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Wolf Blitzer looks at politics, Breaking News and international stories. Weve not heard from cohens attorneys either for any comment on our reporting. Stand by for a moment, kara. I want to get back to you. Shimon, what else are you learning . Wolf, some of what were told the u. S. Attorney there in new york has been looking at are payments Michael Cohen received. This all came out that he received them for potential lobbying, potential influence at the white house and other places. Some of the people who have come before the grand jury there in new york were asked questions about this money, about the money that Michael Cohen had paid them. Some of them who have been asked to appear before the grand jury, they were told they did not need to appear right now while prosecutors could be close to negotiating this plea deal. Of course, keep in mind, as kara said, at any time this could fall apart. There are some questions about money, whether or not what kind of fine potentially michael i understand that theres a lot of give and take going on at the moment, as laura said, but i strongly suspect that at the end of the day, well see Michael Cohen develop into a global cooperating witness. Shan, let me get your analysis. I think thats right. While his lawyers may want to just have a, quote, Plea Negotiation right now, thats not all thats going on. The prosecution is going to want to debrief him. Theyre going to want proffers from the lawyers as to what information can he give. And theyre going to look at this from a global perspective. Its not going to be what its sounding like right now, which is which charge can we pick and choose to plead guilty to. Rachel . Totally seconding all that was said before. This is a guy who was president Donald Trumps fixer. He knows things about the president that nobody else knows, even people that work every day in the white house. Theyre of course going to want to try to get information from him. Also, one of my colleagues talked to. Michael cohens lawyer just a couple days ago. Lanny davis, he kept bringing up that hes been in talks with john dean, who obviously flipped on nixon during watergate, saying he sees parallels with his clients situation, saying that cohen has seen things that prosecutors potentially would want. So again, i would be very surprised if these conversations are not ongoing right now. He clearly knows stuff they would want to know. Its interesting, laura. The special Counsel Robert Mueller referred this Michael Cohen case to the u. S. Attorney for the Southern District of new york in manhattan, instead of doing it himself. Remind our viewers why. That could potentially be relevant if there is a plea deal. Well, remember, Robert Mueller has continuously been criticized about the expansive nature of i hhis mandate, that s trying to pry on issues that are unrelated to collusion with a member of the Trump Campaign with russia. He saw an opportunity to have a case that he came across, and he farmed it out. It doesnt mean he can never get any aspect of it back. What people complain about is the idea, well, he was told to go into a house and investigate a homicide and ignore the mountain of cocaine on the coffee table. The Michael Cohen case is the mountain of cocaine on the coffee table, and he farmed that out. If it turns out theres more information about his underlying mandate, he can retrieve that information. But its interest to be know he farmed this out and theres actually some actual comprehensive charge that might come of it, showing theres some fruit of the labor of the special counsel team. But the u. S. Attorney for the Southern District of new york works very closely with the special counsel, right . Exactly. And just because bob mueller farmed out a portion of the investigation to the Southern District of new york, perhaps because that portion deals only with taxi medallions, financial crimes that Michael Cohen may have committed in new york. That doesnt mean bob mueller all along hasnt retained a great big hunk of the Michael Cohen investigation for himself. The two are not mutually exclusive. They work very closely together. Everybody stand by. Theres more Breaking News were following. The jury in the trial of former Trump Campaign chairman Paul Manafort says its stuck on one count right now out of the 18, and the judge has told them to keep deliberating. Were going there to the courthouse live right after this. You wouldnt accept an incomplete job from any one else. Why accept it from an allergy pill . Flonase relieves sneezing, itchy, watery eyes and a runny nose, plus nasal congestion, which most pills dont. Its more complete allergy relief. Flonase. And if you get lost, just hit me on the old horn. Man toms my best friend, but ever since he bought a new house. Tom its a 10 cover . Oh, okay. Didnt see that on the website. Hes been acting more and more like his dad. Come on, guys jump in the waters fine tom pritchard. How we doin . Hi, there. Tom pritchard. Can we get a round of jalapeno poppers for me and the boys, please . Ive been saving a lot of money with progressive lately, so. Progressive cant protect you from becoming your parents. But we can protect your home and auto when you bundle with us. Schneider outside the courthouse in alexandria, virginia. Whats the latest, jessica . Reporter wolf, the jury has been back in that Deliberation Room for just more than an hour now. They went in just before noon. All of this upon the judges instruction that they go back into the jury room and continue their deliberations on that one count that they indicate theyve had trouble reaching unanimous verdict on. So right now the jury is back in the Deliberation Room. It indicates that perhaps this jury has come to a conclusion, has reached a decision on those other 17 counts, and theres one count theyre having trouble with. Its interesting. This judge gave whats called in this circuit a sawyers charge to the jury. It basically presses the jury to go back into the Deliberation Room and reconsider things, talk things over again. He put things very simply for the jury. He said, you should not surrender your honest conviction