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CSPAN Climate Change Skeptics August 23, 2014

So we will have an initial skepticism. But we need to make sure it is justified. Lets make sure we are destroying the planet before we start destroying our economy and our way of living. We certainly respect and welcome all perspectives and that should be the case on all sides of the debate. It is not just left and right. It is interesting how so many folks that are Global Warming skeptics come from environmental activist brack grounds background. I consider myself an environmentalist. I do travel quite a bit and every chance i get, when i travel, i want to go out. I want to see the lay of the land. I want to go hiking through the forest. I want to experience the beauty we have in this country and make sure we are good stewards of it. However, it does not mean we will just jump on board for every asserted environmental crisis. Like i mentioned earlier, we want to see the proof in the pudding before we jump on board. It takes courage if you are concerned about the environment to critically examine some of the assertions, some of the empire mental activist assertions. Sometimes you the environmental activist assertions. I am going to stand up for the truth. I am proud and honored to introduce a man who has done that throughout his life and continues today. Dr. Patrick moore has been a leader in the International Environmental field for over 30 years. He is a Founding Member of greenpeace and served for nine years in greenpeace canada, seven years of director greenpeace international. As the leader of many campaigns, dr. Moore was a driving force, shaping policy and direction while greenpeace became the largest environmental activist organization. In recent years, he has worked on consensusbuilding. As chair of the sustainable for street committee, he leads the process of developing the principles of sustainable for street which have been advocated by a majority of the industry. It is my pleasure to introduce to you dr. Patrick moore. [applause] thank you. Good morning everyone. Thank you for inviting me here to give my opinion on the subject of Climate Change. This was my home for my first 14 years, a small logging camp on the northwest tip of an Hoover Island on the rainforest by the pacific. I did not know how lucky i was. I was sent off to vancouver for boarding school and then to the university of British Columbia to study life sciences. In 1960, before the world was known to the general public, i discover the science of ecology, how all things are interrelated and how people are related to them. In the mid1960s, at the height of the vietnam war, the height of the cold war, and the threat of allout nuclear war and the growing concern for the environment, i was transformed into a radical environmental i cant seem to get it to go that way anymore. I found myself in a Church Basement with a Like Minded Group planning a protest voyage against u. S. Hydrogen bomb testing in alaska. We proved that a rag tag looking bunch could sale a leaky old boat across the pacific and change the course of history. That turned out to be the last Hydrogen Bomb the United States every detonated. President nixon canceled the remaining tests due to the overwhelming opposition. We were welcomed near my northern vancouver home where they made us runners of the tribe. For this began for green piece the tradition of the woreors of the rainbow. Its after a cree legend that says qun day when the sky falls back the people around the world will join together to save the earth. We named our ship the Rainbow Warrior and i spent the next 15 years on the full Time Movement around the world. Next, we took on french atmospheric in the pacific. France was still detonated hydrogen booms in the early 1970s, sending radiation around the world. They were a little more difficult. It took some years to drive these tests underground. In 1985 under the president , french commander bombed and sank ed the boat, killing our photographer. Going back again to the 1970s, here i am driving a small rubber boat in the North Pacific in 1975. We confronted the whalers putting ourselves in front of the harpoons and our boats to rotect the fleeing whales whales. Just four years later, factory whaling was banned in the North Pacific and eventually in all of the world oceans. Here im sitting on a baby seal to protect it from the hunters. I was arrested and hauled off to javepl. The seal was clubbed and skinned but this picture appeared in over 3,000 newspapers around the world the next morning. This eventually brought changes to the way canada manages its seal. By the mid 1980s, weve grown. President s hand prime ministers now spoke of the environment on a regular basis. But for me it was tyke to make a change. I have been against at least three or four things daver of my life for 15 years. I decided it was time to try and figure out what i was in favor of. I made the transition from the politics of confrontation which is basically about telling people what they should stop doing to the telling people what we should do instead. 