Feel a little bit like the pirates of the caribbean movie. The first one was entertaining, you know, because of the goofy, rambling unbalanced star. But now after four of these things, im starting to get tired of the same old stories about the guy with the sharp weapons, and the female krk with no believable line. This debate was down from crowded clown chorus event, it was clear from the start that unlike fox business was going to run a tight ship. The rules are simple. If a candidate goes over their allotted time, will you hear this. It sounds like a game show but its not. Trevor thats right. Because if this was a game show it would screen out all the crazy people and everyone would actually have to answer the questions. laughter im not going to lie. Im not going to lie. I thought the bell was a great feature and a lot of the evening sounded like this. They say keep goingk keep going you dummies, keep going. And that is what this election should be about. As i said at the first if im. Im the son of an immigrant who came legally from cuba. To seek the american dream. Hillary clinton embodies the cronyism of washington. The dead horse act, now this statute, and the irs. It sounds like theyre scoring points. I love it. Its so much fun. And actually fox business had a live stream of the guy who was manning the bells during the debate. We should gradually raise the retirement age. We should have benefits grow more slowly, we should allow them to keep a portion applause . Trevor i feel you, hechter, i feel you. Now tread cruz was also responsible for what has got to be my favorite moment of 2015 debate so far. But to fully appreciate this, we need to back up a little bit, specifically to the greatest debate moment from the 2012 campaign when rick perry was selling his plan to shrink the federal government. Its three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. Commerce, education and the what is the third one there lets see, commerce and lets see i cant. The third one, i cant. Sorry. Trevor its like watching the hindenburg crash on top of the tie tannic. Titanic. But from that incident, a lesson could not have been more clear. If you are a statewide elected official from texas, participating in a republican president ial primary debate hosted by a Financial News network in the second week of november, then the one thing you should not do, under any circumstances is list the federal agencies you would propose to cut using your fingers. Thats all you have to not do. It is a very specific lesson that everyone understood, almost everyone. Five major agencies that i would eliminate. The irs, the department of commerce, the department of energy, the department of commerce, and hud. Trevor why why does this keep happening . It shouldnt be that hard to remember a list of three to five things. laughter . Trevor its like ted cruz is in a greek tragedy where someone shows him his horrible destiny and he trains and he tries hard and he does everything he can to avoid it but he still ends up banging his mom. Its the craziest thing ever. You were auditioning to be president of the United States of america. You cant remember numbers. Now you want people to trust with you new clear codes, are you kidding me. The codes are the two, the oh, the four what is the other oh, china got us. Boom i will say that cruzs handling of his gaffe was much belter than perry because he just powered through like nothing was wrong. Commerce, energy, and commerce, thats five. Prove me wrong. I bet rick perry was sitting at home like well played. And of course, everyone was watching jeb bush whose flagging campaign needed him to come out of the gate strong and confident. I was in washington, iowa, about three months ago talking about how bad washington d. C. Is. Get the kind of the anyway laughter . Trevor what happened . Cuz he sets up a joke. But then it just seems like hes too lazy to figure out the punch line. You know, a rabbi and a skinhead walk into a bar and ha ha, you see how that could ha i mean theyre ha ha, theyre sort of sort of, anyway, you get the idea. Ha, ha, ha, ha. And it wasnt just his joke. His Foreign Policy material didnt fare much better. The idea that it is a good idea for putin to be in syria, let isis take out assad and then putin will take out isis. Thats like a board game, thats like playing monopoly or something. Trevor wait, let me get that straight. Monopoly is the first board game that comes to your mind . Theres no better board game to describe the risk, of a strategy that puts our battleships into trouble. Sorry. applause . Trevor but who knows, maybe the bush familys monopoly games just get really intense. You have been captured by isis, go directly to the mass quer aid mass grave, do not pass go, do not say goodbye to your family. laughter now we also saw the possible new narrative in this story. Donald trump might be overstaying his welcome. Ronald reagan was strong but ronald reagan. Ronald reagan walked away at reykjavik. He walked away, he quit talking when it was time to quit talking. Can i finish with my time. Why does she keep interrupting everybody . Terrible. Yeah, i would like to finish i would like to finish my response, basically. Trevor yeah, boo boo, donald trump. Dont you dare shush carly fiorina. She may have another great fake