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CSPAN Capitol Hill Hearings December 21, 2012

Similar to one that received 53 democratic votes in the u. S. Senate only two years ago and the spending reduction saket serious start toward reducing our deficit and protecting our National Security. Abs president a balanced offer from the president this is our best option and Senate Democrats should take up both of these measures immediately. The president has a choice mr. Speaker, he can support these measures or be responsible for reckless spending and the largest tax hike in american history. And i yield back. Thank you mr. Speaker, what is unbalance sd the republican package that we see on the floor today. We already talked about the numbers of the republican plan b tax proposal which compared to going over the fiscal cliff and the senate alternative would actually provide millionaires with a 50,000 tax cut on average while 25 million American Families will actually see a tax increase of 1,000 on average, including, mr. Speaker, some of our soldiers on the front line in afghanistan today. And majority leader talked about doing the math. Do the math on the tax plan because thats exactly what it shows, what the president has called for is a balanced plan that asks for the wealthiest to share the burden of our deficit challenge and make sure that we get our economy in full gear. Wand that i yield to mr. Levin. The gentleman from michigan. I did not know i would follow the distinguished majority leader. I just want to say i mostly want to talk about plan c but for him or anybody else to come on the floor and say the president hasnt proposed spending cuts, it isnt true and it undercuts the necessary level of trust to find Common Ground. That kind of a statement should not be made. I said in the rules committee for three hours, participated for two last night. There was no reference to plan c. And it came up just a few minutes secretly before midnight. The purpose of plan c is to try to get votes for plan b twn republican conference. And what it does is to undermine the Affordable Care act by eliminating the protections and it would result in the loss of Health Insurance coverage for 420,000 people. It would repeal the block grant, is social Services Block grant, services for millions of americans and it wasnt machine years ago when chairman camp wrote ssg has been a key source of funding of Flexible Funding for critical social services. So now in a separate effort to find votes for plan b, you turn your back and finally it would harm millions of low income families and their kids. The estimate is it would affect 1 million families and more than 3 million kids. Searching for votes for plan b i think is abomb nabble. May i inquire how much time i have . You have 17. 5 minutes and mr. Ryan has 15. 5. I would yield a minute and a half to mr. Ran druse from new jersey. Mr. Speaker the republican majority needs to do what americans do every day in labor negotiations and Real Estate Office was and other places around this country and thats to negotiate rather tham simply restate their position. The president asked for higher tax rates on income above a quarter of a Million Dollars and he have compromised and moved it up to 400,000. The president started with a spending cut and moved it up to 1. 2 trillion. And he included within that a very controversial proposal dealing with Social Security increases. The president has compromised. The republicans once again are simply regurg dating their same old position. A tax provision that has a 50,000 cut for millionaires and a tax increase for 25 million working families including Service Members and their children. A proposal that cuts jobs on transportation projectses, daycare centers, Nursing Homes across the country. We should stop wasting our time on one side bills, follow the president s lead, lift our sights higher and negotiate. That is the way out of this and i would urge my friends on the majority side to stop pontificating and start negotiating. I yield back. The gentleman from wisconsin. Follow the president s lead. I wish he were leading. The gentleman from michigan said hes offered all these specifics. I wish. So where are they . We hear numbers, we see budget and accounting tricks but we dont see specifics. We have yet to see a specific solution. Hes claimed he wants to cut spending. We havent seen a specific spending cut proposal from the president. Thats the problem. With that mr. Speaker id like to yield three minutes to mr. Lewis from oklahoma. Debate from earlier this evening just before the passage of the bill that the house gaveled out about an hour ago and they met in coverage about 20 minutes ago and that has broken up with the news there will be no vote tonight on Speaker Boehners plan b. He says the house did not take up the tax ub measure today because it did not have enough votes to pass. Now its up to the president to work with senator reid to avoid the fiscal cliff. With responsible spending cuts that will begin to address your nations crippling debt the house must act now. We understand that the house will go home for christmas and Speaker Boehner has left the building so there will be no vote tonight on Speaker Boehners plan b, the bill that would have tax increases on those making over a million only. We open our phone lines on the results of the republicans failing to move forward on plan b. Well also take a look at our facebook page, not our facebook page, our fiscal cliff page and well try to read some of those tweets. Well go to minneapolis a democratic call. Lets go to michael. Im just calling to say the president of the United States won the election. I know there are a lot of republicans and conservatives who are not necessarily happy with that. But he won, youve got a Senate Majority democrat, the president is democrat. Theyve got 1 3 on the republican