to back down. This dispute between turkey and russia just helps isil. And i just worry for political reasons, each leader will up the receiptic in russia and turkey and will continue to have this division and distraction. Colonel, if you see that, if you see this rhetoric increased, you know, if, god forbid, you see Something Else happen that really ratchets this up, which we realize is possible after the shooting down of this russian plane, what does that mean, where would it take this conflict . As the colonel said it only plays into the hand of isil, isis. When youve got disharmony between the people that are supposed to be fighting isis, it only serves their purposes. They have both got to realize we have a bigger problem here and thats isis. Its not that border. If you look at what happened, the russians have made too many provocations and thats why the turks responded as they did. This was a very minor incursion and it drew a major reaction. This is a reaction to numerous provocations over the last several months. Its not just in turkey. Putin has been pressing nato on all of its boarders. Putin needs to back down a little bit. And the turks need to be a little less sensitive about that border. 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