simply to reach a verdict. But then he talked to them for five minutes, imploring them to continue working together. He said that it is your duty to agree upon a verdict if you can do so without violating your individual inclinations. He then encouraged the jury to continue working together. He said give deference to each other, listen to each others argues. So possibly for the past hour plus, thats exactly what this jury has been doing. Theres no indication as to how long they may take, whether or not they may end up reaching a unanimous decision on this one additional count theyre having trouble with. As for the defense team, they walked out of this court after the instruction was given to the jury. The defense team still putting on an air of positivity, saying all of this has been good for Paul Manafort. Of course, its only the jury that knows, and perhaps well know soon too. Perhaps well wait for a verdict. Well see if it comes soon. Six men and six women on that jury. Well stay in close touch with you, jessica. All right, shan, what do you think . What does this say to you that the jury asked the judge what if they can only Reach Agreement on 17 of the 18 counts . If i were the prosecutor, i would be happy about that note. I think its more likely that they have reached a decision to want to convict on the other counts as opposed to acquit. Thats why theyre very conscientiously working over this last count. And it certainly says theyre having some dissension about that last count, but i would not be happy if i was the defense right how. I would be quietly confident if i was the prosecutor. Laura, withe be check with t criminal rules of federal procedure. Ill read to you one smnentence. If the jury cannot agree to all counts, the jury may return a verdict on those counts on which it has agreed. You can render a partial verdict. Now, of course, the judge was essentially saying, teamwork makes the dream work. Continue to try to get all the counts resolved. You can, in fact, give them a partial verdict. Thats okay to do so. What happens if they are to return maybe 17 of the 18 or 3 of 18 or 1 of the 18, the prosecution, if they have a conviction or an acquittal either way can say we will decide to retry on that particular ground, on that particular charge alone. If you have a conviction on 17 of 18 counts, you dont necessarily want to have that particular new trial. Remember, this is obviously a twoweek trial. You can do a partial verdict. This jury is well aware of that now. How do you see it . I actually have two observations about this. The first one is im a little surprised judge ellis went right to an antideadlock instruction. The jury didnt announce they were deadlocked. Usually thats when a judge opts to give an antideadlock instruction. They just asked a question. What happens if we cant reach unanimous verdicts on one of the 18 counts . Ive had this exact note in criminal trials. What i think we cant say for certain, but what i think is going on in their minds is they dont necessarily know that if they deadlock on one, even if theyve reached verdicts on the other 17, they might believe the whole case ends up as a hung jury, which is not the case. They can return a partial verdict. Heres what i predict. If they send out another note saying were still struggling with one, the judge at that point will probably ask, have you reached unanimous verdicts on any counts . If so, lets announce them in open court. That would be a big, big deal. One of the other rules is if the jury cannot agree on a verdict on one or more counts, the court may declare a mistrial on those counts. The government may retry any defendant on any count on which the jury could not agree. So there is that option. But if, in fact, they get a conviction, we dont know if they will, if they get a conviction on 17 of the 18 counts, thats a pretty big deal for the special counsel. Yeah, big victory for special Counsel Robert Mueller. This is obviously the first trial of this investigation. If they are victorious, thats going to obviously bolster the public view of what theyre doing from here on out. I think its interesting that you mentioned the prosecutors should be happy about this. My colleague was talking manaforts lawyer. He was saying that they believe its a good sign for manafort that the jury hasnt been able to decide. Maybe that was before they found out it was just one count that they were deliberating on. But again, just goes to show we dont know what theyre thinking at this point. Actually, he tried something interesting. He asked for a new verdict form to put the onyx of hung jury on every single count, trying to suggest they should revisit that question. Interesting strategy attempt by him. I think to glenns point, the judge giving this sort of Dynamite Charge now also creates some possible appellate issues. They had not announced they were deadlocked. Later on if theres a conviction, manaforts team could argue, you put too much pressure on them at this point. Seek a retrial under those circumstances. All right. Looks like theyre getting closer and closer. This is day four of their deliberations. We will, of course, stand by for that verdict. Guys, thanks very, very much. Dont go too far. Theres more Breaking News were following. The president s longtime fixer and lawyer now in talks for a plea deal with federal prosecutors. What Michael Cohens legal jeopardy means for the president of the United States. Plus, microsoft thwarts a cyber attack by Russian Hackers targeting critics of moscow. Who was targeted, how they were discovered and much more. Well be right back. Medicare. Come on in. Youre turning 65 soon . Yep. And youre retiring at 67 . Thats the plan its also a great time to learn about an aarp Medicare Supplement insurance plan, insured by Unitedhealthcare Insurance Company. Heres why. Medicare part b doesnt pay for everything. This part is up to you. A Medicare Supplement plan helps pay for some of what medicare doesnt. Call Unitedhealthcare Insurance Company today to request this free decision guide. And learn about the only Medicare Supplement plans endorsed by aarp. Selected for meeting their high standards of quality and