side. Have you to concede the president went up to 400,000 for the tax cuts. Or for the tax increase. Do the republicans in any way consider what any of this will do to the disadvantage to people who are on the margin paying their mortgage. I dont care if you make 20,000 or 75,000, youre house is fully mortgaged and youre on the edge. The media is playing this as a game and everything and its talked about what the potential outcome could be. Again the news the plan b vote on plan b will not happen. The house gaveling out and looks like they are done for the evening. The reporters covering said there will be no vote. One of those report sers russ sell burrman of the hill. After boehner spoke mike kelly of pennsylvania took the microphone and said what are you guys doing . How the hell can you do this to the speaker. Lets go to indiana on the republican line. The only thing i dont understand about all of this is how can they stand to go home for the holidays with a clear conscience . They are leaving a lot of people hanging and they dont seem to care one way or the other. I dont know, i dont know how they can go home with a clear conscience for the holidays. The debt ceiling for 2011 creted the fiscal cliff moment, barber ra tax cuts will go away, tax rates will rise on Capital Gains and state taxes as well. Whats in addition to that too it appears the automatic spending cuts will take place, thats 50 billion from military spending and 50 billion from other spending. My comment is the democrats keep saying that the republicans want to take free lunch away from the children and want to cut this and that. All the republicans are wanting people to do is for people to qualify to get free lunch at school. I work for a gentleman that made over 60,000 a year and his children got free lunch at school. Why cant democrats snand that 400,000 is nothing nowadays. There are millions of businesses in this country that have to pay taxes just like its earned income if you make over theres millions of them that make a Million Dollars. Why do you want to raise taxes on those people. That president of ours doesnt understand economics at all. All he wants to do is tax more so we can spend more. If we can get 3 more in this country getting checks every month, then we can forget this country. Speaker boehner pulling the plan b vote this evening citing a lacking of member support. On our democrats line. Caller yes im calling and i just heard the man talking about the taxes and stuff paying i worked for 30 something years and paid into this and the majority of people who have paid into this. What about those people that have paid tax and healthcare all their life. And the majority of the money is stonet a war that wasnt even supposed to be and they took all that money and now they still wants to get more money for people on the ground thats not even necessary and they say they are not even asking for money. On the military they did pass the defense thorsization conference report. We understand the senate will not take that up until sometime tomorrow afternoon. Unsure as of now what time the senate will be in tomorrow. Obviously when they come in you can follow that on cspan2. Going to georgia to jim, an independent. There caller this is jimmy and what i want to talk about there is all these republicans and democrats and all they talk about all this budget and stuff they didnt have anything to do with. The republicans theirself during the bush years and all like that, they run up the deficit there and turned around and handed two wars over to a democratic president and they act like they didnt have nothing to do with it. They are the ones that is getting all the free stuff. They are getting free insurance, free food, free everything, free travel. When they fly up there, the bonus points they get for flying, i heard one guy from georgia talk like it was a big deal, like he was going to give it to the military families. He didnt give nothing. We paid for all that flying he done and most of the time they aint dog nothing when he gets there. They act like they are doing something and they arent doing nothing. They are a bunch of communist as far as im concerned. Eric cantor issued a statement the house has concluded legislative business for the week. They will return after the Christmas Holiday when needed. Democratic caller marcus, go ahead. Caller i appreciate you taking my call cspan, Great Program and appreciate you following the political news. Id like to start out with the political hiphop that these representatives are going through. It seems to me they just want to stay in the limelight and keep their names out in the public. They want to make the news psych ms. They want to be super stars instead of doing the peoples business quietly and professionally. Like the congress of the old. You very seldom had these psych wls so much political debate going on in this country. But to the caller earlier that suggested that most Small Businesses make 1 million a year. That was a great compromise by the president. Ask your local flower shop or local drugstore owner or local buetigs if they make a Million Dollars a year. They dont make anywhere close. When we talk about Small Business, you have to talk about Small Business, local owned businesses. Most renters that have property dont make 250,000 a year. It sound like you may be a Small Business owner is that the case . Im an independent contractor so i dont make close to 50,000 ayear. This hoopla about 90 are going to get tax increase. 