Tim, what is your last word of . Dvice well, i am not sure i have any advice, other than, perhaps, to say that there are realities in the world that we live in, which are such that we increasingly need to think about Global Health as intimately linked to our health locally, and i think that means that you not only have to be concerned with the issues that confront us directly and proximately, close to our neighborhoods, but we also have to be as concerned elsewhere,onditions because we are increasingly therefore,ted, and our role in trying to make sure we move towards that principle of valuing equally the lives, wherever they may be lived, is extremely important, a value to see embodied in all forms of governance, and thank you. Tim . As you said, this washington, d. C. Sophisticated audience, because something may seem insurmountable, do not give up. Just because it cannot be done not bet mean it will done. Back in 2002, everyone thought africa would be the fall off the face of the earth with hiv aids, and the program was put together, and people were saying you can never ever get africans to take medicines. You will never get them to lives aate into their daily medication that could save them or prevention, and then they came along and has completely transformed the lives of millions of people throughout health andso global addressing the disparities is something that will take a long time, but if you use that as an example, i think we should be is possible. At it this is a celebration of your work. You get the last word. It is always a good place to pick up on. Some days i get up and am more inspired, but other days i get up and say it is overwhelming. It is useless, but i am saying what you just said. Never give up. We actually can do it. End with we would just camu, and i am paraphrasing, but he said pathogens just come in common, us just come and come us, and we are wildly surprised. Why do we jump from crisis to crisis, from haiti to the to ebola . Sars isnt it obvious . It is affordable. It is doable, so lets just do it. [applause] all for joining us. I want to thank all of the speakers, and i particularly want to congratulate larry, so please join me. So thank you. [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] washingtonext journal, a preview of the house and senate races with Nathan Gonzalez and jessica taylor. Also it is discussion of the influence of the terror group eigh. In syria with karen l as always we will take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. Cspan campaign 2014 debate coverage continues sunday, with North Carolina incumbent senator kay hagan and her republican opponent tom tillis, followed by racealifornia governor between jerry brown and neil kari. Cspan, more than 100 debates for the control of congress. Onnext a discussion combating corruption and human rights abuses around the world. It was hosted by the state departments euro of home human rights. From the world bank and groups Like Transparency International and Global Financial integrity attended. It is an hour and 10 minutes. Thanks, everybody. Welcome to the opengov hub. For those who have not been here before, where you are sitting is a hub for organizations that work for transparency. Those who have not been here before those who have been, welcome back. In the interest of time, i will try to go quickly through my talking points. I am the executive director of global integrity, one of the groups that work here at the hub. On behalf of the panel, the u. S. State department, i want to. Elcome everyone this event is sponsored by the state department in close collaboration with the world bank, global integrity, transparency international. We will have brief opening remarks by each panelist. Then i believe a dialogue with questions from me to the panel in response to their presentations and then i will open the floor to the people here and listeners online. There is a whole Team Monitoring on twitter. For those of you out in the please submit teofrights,sing sta which is already being used. Ascertainly use that as soon you can. Im sure everyone here knows, topic of human rights, government transparency. Been a fan from afar. I am real tickled to have you here today. [laughter] not actually tickling. I will start with you, tom, just to kick us off. Let me turn to you, and then we will go to the others. Thank you so much, nathaniel, thanks to all of you for coming out and participating in this discussion. I think we have a big audience. I think there is a viewing party at a viewing arty and out mania. I want to say hello to all of you out there, everybody else. In answer to your question, for countries that keep me up at night, human rights and corruption are the same issue. These are not different, interlocking things. They are the same issue. You are forced to pay to protect yourself any market, for whoch businessman in russia exposes tax fraud and gets murdered for it, you are confronting exactly the same problem, and if you look at authoritarian regimes around the centralorruption is a operating principle. It is the reason a lot of power in theng to first place. You have to be corrupt to be in the inner circle. It gives your master something to hold over you if you ever turn disloyal. And as we have seen so many times, it is an issue around which people who fight for democracy and human rights rally the pub with around like absolutely no other whether it is egypt or tunisia or russia or burma. Is what causes, over all other issues, popular protest in favor of democracy, rule of law, and accountable government. It struck us when the Obama Administration also focusing on corruption was one of the most effective ways to counter human rights abuses of democratic regimes. For a number of reasons. Number one, there is no excuse for corruption in any political culture or society. Everyone claims to be against it. There are regimes that do have excuses for arresting journalists