27 billion people wake up every morning on this planet what real needs for food and energy and material. Sustainability is partly continuing to provide for those needs. Maybe getting a little more food and energy for people in the developing world, while at the same time constantly striving to educe the negative impact. I can go on forever but thats my story from the early years. [applause] why did i leave green piece after 15 years . When i began with green piece, we had a strong humanitarian orientation to stop nuclear war, to save civilization from destruction. By the time i left 15 years later, green piece had drifted into a position along with the rest of the movement as characterizing humans as the enemies of the earth and that was not for me. We are part of nature and from nature. Greenpeace also begin to adopt positions i didnt agree with from a scientific point of view. Ban chlorine worldwide became one of the slogans. It didnt matter i was trying to convince them that chlorine is the most important element in medicine, which it is. Adding it to drirvinging water and 75 of our synthetic pharmaceuticals are chlorine based chemistry. Anyway, i had to leave because of that. Look at them today in the philippines with a mask on in a parade, golden rice and they are associated with death in order to scare parents about something that can actually prevent their children from dying by hundreds of thousands and millions every year. So, thats where grean peace went and i didnt wanting to there. I just tell you about forests for one second because its the most important thing and it has a lot to do with climate. What is the most important renew wood is the most important renewable material and energy in world and it is the most my old friends in greenpeace are opposed to the most important renewable resource in the world, wood. We should be growing more trees and using more wood. Many activists argue we should cut fewer trees and use less wood. But this is the correct environmental point of view. Look at what greanpeast does to this. To take them 38 bureaucratic words to say it. Thats what they call trees. While producing an annual sustained yield of timber, fiber or energy from the forest will generate the largest sustained mitigation benefit, means the best thing to do. In other words, theyre saying use trees instead of using steel and concrete wherever you can and you will reduce Energy Consumption and youll be using something renewable. Greenpeace says they the easiest way and cheapest way to fight is to leave trees standing. When i challenged this, the greenpeace person said i didnt mean to put quotes around it, i was just paraphrasing. But thats a lie too. It isnt a paraphrase. The idc is saying grow more trees and use more words. Six words. [applause] you know it all. Its extremely likely the human influence has been the dominant cause extremely likely does it make it more likely to put the word extremely in front of likely . They say yeah. They say that means 99 could very likely 90 , so they put s along with adjectives to go along with likely. What it turns actually this is not a scientific word at all, likely. In the i. P. C. C. Report it says its an export judgment in the same paragraph. An expert judgment is not a fact, it is an opinion. This is an opinion. So let them have their opinion. But they should make it clear hat its an opinion. This is when the Global Warming petition project 31,000 scientists and professionals all from the out. This isnt even a international list. I put my faith in the late Michael Creighton who said im certain theres too much certainty in the world. [laughter] this is where this certainty that they are right comes in and you cannot say youre certain that youre right when someone who is in authority says its extremely likely. That isnt certainty. We all know about this. From here im going to show you what i show people because you all mostly know this. First, yes, co 2 is increasing in the atmosphere. Lets look at the last billion years. There is actually three and a half billion years of Climate Change before this. We know pretty well this is what happened over the last billion. Its generally been warmer than it is today. 22 degrees average global temperature has been the norm. There have been four and a half ice ages during this period of thyme where temperature plummets on average down to 12 or 10 degrees celsius global average. Today the global average is 14. 5 degrees celsius. We are in a ice age, thats why both poles are covered in ice. People dont understand dont understand we are in an ice age now. It is generally a cold time in terms of the earths history. Why are there 300 Million People in the United States and only 30 Million People in canada . One word, cold. [laughter] sometimes i think thats why you et us have it. You saw this graph yesterday in a different format. 600 million years since modern light emerged. It shows very clearly theres no lock step correlation between co 2 and global temperature. At times they seem to be moving in similar direction. In other words, there seems to be correlation sometimes but as you know, correlation doesnt prove causation and you need to see a lot more of a lost relationship. It seems that temperatures bounded on the top and bottom probably got a lot of feedback forces that are creating a maximum and minimum and were in one of those minimums right now. It shows right there for example that now its 14. 5 c and co 2 is about 400. Over the last 600 million years has been around 2,000. About four to five times higher than it is today. Thats why grean house growers purposely put the exhaust from their gas or woo heaters into the green house to increase growth by as much as 100 . So we can look forward to increasing product you havity in agriculture as many of you know. This is the graph if you accept this is true which is something that is like true because it has been warming for the last 100 years or so. They said weve been the dominant cause since the mid 20th century. Thats 1950. Nrds, they do not ascribe the rising temperature to human caused emissions. Because we werent emitting much back then. They only say its the part between 1970 and the year 2000 that was caused by humans. Then what caused the rise in temperature between 1910 and 1940 because it is identical in duration and size,. 