service. This type of plan lets you say yes to any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. Do you accept medicare patients . I sure do so Call Unitedhealthcare today and ask for your free decision guide. Oh, and happy birthday. Or retirement. In advance. Call or go online today. Call or go on line today. Theres more Breaking News. The special Counsel Robert Mueller once again delaying the sentencing of the president s fired National Security adviser Michael Flynn. Flynn pleaded guilty back in december. The court has asked for periodic updates. Lets go to cnns laura coates, our legal analyst. In their statement, they said due to the status of its investigation, the special counsels office does not believe this matter is ready to be scheduled for a Sentencing Hearing at this time. Clearly they want to do more questioning of flynn. Theyre hoping to get more information. They do, indeed. They want to keep him on that hook. Notice the direct contrast between Michael Flynn and george papadopoulos, both who have pled guilty. Mueller recommended sentencing already for papadopoulos for his betrayal, they perceived, after he struck a plea deal for not being a cooperative witness, for not giving information they needed. Michael flynn, in contrast, is somebody who i think pled guilty before george papadopoulos, and you have this notion of, well, we want him to still be there. The delay of sentencing tells you they have a need for this person and that hes a fruitful cooperator, not just giving information or a blow hard in different ways. Hes somebody whos actually still useful. Once hes no longer useful, they will then ask for sentencing. They told the court theyll give another update in 30 days, when there could be sentencing. And of course 30 days from now is around the time muellers probe would have to end if the doj rules would say you cant interfere with an election. Very important. No sentencing for Michael Flynn, at least not yet. Meanwhile, other Important News happening right now. The u. S. Intelligence community warned this would happen again, and now it has. Microsoft says russians tried to hack the u. S. Senate as well as conservative think tanks here in washington. Those attempts thwarted just weeks ahead of the November Midte midterm elections. The attempted cyberattack happening as the president of the United States is still casting doubt on russias Meddli Meddling in the 2016 president ial election. Lets go to our Senior National correspondent joining us right now. Alex, youve been doing a lot of reporting on this. What can you tell us about this attempted hack . Wolf, this was not the government that came forward with this information. This was microsoft, who are saying that a number of sites were set up in order for russia to carry out attacks on the u. S. Midterm elections. Now, they are pointing the finger squarely at fancy bear. Youll remember that name. That is the russian Hacking Group thats directed by the Russian Military intelligence. We of course know that name from 2016. They were accused of and indicted for hacking into the dnc in 2016. Now, there is no evidence that any of these sites that were set up were effective in carrying out attacks. How they did it was they set up six different websites that are designed to carry out what are called Spear Phishing attacks. Theyre designed to look like official sites for different groups are, for different people. Usually theres one letter, one digit that is slightly off so that people are lulled into a sense of security and share personal information. Theyll be sent a phoney link, people will follow that link and put in Important Information like their email passwords, which the hackers will then use to get inside. Now, in the case of these six different websites, one of the key words that was used was senate, an indication that these hackers were likely targeting senators. Theres Different Senate offices. This is something that weve actually seen before. We heard this last month when an almost identical attack was revealed to have been carried out against senator Claire Mccaskill of missouri, whos one of the most vulnerable senators in this midterm election. Microsoft has said the hackers are broadening, expanding their targets. Thats because now theyre not just going after democrats as they have in the past. Theyre going after republicans, most notably these two groups, the Breaking News<\/a> and international stories. Weve not heard from cohens attorneys either for any comment on our reporting. Stand by for a moment, kara. I want to get back to you. Shimon, what else are you learning . Wolf, some of what were told the u. S. Attorney there in new york has been looking at are payments Michael Cohen<\/a> received. This all came out that he received them for potential lobbying, potential influence at the white house and other places. Some of the people who have come before the grand jury there in new york were asked questions about this money, about the money that Michael Cohen<\/a> had paid them. Some of them who have been asked to appear before the grand jury, they were told they did not need to appear right now while prosecutors could be close to negotiating this plea deal. Of course, keep in mind, as kara said, at any time this could fall apart. There are some questions about money, whether or not what kind of fine potentially michael\ri understand that theres a lot of give and take going on at the moment, as laura said, but i strongly suspect that at the end of the day, well see Michael Cohen<\/a> develop into a global cooperating witness. Shan, let me get your analysis. I think thats right. While his lawyers may want to just have a, quote, Plea Negotiation<\/a> right now, thats not all thats going on. The prosecution is going to want to debrief him. Theyre going to want proffers from the lawyers as to what information can he give. And theyre going to look at this from a global perspective. Its not going to be what its sounding like right now, which is which charge can we pick and choose to plead guilty to. Rachel . Totally seconding all that was said before. This is a guy who was president Donald Trumps<\/a> fixer. He knows things about the president