abortion story to tell. laughter applause now its pretty clear. Donald trump old wants women talking on stage after he has awarded them some kind of sash. applause some signature policy, of course, is to deporlt upwards of 11 million immigrants. Now jeb called it impossible. John kasich called it silly. But trump had history on his side. Let me just tell you that dwies eisenhower moved a million and a half Illegal Immigrants out of this country, moved them just beyond the border. They came back. Moved them again, beyond the border. Dwight ice en eisenhower. You dont get nicer. You dont get friend leer. They moved a million and a half people out. Trevor yeah. And guess what, trump is absolutely laughter . Trevor right. Oh, except for two things. Eisenhower actually ended up deporting probably around 250,000 immigrants. And second, that program that donald trump loves so much was officially called operation wetback. No, no, no, dont judge. I know that name may seem crude, people. But theres something to be said for a policy that doesnt hide where its coming from. Yeah, its like if stop and frisk was called hey, what is in that black guys pocket. laughter applause its honest. I like that. And then mersfully at the end, it was time for the closing statement. The candidates chance to rally new supporters with their unique and uplifting vision. And here is the republican frontrunner. In the two hours of this debate, five people have died from drugrelated deaths. A hundred Million Dollars has been added to our national debt. 200 babies have been killed by abortionists. And two veterans have taken their lives out of despair. Trevor and the good news is, parents, in a few months hell be available for kids birthday parties. What do you say after that . How do you end i mean i dont even know what to say. Do you make a ben carson joke at parties. He says i dont does anyone else have a joke . I was in washington, iowa, about three months ago, talking about how bad washington d. C. Is, you get the kind of the anyway. Trevor well be right back. The beast was as long as the boat. For seven hours, we did battle. Until i said. You will not beat. Meeeeee greg. What should i do with your fish . Gary. Just put it in the cooler. 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Mmm that is tasty. Is it real . Of course. Are you . Nope animated you know im always looking for real honey for honey nut cheerios well youve come to the right place. Great, mind if i have another taste . Not at all mmm youre all right bud . Never better i dont know if he likes that. Yeah part of the complete breakfast trevor welcome back to the daily show. Now one thing most pundits agreed on on last nights Republican Debate is that it was much better than previous debates, partly due to the fact that it had more substance, which is true. Because [bleep] is also a substance. So to sort out the truth from the fiction, we turn to our senior political analyst desi lydic in our new segment called what the actual facts. Thanks, trevor. What a great night for all these candidates. They really said some things. laughter so lets get straight to the fun with the Economic Policy of dr. Ben carson. People need to be educated on the minimum wage. Every time we raised the minimum wage, the number of jobless people increases. Doesnt he just turn you on . laughter this statement is true. People do need to be educated on the minimum wage. Specifically you, dr. Ben carson. Cuz in the last 37 years the number of jobless people has decreased four times after a raise in the minimum wage. Im rating his statement as false. Or as dr. Ben carson calls it, autobiographical. laughter applause next up weve got. If putin wants to go in, and i got to know him very well because we were both on 60 minutes. We were stablemates. And we did very well that night. Oh. Trump is so cute. He thinks hes friends with putin because they were on a show together. Now techically trump and putin did appear on the same episode of 60 minutes. In two completely unrelated segments that were shot in different cities. laughter in different countries, on different continents. laughter so were going to class fie this one as wrong but adorable. Like a puppy snorting cocane. applause now even if trump had met putin on 60 minutes, karmee fiorina wouldnt have been impressed. I would not be talking to Vladimir Putin right now, although i have met him as well, not in a green room for a show, but in a private meeting. Carly says that unlike trump, she actually met putin. And this was in a private meeting and not in a green room. You met putin. I met him in beijing. We were in sort of a green room setting, actually. Sorry, carly. That is a video that actually exists. And since its such a weird thing to lie about, im giving that one a rachel d doseal. Plawtion plaws applause lets stay with miss fiorina on a more substantial claim she made last night. I think whats interesting about doddfrank is its a great example of how socialism starts. Socialism starts when government creates a problem and then government steps in to solve the problem. Government created the problem. Now this is a tricky one. Doddfrank does get the government involved in banking. But thats not actually how socialism starts. Socialism starts when you are your College Roommate goes off to