4 degrees over 30 years. They are both the same. It is not logical to be extremely likely that the second one is caused by us and the first one is caused by something else, which they dont really say what it is. So this to me demonstrates logical fallacy of claiming that we are the dominant cause of glaurm Global Warming. Many of you have seen this. There has been no increase in global temperature for 17 years and 10 months and running. And then here is the United States for the last 10 years, the temperature has actual think declined by a significant amount. And this that polar vortex has something to do with this. No, i forget. That was warming. I shouldnt make that mistake again. And here, of course, is the arcic sea which has right now is arctic sea which is nearly a million square kilometers below its average since 1979 when we first started measuring it from a satellite. We have no idea what the extent of Arctic Sea Ice was before them. But somehow or mother someone got there with a wooden boat in 1904. And a canadian ship got there in 1942 or 4 with a small engine, without a big icebreaker. Who knows what it was like back then during the heat wave of the 1930s into the 1940s. Here is the Southern Ocean where if you take the difference between the ant arctic and the arctic thousand is now nearly ore miles this is the sum total apparently this is also due to Global Warming, the increasing exextent in the ant arctic. So i get it, every thing is due. O Global Warming its funny but our children are not taught logic. They are not taught what the Scientific Method is and they are taught that carbon is pollution. Oh, carbon die oxide, sorry. Theyre told its carbon now as if it was soot. This is sea livel rise post glaceyation. It all occurred between 16,000 and 17,000 years ago when the uge low alttude mid latitude glaciers all disappeared. And since then its been a very slow gradual rise as more of the ice that was left in high mountains and the poles melts a little more, too. You saw this yesterday. This is tropical Hurricane Energy worldwide. Al gore knows about this yet he continues to say it is going to be a devastation of the earth from massive hurricanes. No such thing. And you know this is the longest period in the history of measuring hurricanes since a category three or larger hurricane hit the continental United States. Right now today is the longest period weve known. That one even the ipcc oes not sub scribe they say there is no evidence of an increase in extreme weather events related to the warming that has occurred. Yet, the whole bunch of them perpetuate that every extreme weather event is because of us. This is why we will never be able to predict the future of the climate other than about three days out as john coleman who is coming up soon will probably tell you he knows. Its because of clouds, water the most important Green House Gas is the only one that occurs f both liquid and gas yuss phase in the atmosphere. Water vapor with behaves in a incompletely different way with regard to solar energy. Clouds can reflect the sun back. They can hold the heat in, depending on where they are and how thick they are. What computer model can predict the pattern of clouds in the world . Its impossible. That is why we will never be able to predict the future of climate and clouds are the wild card. Many people believe as the earth warms and more water evaporates off the sea it will be cloudier and wetter and that will reflect more sunlight back. A t is just as plausible hypothesis as the fry in hell that we keep getting from the alarmist. Co 2 is the most important nutrient for all life on earth. Please teach the children this. [applause] when we started emitting co 2 it was down. Now its at 400. If it had gone down by the same amount as weve caused it to go up, plants would have started dying because plants start dying the reasons co 2 has fluctuate is because when the plants start dying they emit the co 2 and then it gets better again. So weve been skipping alon on top of this low point for co 2 for a long thyme now and its about time somebody did something about it. [applause] the father of the guy high podgesess was an extreme pessimist about climate. He has changed his mind. He realized that if gaya is one great organism that maybe were doing her bidding. Its like carlin said the reason people came into existence is the he earth wants reason people came into existence is because the atmosphere wants a little more carbon die oxide for the plant. Who knows. of f world energy 8 of world y 88 nergy. They want to stop this 88 of world Energy Produced by fossil fuels, and especially the part where oil is involved where there really arent many subs tuesday because thats transportation, getting the food into the stores. 20 . Lectric produces theyre against wood, the most renewable in the world and theyre against hydro. Of all p to about 85 the Renewable Energy in the world and theyre against it, even though its reliable and Cost Effective. Thankfully we buy enough flat screens from those guys that they could afford to build it without the world bank. And they did. Replaces 40 coal fire power plants. It stops floods from killing thousands of people downstreams and it allows people to irrigate twice as much land of sustainable development. [applause] canada, we up north get 60 of our electricity from hydro. When the oil and coal and gas becomes scarce, this is what were going to have to use. There is no question of that in my mind. So lets work on making it even safer than it is which is already safer than any other major Energy Technology we have. 21 countries producing 15 . This used Nuclear Field they want to dump in nevada is actually one of our most important sources. The russians have two of them. They just sold two to china last year. This is where we go. But we got lots of coal and oil and gas right now and its cheaper, so maybe it will take a while. In 300 years from now, all of the fishing products will be decade and it will be just the good stuff left so it wont matter if it takes 300 years before we start using that, but there is 5,000 worth of Nuclear Energy in the 50 years of waste, socalled that we produced. Nuclear and hydroare the only Energy Sources that can effectively replace fossil fuels if thats what youre worried about. These are too expen

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