or shutting on the internet are doing a lot of nolanterrible things, but excuseuse no one can people. Opposition tends to be a unifying factor among the populations dictators tried to divide. Whether you are the sunni or shia in bahrain, this is something that brings you together. Northernou are nigerian or southern nigerian, this brings you together. Nationalist, liberals and russia , they are all offended by the corruption of the putin government. The worldople around recognize International Action against corruption is something ist is legitimate, it corrupt and it flows through the International Banking system. Russia, Public Opinion polls have consistently shown that tendordinary governments imposeery happy when we sanctions on corrupt, powerful people who move their money to, say, the french riviera. This is something we have been looking very carefully at in the administration. There is a great deal we have been doing, our allies and partners have been doing. I think we have all noticed that at a time, some of the methods and tools we have in place to deal with corrupt, authoritarian leaderships around the world and to act more like departure for foreign leaders. We have someone like yanukovich in ukraine who is on his way out the door. Things wea lot of could talk about. Getting her own act in order, in terms of Beneficial Ownership legislation, making it harder for people to set up Shell Companies in the United States, being able to more effectively counter that in other jurisdictions. Other banks when we detected the flow of money all theo corruption, way to assistance to Civil Society organizations that are combating this at the grass roots. Emerge youll see this at an even higher level. Super. Tom, thank you. Let me turn to the senior policy director at transnational usa. He is a regular fixture in the community on these issues. Feel free to dive into these slides. Thank you. Welcome. Thank you to my copanelists and others taking part in this discussion. As you know, my organization but corruption in business, government, and International Development and we have learned that the fight against corruption is part of the fight for human rights. , if you have [indiscernible] there are many statistics about corruption my copanelist might copanelists might be giving. Lost by corruption every year would be enough to feed the world 80 times over. Wow. 80 times over. I have slides. I have these examples. I thought this would be a little than just me talking. Lets start with india. I dont know how many of you have heard about the commonwealth thing. India andere held in they were meant to show india as a Rising Economic power. Did anything, they other than that. They were part of many corruption scandals. Almost all of the contracts were inflated. The work done was very poor quality. The games cost nine times more than what was originally addition, it and in 150 workers died in the construction. And a majority were working for less than three dollars a day. Lets go to nigeria. Is rich in natural resources. It is africas riches were dutch producer it is africas riches to reduce her of oil. Thertunately, most of country lives in absolute poverty and in nigeria the infant mortality rate is nearly three times that of [indiscernible] on what the assistant secretary said and talk about state actors, ukraine is a country that has been much in the news recently. Ukraines new Prime Minister this is when the average monthly salary of the ukrainian hundred 50. You see the pictures of nanticoke whichs palatial estate. Yanukovichs palatial estate. But this is because of Shell Companies and facilitating corruption. In addition to that, i would like to point out how it is difficult to recover what is stolen. There are allegations that hosni millions and millions from egypt. Some estimates go as high as 70 70 billion. Only one billion or 2 billion have been traced. [indiscernible] [laughter] for those who do not know, the coordinator of the initiative is the world bank. In some ways the essential global loo that holds a lot of this together. Essential global glue that holds a lot of this together. They said, yeah, we will help you avoid the hague on corruption if you help us get the money back. [laughter] [indiscernible] only kidding. To discuss those issues. Let me ring a bit about the world bank. First, obviously there is the issue with corruption itself and the government. You raise that. The most perfect example we have a the moment is the one of tunisia. The bank recently leased a paper family endedoyal up controlling 30 of the tunisian economy. You have the ability of officials to control that amount of the economy. What to do about it . Between 20imate is billion and 40 billion per year come out of these countries. [indiscernible] i think what is beyond that is the sense of impunity. In this situations, clearly the social contract is at stake. To start, we are looking with the angle of that. The issue is what to do with it. We estimate 40 billion is a killing. Billion was recovered and 2 billion is lost. There is a huge gap. [indiscernible] so we all need to do more. The point earlier by tom. This only works as global action. It is about government. It is about Financial Centers need to do more. They need to do nor to do more. [indiscernible] difficult. Only so muchre is you can do. Bethink that much more can done. Be a cornerstone in recovery. Ctual we have one player in this, the Financial Sector, what is the role of the Financial Sector. Are really making efforts. Still, i do not think there is in a focus on the Financial Sector side on what they can do and how the camper to dissipate. Then there is the role of civilian society. Government perspective, look at it in terms of [indiscernible] done onmore could be the Asset Recovery side of it. The countrys push for more investigation, more cases to be open. The second part is about detection. We have seen examples. Ist we have seen