venezuala for the summer and comes back with a nose ring and some crazy but really interesting ideas. The next thing you know you are arguing with your dad at thanksgiving and your mom is crying so you take the dodge out just to clear your head. You wind up in the neighborhood of your first boyfriend. E september now it has been turned into a strip mall so you park out in front of a Sporting Goods store. Listening to ted leo and smoking cloves thinking about what it all means. That is how socialism starts. applause im sorry, who is next . This country declared its independentance in 1776 and less than a hundred years it was the number one dmek power in the world. And economic power in the world. And the reason is because we had an atmosphere that encouraged entrepreneurial risktaking and capital investment. Now that is true, by 1872 the United States had the highest domestic economic output in the world. Thanks to what ben carson calls an atmosphere of entrepreneurial risktaking and investment. Which is a really nice way to describe slavery. Seriously, ben carson, what the actual fact . Trevor desi lydic, everyone. Well be right back. applause [ male announcer ] digiorno . Or delivery . Digiorno . Or delivery . Taste for yourself why the shortest distance between you and a delicious, freshbaked pizza, is your oven. Thankfully, its not delivery. Its digiorno. Coochie, coochi, coo t delivery. He so has your peanut butter. Well, hes got your jelly. Time for a feeding. No ah jam it crazy good carnie wilson. Thank you. Can you hold on . Hold on for one more day really . Hey, i know theres pain. Why do you lock yourself up in these chains . This would be so easy if you had progressive. 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And there is a debate between people who think that this will be like the past and set elevator down and go for the person they think is most electable or whether something is fundamentally different about the Republican Party and someone like donald trump or ben carson can. Trevor but people havent settled down. Dont worry, trevor, its summer madness. It happens every year. Ha, ha, ha, ha. And now guys are like hes still in the lead . Ha, ha, ha. Like its not changing. That is exactly right. And so that, i think, is an argument for what is happening now. The other thing that matters now, you have already seen, whatever ends up happening, this period of time has already knocked out two people. Scott walker and governor rick perry who would in another counter factual universe be plawsable nominees in the Republican Party. You dont think so. Trevor no, no, i was just picturing this universe. I was picturing all the things happening in the universe where they were the most that say strange thing to think about. Okay. So i watched the debates. I do not understand does the term debate, is it being used loosely now . Because i feel like its no longer a debate now, right. Its just a. Part of that is like saying im going to go play tennis with eight people. I mean, there is a certain. Trevor that sounds like a great game. Exactly. But it would be pretty messy. The point of a debate, debates are set up with a proand a con. A revolve or we think about lincolndouglas. There was just one lincoln and one douglas and they talked to each other. Its really unclear how you actually engineer a debate with ten or eight people that remotely is he resemmables an actual debate. Trevor why dont they have a knockout. There was an article the other day, this should be a series of oneonone. Trevor and you knock each other out, that would be entertaining. That should be better. I think it should be like march madness with brackets. And then we go, and you do oneonone. applause . Trevor i like your style. And do it quick. So its kasich, rand paul, oneonone. Trevor and you go and knock each other out. I think part of the problem now, it looks like they have so many candidates that its just noise now. There is nobody talking whereas on the democrat side, it seems like it is pretty smooth sailing. Because there is more time i really do think that is a big part of it. I also think at the risk of bias, i think there is a little more. Trevor which are you are by the way as liberal media. I am, i wear it proudly. Trevor i thought i should call out on that. I wear it proudly. I do think there is a little bit more desire for policy substance amongst the people paying attention at this point in the primary in the democratic field, if i can say that. Trevor you can. You have said it, you said it. You have said it. The accusations that the Mainstream Media is prodemocrat, antirepublican is one that is being, you know, i guess thrown out by the g. O. P. Right now. You are part of that machine. You are the Mainstream Media. Is that how it works . Is the Mainstream Media democrat all the time and are they antirepublican. How does that . I would say, im sort of out im part of the Mainstream Media, but my view point is pretty clear. I think what people dont like is when they feel their biases at work that are unannounced. I think the Mainstream Media is biased but not in any partisan way. I think there are certain biases we have. We have bias towards spectacle. We have bias toward someone just blew something up. Lets go cover that. 100,000 people marched for someth