95 of Small Business will not be affected by a 400,000 increase for anyone making above that let alone a 250,000 increase. We will continue to take your calls. Speaker boehner has called plan b from debate and they have gone home for christmas and they are done for the evening. We are taking calls from viewers. Boehner lost control of his caucus and pulled his bill from the docket. This has been the story of Speaker Boehner since 2011, a man who cant get his own people to follow. Some of the views of our viewers. To des moines iowa we go to our independent line. Caller i do have a quick question, my wife and i have been a Small Business owner for the last two and a half years which we did close our coffee shop in des moines back in january. Ive ran for the iowa house twice. I have a quick question, how can i as an individual and the rest of america, with the help of cspan, find out how each representative or senator feels and votes for this, this plan that the speaker put forth or the plan a as we call it . I think they will come together. But if they dont, how do we know how do we, the American People, know who is against this and who is for it . Because there are a lot of people in america that really want to know this. I give you one resource and the link may be there i see it under web resources, this is our home page but on cspan. Org fiscal cliff. Im not sure how tchaurnt is. Sometimes it takes a day or two to happen but i bet if you search through there it will be there. On our republican line. Caller i think that the fact that it rorgly was up for debate in the beginning and back and forth between the president and Speaker Boehner it shows no one wants to take responsibility. He is the president and i dont think preck or Ronald Reagan would have let us go off the fiscal cliff. Im sure they dont hold president obama responsible at all for all the investments that were made into Renewable Energy sources that came out with zero return. No one holds him responsible for that. No matter what we do with the fiscal cliff, these investments are going to continue on and there will be no return on interest. I think were going over the cliff and i think the markets have predicted its not going to be as big as everyone thinks its going to be. Thank you for taking my call. A tweet does house melt down mean we go over the cliff one member tells me no but the deal that is being pieced together wont be pretty. Host our republican line. Caller i hope this is an indication they are going to dump boehner. They need to go the way Rush Limbaugh thinks. They negotiate to fight this obama if guy. I think it was stolen by massive voter fraud in the swing states. They totally snub ron paul and lost all those potential votes. Thats my opinion and i hope we get rid of boehner. Host if its not boehner, who would be the leader you would look for the speaker of the house . Caller id want to here what Rush Limbaugh or grover nor quist would say about that. Host grover said earlier in the week they did not consider this plan b to allow tax rates to rise for those making a million or more. That the americans for tax reform did not consider that going against the tax pledge. Lets go to democratic caller. Go ahead. Caller good evening sir. Im an american citizen. Im young. Im only 24 and ive been watching cspan over the past few months. Avend basically im going to get into saying something that we as american citizens, yes we have freedom of speech. But we have no right to publicly dishonor the president or the speaker of the house, whether they be democrat or republican, it doesnt matter. You have no right. You give them their respect and thats it. What i also want to say is for the speaker of the house boehner, no, i am a democrat but i respect him. Because when i see him on tv, hes a man of great stat chure and seems like a noble person. Hes somebody that knows something. Speaker boehner pulling his plan b saying the house did not take up the tax measure today because it did not have sufficient support to pass. The house is out until after christmas. The senate is in tomorrow. They have to finish up a bit of work for the Defense Authorization bill. Lets go to our republican line. Caller thank you for taking my call. Admit moving his threshold to 400,000 showed willing to compromise. Take the tax increase. Take the taxes off the table. Basically his proposals are a drop in the bucket of what it is going to do to the deficit ceiling here. Basically take it off the table. Say okay, fine, we will accept the tax increases and you basically hold them to some sort of accountable. Say in two years here are the goals have you to reach f. Not go back to our plan which is the entitlements have to be cut significantly. The 400,000 level is still on the table in terms of the conversation between the Speakers Office and the white house. Yet the other side of that is the republicans today made a specific point that they are saying that the president s offer did not include any substa tive budge cuts. What do you say to that . He wants to increase the unemployment another year and add in a billion stimulus. But they keep harping on the taxes. Fine. Let us eliminate the tax part of the question so there is no more arguing about it and then well see what our deficit is and what is there throast argue about. Host i asked that caller earlier who if its not john boehner who is the best party to lead the house . Caller i have confidence in boehner. Host still, after tonight . Caller boehner has got a really tough choice with his Tea Party Members to get them to budge. And you can tell that hes passionate about this country and putting us on the right path. I dont think to get to that point of thinking who is next, i still have confidence in his leadership. Host lets here from today on our democrats line. Caller im watching the debate and the conversation that was going on earlier. The Republican Party which claims itself as the Family Values Party is quite willing to allow millions of people to roll off of their own financial cliff just so that we can maintain, not just a lower tax rate for people who are making a great deal of money, lets call it what 400,000 is, a great deal of money. And

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