that nobody else knows, even people that work every day in the white house. Theyre of course going to want to try to get information from him. Also, one of my colleagues talked to. Michael cohens lawyer just a couple days ago. Lanny davis, he kept bringing up that hes been in talks with john dean, who obviously flipped on nixon during watergate, saying he sees parallels with his clients situation, saying that cohen has seen things that prosecutors potentially would want. So again, i would be very surprised if these conversations are not ongoing right now. He clearly knows stuff they would want to know. Its interesting, laura. The special Counsel Robert Mueller<\/a> referred this Michael Cohen<\/a> case to the u. S. Attorney for the Southern District<\/a> of new york in manhattan, instead of doing it himself. Remind our viewers why. That could potentially be relevant if there is a plea deal. Well, remember, Robert Mueller<\/a> has continuously been criticized about the expansive nature of i hhis mandate, that s trying to pry on issues that are unrelated to collusion with a member of the Trump Campaign<\/a> with russia. He saw an opportunity to have a case that he came across, and he farmed it out. It doesnt mean he can never get any aspect of it back. What people complain about is the idea, well, he was told to go into a house and investigate a homicide and ignore the mountain of cocaine on the coffee table. The Michael Cohen<\/a> case is the mountain of cocaine on the coffee table, and he farmed that out. If it turns out theres more information about his underlying mandate, he can retrieve that information. But its interest to be know he farmed this out and theres actually some actual comprehensive charge that might come of it, showing theres some fruit of the labor of the special counsel team. But the u. S. Attorney for the Southern District<\/a> of new york works very closely with the special counsel, right . Exactly. And just because bob mueller farmed out a portion of the investigation to the Southern District<\/a> of new york, perhaps because that portion deals only with taxi medallions, financial crimes that Michael Cohen<\/a> may have committed in new york. That doesnt mean bob mueller all along hasnt retained a great big hunk of the Michael Cohen<\/a> investigation for himself. The two are not mutually exclusive. They work very closely together. Everybody stand by. Theres more Breaking News<\/a> were following. The jury in the trial of former Trump Campaign<\/a> chairman Paul Manafort<\/a> says its stuck on one count right now out of the 18, and the judge has told them to keep deliberating. Were going there to the courthouse live right after this. You wouldnt accept an incomplete job from any one else. Why accept it from an allergy pill . Flonase relieves sneezing, itchy, watery eyes and a runny nose, plus nasal congestion, which most pills dont. Its more complete allergy relief. Flonase. And if you get lost, just hit me on the old horn. Man toms my best friend, but ever since he bought a new house. Tom its a 10 cover . Oh, okay. Didnt see that on the website. Hes been acting more and more like his dad. Come on, guys jump in the waters fine tom pritchard. How we doin . Hi, there. Tom pritchard. Can we get a round of jalapeno poppers for me and the boys, please . Ive been saving a lot of money with progressive lately, so. Progressive cant protect you from becoming your parents. But we can protect your home and auto\rwhen you bundle with us. Schneider outside the courthouse in alexandria, virginia. Whats the latest, jessica . Reporter wolf, the jury has been back in that Deliberation Room<\/a> for just more than an hour now. They went in just before noon. All of this upon the judges instruction that they go back into the jury room and continue their deliberations on that one count that they indicate theyve had trouble reaching unanimous verdict on. So right now the jury is back in the Deliberation Room<\/a>. It indicates that perhaps this jury has come to a conclusion, has reached a decision on those other 17 counts, and theres one count theyre having trouble with. Its interesting. This judge gave whats called in this circuit a sawyers charge to the jury. It basically presses the jury to go back into the Deliberation Room<\/a> and reconsider things, talk things over again. He put things very simply for the jury. He said, you should not surrender your honest conviction\rsimply to reach a verdict. But then he talked to them for five minutes, imploring them to continue working together. He said that it is your duty to agree upon a verdict if you can do so without violating your individual inclinations. He then encouraged the jury to continue working together. He said give deference to each other, listen to each others argues. So possibly for the past hour plus, thats exactly what this jury has been doing. Theres no indication as to how long they may take, whether or not they may end up reaching a unanimous decision on this one additional count theyre having trouble with. As for the defense team, they walked out of this court after the instruction was given to the jury. The defense team still putting on an air of positivity, saying all of this has been good for Paul Manafort<\/a>. Of course, its only the jury that knows, and perhaps well know soon too. Perhaps well wait for a verdict. Well see if it comes soon. Six men and six women on that jury. Well stay in close touch with\ryou, jessica. All right, shan, what do you think . What does this say to you that the jury asked the judge what if they can only Reach Agreement<\/a> on 17 of the 18 counts . If i were the prosecutor, i would be happy about that note. I think its more likely that they have reached a decision to want to convict on the other counts as opposed to acquit. Thats why theyre very conscientiously working over this last count. And it certainly says theyre having some dissension about that last count, but i would not be happy if i was the defense right how. I would be quietly confident if i was the prosecutor. Laura, withe be check with t criminal rules of federal procedure. Ill read to you one smnentence. If the jury cannot agree to all counts, the jury