emerging society engaging, and this is another opportunity to force action and criminal justice and prosecution of people. Inky. Thank you. At last, but not least, heather love, from the center for local integrity. Not global integrity. Even though we get some goals for each other on a daily basis. You very much. Really pleased to be here. Thanks to everyone in cyberspace around the world. Is exciting to have an opportunity to talk to you and hopefully get some questions and get a discussion going. Based for organization here in bce and we are best known for our numbers on a listed financial flows. We estimate that some 850 leaves to 1 trillion developing economies in a listed financial flows every year. That is a devastating at devastating amount of money. That is money that could be working within a developing economy. That is money that could be taxed to create nested revenue. It is also money that could be escaping or leaving or being transferred from governments proper to government treasuries. This is a really huge problem. And it is absolutely a driver of, essentially, poverty around the world. Based onumbers are world bank data, imf data, publicly available data, and you can look at what we do and how we do it in a reports. But really it is sort of broken down into two sections. Figuresell 20 of that in just money that is disappearing from the Global Economy we cant tell exactly how, but some ways that happens is things like rides that may be paid out in one place, but not recorded in another, or money taken out of government treasuries. Wireer is lets see transfers. International wire transfers that are sent, but disappear in the International Financial system. That is about 20 of the number. What is the other 80 . The other 80 based on the datasets we use is something mist invoicing. That is when the invoice for International Trade and goods does not match up on either side of that transaction. That is a really interesting concept. We are just talking about global trade. People say, oh, that is trade, whatever. There are only three situations where you would have this. The first is tax evasion. Substanceat is evasion, income tax evasion, basic innovation. The second is where youre trying to disguise the movement of illicit money flowing around the world. Youre actually using trade to cover up that transaction. Your coming playing the proceeds f bribery, drug crimes, etc. So it does not appear to have been moved. The third, of course, is human error. People do make mistakes. They do show up in invoices. They do not show up to the tune of 800 billion in the Global Economy, however. I think we can discount that. That is what we have, and 80 20 split. I would think most people would think the 20 , most of what goes into the 20 , the bribe payments he would see, money moving from government treasuries that is what we traditionally think of as corruption, right . That is our definition. What about that 80 , that trade related stuff . Is that corruption . Of a live debate right now. I think a lot of people are talking about it. Actually, the assistant will refer totate some of the financial interlinkages between corruption, human rights, and actually moving your trade around the world. That is certainly a lot of debate. If you step back and look at the definition of corruption not the legal definition, because that is very narrow at the accepted definition of what corruption is, you come up with integrity, moral perversion. And to be corrupt is to be guilty of dishonest that,. Acking integrity, crooked im pretty sure that all of the that taxet evasion part, covering up the thatent of illicit money, falls pretty squarely in that definition of corruption, right . Thate do not think of it way. And when we addressed internationally, we are addressing it looking at the global trade regime and making adjustments to Global Trading practices. Would we do that with bribery . I dont think so. Would we do that with stolen assets out of the treasury . I dont think so. So, why are we doing it when it comes to these sort of trade practices . Wire we not putting them squarely in that category of corruption . That is something for discussion. Something i want to throw out there for people to think about. To bring that back to human rights, to give an example, the case that just came down, this billionch bank 8. 9 fine for evading u. S. Sanctions. Sanctions we put in place with respect to sudan. We put the sanctions in place with respect to sudan because the Sudanese Government was involved in genocide. And it was the u. S. s view that we did not want to have u. S. Dollars supporting that type of activity. So, we put the sanctions in place. It was an attempt by us to try and prevent the financing of the government perpetrating genocide. A big issue. A big human rights issue, right . Really met for a bank around the world was they could not do u. S. Dollar transactions with anybody in sudan, including the government. They could do euro transactions. Poundsuld do transactions, yen transactions, but not dollar transactions. Paribasection of bnp bank decided that was not something they were willing to comply with because that would be way too much of a cost on business to do that. The section of the bank that said, yeah, were going to come up with this intricate, impressive way of avoiding u. S. Actually thee, was trade finance group. The trade finance group was the group that could not bear not to do u. S. Dollar transactions with the Sudanese Government. And those were transactions with the Sudanese Government among others. It is important, that link between trade, trade finance and is torights corruption read it matters that much to that bank. Just to give you that sort of context. I will just end today by saying we at cfi are really pushing for a new target in me Sustainable Development goals, and that is to reduce those trade related illicit financial flows by 50 by 2030. And we are hoping