may return a verdict on those counts on which it has agreed. You can render a partial verdict. Now, of course, the judge was essentially saying, teamwork makes the dream work. Continue to try to get all the\rcounts resolved. You can, in fact, give them a partial verdict. Thats okay to do so. What happens if they are to return maybe 17 of the 18 or 3 of 18 or 1 of the 18, the prosecution, if they have a conviction or an acquittal either way can say we will decide to retry on that particular ground, on that particular charge alone. If you have a conviction on 17 of 18 counts, you dont necessarily want to have that particular new trial. Remember, this is obviously a twoweek trial. You can do a partial verdict. This jury is well aware of that now. How do you see it . I actually have two observations about this. The first one is im a little surprised judge ellis went right to an antideadlock instruction. The jury didnt announce they were deadlocked. Usually thats when a judge opts to give an antideadlock instruction. They just asked a question. What happens if we cant reach unanimous verdicts on one of the 18 counts . Ive had this exact note in criminal trials. What i think we cant say for\rcertain, but what i think is going on in their minds is they dont necessarily know that if they deadlock on one, even if theyve reached verdicts on the other 17, they might believe the whole case ends up as a hung jury, which is not the case. They can return a partial verdict. Heres what i predict. If they send out another note saying were still struggling with one, the judge at that point will probably ask, have you reached unanimous verdicts on any counts . If so, lets announce them in open court. That would be a big, big deal. One of the other rules is if the jury cannot agree on a verdict on one or more counts, the court may declare a mistrial on those counts. The government may retry any defendant on any count on which the jury could not agree. So there is that option. But if, in fact, they get a conviction, we dont know if they will, if they get a conviction on 17 of the 18 counts, thats a pretty big deal for the special counsel. Yeah, big victory for special Counsel Robert Mueller<\/a>. This is obviously the first trial of this investigation. If they are victorious, thats going to obviously bolster the public view of what theyre doing from here on out. I think its interesting that you mentioned the prosecutors should be happy about this. My colleague was talking manaforts lawyer. He was saying that they believe its a good sign for manafort that the jury hasnt been able to decide. Maybe that was before they found out it was just one count that they were deliberating on. But again, just goes to show we dont know what theyre thinking at this point. Actually, he tried something interesting. He asked for a new verdict form to put the onyx of hung jury on every single count, trying to suggest they should revisit that question. Interesting strategy attempt by him. I think to glenns point, the judge giving this sort of Dynamite Charge<\/a> now also creates some possible appellate issues. They had not announced they were deadlocked. Later on if theres a conviction, manaforts team could argue, you put too much pressure on them at this point. Seek a retrial under those circumstances. All right. Looks like theyre getting closer and closer. This is day four of their deliberations. We will, of course, stand by for that verdict. Guys, thanks very, very much. Dont go too far. Theres more Breaking News<\/a> were following. The president s longtime fixer and lawyer now in talks for a plea deal with federal prosecutors. What Michael Cohen<\/a>s legal jeopardy means for the president of the United States<\/a>. Plus, microsoft thwarts a cyber attack by Russian Hackers<\/a> targeting critics of moscow. Who was targeted, how they were discovered and much more. Well be right back. Medicare. Come on in. Youre turning 65 soon . Yep. And youre retiring at 67 . Thats the plan its also a great time to learn about an aarp Medicare Supplement<\/a> insurance plan, insured by Unitedhealthcare Insurance Company<\/a>. Heres why. Medicare part b doesnt pay for everything. This part is up to you. A Medicare Supplement<\/a> plan\rhelps pay for some of what medicare doesnt. Call Unitedhealthcare Insurance Company<\/a> today to request this free decision guide. And learn about the only Medicare Supplement<\/a> plans endorsed by aarp. Selected for meeting their high standards of quality and service. This type of plan lets you say yes to any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. Do you accept medicare patients . I sure do so Call Unitedhealthcare<\/a> today and ask for your free decision guide. Oh, and happy birthday. Or retirement. In advance. Call or go online today. Call or go on line today. Theres more Breaking News<\/a>. The special Counsel Robert Mueller<\/a> once again delaying the sentencing of the president s fired National Security<\/a> adviser Michael Flynn<\/a>. Flynn pleaded guilty back in december. The court has asked for periodic updates. Lets go to cnns laura coates, our legal analyst. In their statement, they said due to the status of its investigation, the special counsels office does not believe this matter is ready to be scheduled for a Sentencing Hearing<\/a> at this time. Clearly they want to do more questioning of flynn. Theyre hoping to get more information. They do, indeed. They want to keep him on that hook. Notice the direct contrast between Michael Flynn<\/a> and george papadopoulos, both who have pled guilty. Mueller recommended sentencing\ralready for papadopoulos for his betrayal, they perceived, after he struck a plea deal for not being a cooperative witness, for not giving information they needed. Michael flynn, in contrast, is somebody who i think pled guilty before george papadopoulos, and you have this notion of, well, we want him to still be there. The delay of sentencing tells you they have a need for this person and that hes a fruitful cooperator, not just giving information or a blow hard in different ways. Hes somebody whos actually still useful. Once hes no longer useful, they will then ask for sentencing. They told the court theyll give another update in 30 days, when there could be sentencing. And of course 30 days from now is around the time muellers probe would have to end if the doj rules would say you cant interfere with an election. Very important. No sentencing for Michael Flynn<\/a>, at least not yet. Meanwhile, other Important News<\/a> happening right now. The u. S. Intelligence community warned this would happen again, and now it has. Microsoft says russians tried to\rhack the u. S. Senate as well as conservative think tanks here in washington. Those attempts thwarted just weeks ahead of the November Midte<\/a> midterm elections. The attempted cyberattack happening as the president of the United States<\/a> is still casting doubt on russias Meddli Meddling<\/a> in the 2016 president ial election. Lets go to our Senior National<\/a> correspondent joining us right now. Alex, youve been doing a lot of reporting on this. What can you tell us about this attempted hack . Wolf, this was not the government that came forward with this information. This was microsoft, who are saying that a number of sites were set up in order for russia to carry out attacks on the u. S. Midterm elections. Now, they are pointing the finger squarely at fancy bear. Youll remember that name. That is the russian Hacking Group<\/a> thats directed by the Russian Military<\/a> intelligence. We of course know that name from 2016. They were accused of and indicted for hacking into the dnc in 2016. Now, there is no evidence that\rany of these sites that were set up were effective in carrying out attacks. How they did it was they set up six different websites that are designed to carry out what are called Spear Phishing<\/a> attacks. Theyre designed to look like official sites for different groups are, for different people. Usually theres one letter, one digit that is slightly off so that people are lulled into a sense of security and share personal information. Theyll be sent a phoney link, people will follow that link and put in Important Information<\/a> like their email passwords, which the hackers will then use to get inside. Now, in the case of these six different websites, one of the key words that was used was senate, an indication that these hackers were likely targeting senators. Theres Different Senate<\/a> offices. This is something that weve actually seen before. We heard this last month when an almost identical attack was revealed to have been carried out against senator Claire Mccaskill<\/a> of missouri, whos one of the most vulnerable senators\rin this midterm election. Microsoft has said the hackers are broadening, expanding their targets. Thats because now theyre not just going after democrats as they have in the past. Theyre going after republicans, most notably these two groups, the Hudson Institute<\/a> and the International Republican<\/a> institute. Those are two conservative think tanks. Theyre notably antirussian, Vociferously Against<\/a> president putin. The iri has Board Members<\/a> who are very vocal in their antiputin stance. Those include senator john mccain, mitt romney, and many others. Now, we have to note we have not heard a response from the white house today, but we have heard from the kremlin. We got this rather interesting statement from them, which says, from the u. S. , we hear that there was not any meddling in the elections. Whom exactly theyre talking about, what is the proof, and on what grounds are they reaching such conclusions . So wolf, they are saying they dont know anything about this hacking, they dont know\ranything about these Hacking Group<\/a>s, but look at that. From the u. S. We hear there was not any meddling until the elections. Who are they hearing that from . The highest levels of the u. S. Government are saying the russians did hack into the 2016 elections. The only person whos waffling on that, wolf, is the president. Including that interview with reuters yesterday when he said if, if the russians did it. Once again raising a serious question. Alex, good report. Thank you very much. The president is silent so far on the new Hacking Attempt<\/a> by russia. So how will Congress Respond<\/a> . The Senate Majority<\/a> leader Mitch Mcconnell<\/a> issued this warning just over a month ago. Listen. I think the russians need to know that there are a lot of us who fully understand what happened in 2016, and it really better not happen again in 2018. All right. Lets get some insight now from former cia director, former defense secretary leon panetta. Mr. Secretary, thanks so much for joining us. So whats your reaction first of\rall to the news from microsoft that it blocked a Hacking Attempt<\/a> by Russian Military<\/a> intelligence targeting the u. S. Senate as well as these conservative republican think tanks . Well, theres no question that the russians are again engaged in a very broad and directed cyber attack against the United States<\/a> and against our election systems. They are going after not only democrats, theyre going after republicans who for one reason or another have raised concerns about russia. So its a very broad attack here. The good news is that microsoft was able to discover these sites and report them, and hopefully other companies will do the same. But there is no question that i think all of us have to be vigilant that the russians are continuing to try to influence american view points when it comes to this election. As you know, President Trump<\/a> once again as recently as yesterday questioning russias role in the attack on the 2016 president ial elections here in the United States<\/a>. Why this back and forth when the u. S. Intelligence community, including those leaders nominated, confirmed during the Trump Administration<\/a>, say without a doubt it was russia . Weve been asking that question for a long time now because this president seems to have a real blind sight when it comes to the role the russians are engaged in. He rejects what everyone else believes is the truth, that the russians are engaged in this effort. Our Intelligence Agencies<\/a> have made clear that thats the case. Republicans and democrats on the hill, as we heard senator mcconnell say, are aware that the russians are engaged in this\reffort. It continue, i think, to raise concerns for all of us. Why the president continues to ignore the facts. Why do you think he does . I think this president has shown that when it comes to russia and russian attacks and russian influence on our system, he has shown a willingness to accept their view point that they are not engaged. He did that at the summit with putin. He basically said he accepted what the russians were saying as opposed to what our Intelligence Agencies<\/a> were saying. So its very clear that for some reason here, the president believes the russians more than he believes our own intelligence and Law Enforcement<\/a> officials. You signed on to that initial letter from more than a dozen former Intelligence Leaders<\/a> here in the United States<\/a> criticizing the president s decision to revoke John Brennans<\/a> Security Clearance<\/a>. John brennan, the former cia director during the obama administration, a man you worked very closely with. Tell us, first of all, why you signed that letter. Well, as you saw from all of those that signed that letter, there were some 15 of us republicans and democrats who served in the intelligence area. And our concern is that this is about our National Security<\/a> interests. When you talk about Security Clearance<\/a>s, Security Clearance<\/a>s are used in order to help protect our National Security<\/a>. There are 4 million Security Clearance<\/a>s out there, largely in our intelligence community, our military community, and others that are serving our National Security<\/a> and trying to protect this country. To use our Security Clearance<\/a>\rprocess, which is related to National Security<\/a>, to use that now as a political weapon, to go after people whose political views you may not like, whose speech you may not like, whose support for investigations you may not like, turns our National Security<\/a> interests into a political weapon. I think this is kind of trumps approach of wag the dog, where he is using National Security<\/a> issues to divert attention. And i feel that that undermines not only our National Security<\/a>, i think it undermines the office of the presidency. Theres an article, an important article in the new issue of the New Yorker Magazine<\/a> that says that President Trump<\/a> even once considered denying Intelligence Briefings<\/a> to former president barack obama. The president fired back, tweeting this, and ill read what he just tweeted today. Falsely reported i was going to take the extraordinary step of denying Intelligence Briefings<\/a> to president obama. Never discussed or thought of. Explain why first of all former president s get regular Intelligence Briefings<\/a> and what would happen if they were denied those kinds of Intelligence Briefings<\/a> if for some reason president obama were denied a serious Intelligence Briefing<\/a> before he left on a foreign trip, for example . Well, its critical to provide former president s with an Intelligence Briefing<\/a> so theyre aware of the issues that are impacting on our country when they go abroad, when they speak because president s carry a lot of weight. You want president s to be informed about our National Security<\/a> threats. You want them to be totally\rinformed about the reason we have former directors is so that if the cia director or the Secretary Of State<\/a> wants to be able to get their opinions, they can provide them with the information that would help get their guidance and advice. Thats the way weve operated when it comes to National Security<\/a>, that we seek the advice of those who have served and have experience, and to suddenly pretend that you can deny that and walk away from that is to weaken this country. Since leaving the government, have you been asked for advice by current either a cia director or Secretary Of Defense<\/a> or other highlevel National Security<\/a> personnel . Have they called you and said, leon, i need some help . Ive been asked for advice, and ive always been prepared to give it because i think that all of us have a duty to this country and to its interests, regardless of whether republicans or democrats. I think the most important thing is to try to make sure that we h do Everything Possible<\/a> to trek the United States<\/a> of america. So when somebody in the Administration Calls<\/a> and wants my advice, im happy to give it. And they have called you, and you still have your Security Clearance<\/a>s . I think the Security Clearance<\/a> is one of those that are provided on the basis that if i was ever to go back to washington to a cia directors meeting, that they could reinstate that Security Clearance<\/a> for purposes of getting the information i would need to give that advice. I think thats the only way that\rSecurity Clearance<\/a> operates. But they have people in the Trump Administration<\/a> have called you . I just want to be precise on that point. Theyve called. It hasnt always involved Classified Information<\/a>, but they have called. You know, ive been willing to provide that advice when they call. I think its important for all of us to recognize that no one knows all the answers. When i was in office, i called my predecessors. I convened former directors of the cia at langley to be able to brief them on Classified Information<\/a> so i could get their views and opinions as to what needs to be done. You know, the important thing about people in office, whether theyre president or cia director is that we dont know everything. It is helpful to reach out to people to get their guidance and advice. I think the president needs to do more of that. Leon panetta, thanks so much for joining us. Thank you. Up next, theres more Breaking News<\/a> coming into cnn right now. President Trumps Supreme Court<\/a> nominee Brett Kavanaugh<\/a> weighing in directly on his view on the future of roe versus wade. What he said, stand by. R the re. Unlimited for you. For them. For all. Get unlimited for as low at 30 bucks per line for four lines at tmobile. Progressive helps keep you out there. The nations largest seniorliving referral service. For the past five years, ive spoken with hundreds of families and visited seniorcare communities around the country. And ive got to tell you, todays seniorliving communities are better than ever. These days, there are amazing amenities, like movie theaters, Exercise Rooms<\/a> and swimming pools, public cafes, bars, and bistros, even petcare services. And nobody understands your options like the advisers at a Place For Mom<\/a>. These are local, expert advisers that will partner with you to find the Perfect Place<\/a> and determine the right level of care, whether thats just a helping hand or fulltime memory care. 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While the senator left that meeting saying she will not yet reveal how she intends to vote, she certainly spoke complimentary of him, saying the meeting was excellent and informative. She says the meeting was devoted significantly a significant portion of the time was devoted to abortion. She said specifically that she asked kavanaugh whether he believed that roe v. Wade is settled as law. In that meeting, kavanaugh, she says, told her he agreed with\rjustice roberts what he said in his own nomination hearing, that, yes, it is settled as law. That could be key in potentially winning over senator Susan Collins<\/a> vote. Certainly kavanaugh has another big meeting on the hill. Hes right now meeting with senator Claire Mccaskill<\/a>, later today senator leahy, also Amy Klobuchar<\/a> and camela harris. Also meeting with chuck schumer, who is leading the charge to get more documents released from his time in the bush white house. This is just two weeks from his confirmation hearing. Sunlen, thank you very much for that update. Were following two major developments right now. The first one on Paul Manafort<\/a>s trial. The federal judge telling jurors to keep deliberating after they appear to be stuck on one of 18 counts. And more Breaking News<\/a>. President trumps former personal attorney and fixer\rMichael Cohen<\/a>, whos facing possible criminal charges, is now in serious talks with prosecutors for a potential plea deal. Well have the latest on that as well. Stay with us. Gimme one minute. And ill tell you some important things to know about medicare. First, it doesnt pay for everything. Say this pizza is your part b medical expenses. This much about 80 medicare will pay for. Whats left is on you. Thats where an aarp Medicare Supplement<\/a> insurance plan, insured by Unitedhealthcare Insurance Company<\/a> comes in. This type of plan helps pay some of what medicare doesnt. 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We have been big backers of the act and know that see the impact of the work we have done. Tell us how it came to your attention. Microsoft, give microsoft a lot of credit. Tha they were discovering this and how did they inform you . I was enjoying the last day of vacation on sunday and microsoft sent an email that it was urgent and needed to talk to the top Cyber Security<\/a> expert. Got on the call. I was surprised but not shocked\rto learn about this attempted Spear Phishing<\/a> by this unit to try to get our friends to try to log in and to pass their Contact Information<\/a> on and so that their computers essentially taken over by the gru. Was the fbi, Law Enforcement<\/a> involved . Did microsoft inform them . Microsoft in touch with Law Enforcement<\/a>. The fbi and the department of Homeland Security<\/a> have been in touch with us over time, not immediately over this case but we have been in touch with them because theres other foreign governments trying to get in, chinese, iranians and probably others. What was the damage done . None whatsoever. How come . You would think that how long has this been going on . Well, microsoft caught this, they saw that somebody tried to register a Mirror Website<\/a> that\rlooks like our website and prevented any damage to us and deeply grateful. So but you have to assume this is going on. Others have been targeted, as well. Microsoft or maybe other institutions have not discovered this. Sure. Look, we have been on high alert for sometime. Chinese tried to take down our website about a year ago and failed and hackers of shanghai. We have been on high alert and told the team to be very careful and alert to spelling errors, attempts for login i. D. S and told friends, also, dealing with us to be aware, as well. What advice do you have for think tanks around the country and the world . Be immensely suspicious of attachments from people you dont know. Even addresses that look like email addresses of people you know. Emails of people you know, double check. Click on the email, the sender name to be sure its right and if you have some suspicion, send it to your security person. Send it to your director of\roperations. Theyll tell you whether its real or worth opening the attachment or not. Are you surprised the president has not responded on twitter or else to this Microsoft Development<\/a> . Im sure he will. Theres a lot going on today. Even yesterday in the interview with reuters he was saying if the russians did try to hack in to the 2016 president ial still raising questions of that. Clearly tried to hack into our u. S. Senate offices. International republican institution, they work closely together and they both are very critical of the russians. Ken, good luck over there. Thank you for the important work you do. Thank you. Appreciate it. Monitoring several news breaking stories in new york. Michael cohen in talks with prosecutors for a potential plea deal. In virginia, right outside of washington, the federal jury for Paul Manafort<\/a> still deliberating after revealing they might be stuck on at least one of 18 charges. Stand by. I never count the wrin. And i dont add up the years. But what i do count on. Is staying happy and healthy. So, i add protein, vitamins and minerals to my diet with boost\u00ae. New boost\u00ae high protein nutritional drink now has 33 more highquality protein, along with 26 essential and minerals your body needs. All with guaranteed great taste. The upside im just getting started. Boost\u00ae high protein be up for life introducing custome be your own. Fabric design. Fakind. 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