Hope the fbi has guardrails and how they will pursue investigations that do not target based on drug trafficker. What is a result, in 2021 we had over 100,000 drug overdoses and fentanyl crossing the border at 70 was about 70 of the 100,000. Thanks to the open borders, drug traffickers are poisoning our streets and killing our children. And they are trafficking innocent victims with reckless abandon. This administration is failing mr. Chairman could i have a minute to have a discussion with the fbi director. Of course. We just heard a half hour ago about how you have to leave it 1 30 when he announces meeting and he said we will have seven minute first rounds, three minutes second rounds, ive got seven people on my side of the aisle wanting their additional three minutes. Is there any reason we could not accommodate them for 21 minutes . Or whatever democrats want second rounds four. President i senator i have a flight im supposed to hightail it to after here i thought we would end it 1 30 so that is how we end up where we are. If it is your business trip you have your own plane. Can it wait a while . Sorry, to be honest, i have tried to make my break as fast as i could to get out of here. Took more than five minutes. This is a tight ship mr. Director. I do not recall mentioning a second round. I want to keep it as minimum as i can and be respectful of the fact that this is your third appearance in two years before the committee and i appreciate that very much. You want to make sure we do this at a regular basis. So i want to ask to stick to your seven minutes. Weve had violations of that but if we can stick with it i would appreciate it. And then we recognize senator go out of his way thank you chair durban. And director i think you for being here. I particularly appreciate your opening comments with respect to the 38,000. People that work in the fbi being good hardworking, honest people. Doing their job and doing a dangerous job. We have seen that with some of your testimony related to the loss of life. I will stick to my time or yield back a little bit more because my colleague senator lee cited concerns of that i have about past investigations. And senator cruz pointed out important issues that we can deal with. And i can submit questions for the record. I put a copy of this on your desk so you can see it. Because i did not have time to have it blown up but i talked about this at a Committee Hearing a week or so ago. A lot of your testimony talked about what a dangerous job it is for fbi and local Law Enforcement and state Law Enforcement last week i happened to do a google primary fundraising engine for democrats. We have an equivalent. They raised 513 Million Dollars between april 1 and june 30 this year. But the result came back to a sub page which is sponsored by black lives matter. In is called the 13. 12 mile run for justice. And so far they raised about 1. 1 million. And this is directly from the website. By 3. 1 two miles. Three point 12 equals aca be which equals all cops are bast roots. Bastards dismantling White Supremacy and demand telling the police. Do you think that all of them are bastards . Do you think that most of them are white supremacist . Absolutely not. Do you think that this is unhelpful to address the issue that you raised in your opening testimony about the safe security of Law Enforcement in this nation . I have a lot of things i would say about this and the message in it many of them are not appropriate for the hearing. It is a piece. I was thinking about senator cruzs comment. I could actually see based on the appeal, and it is still on the website, they are trying to raise 1. 1 three 2 million or 1. 1 million so far. It would seem to me, that the people that would actually say this and say that you should run around police stations to do 13 miles and that you should make noise to make yourself known. It seems to me they are rising and extremist organizations. That organization. And unlike blacks black lives matter black and blue i do not think that most people in black lives matter i think some of them are and the statements published on the internet to make Police Officers less safe may warrant an opportunity to have a black lives matter flag somewhere in the fbi saying not all of them are bad. Just like he said some of the people observing the civils of our nation are not all bad. Why would it not be logical to say the people that say this stuff could actually have a number or a small number for taking an extremist position that makes Law Enforcement less safe. It potentially instigates attacks against Law Enforcement officers. Whys that something the fbi should study and make that known that the community should look at this . I think comment number one, i want to be careful, im not commenting on First Amendment expression. But when it comes to violent extremism of any kind, it does not matter to me or us at the fbi of whether you are upset with the election or the results of our criminal justice system. You do not get to use violence to his express that sentiment. And we have put out intelligence products that we call violent extremism. Some of it is actually not advocated in spirit against the white race. But violent extremism is another way as well. In some instances, weve investigated those that brought charges. I hope you will. I will continue to monitor this and the fundraising process, this is not the last time this committee will see it. But as long as they are doing the stuff we have to call them out for it. The same way i would call out anyone at the other end of the spectrum for citing violence against anyone it is wrong and making the Community Less safe. Last question, be quick so i can yield back my time, can you give me an idea of anyone that has been held accountable who is involved in crossfire hurricane investigation and what actions have been taken and if any . We taken a whole slew of actions. Over 40 plus corrective measures. Is anybody in the bureau discipline . Theres a number of people in our office of professional responses. You may wonder why that has not yielded results yet and that is because we are working closely with cooperating closely with assisting the durham investigation. The whole process is not unusual. And it has slowed down to make sure he does not interfere with the durham investigation. Out want to thank every employer the hard work that they do and thank you mr. Chair. I know my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, i hope that they are wider to the American Public as a whole. I do not think americans understand the extraordinary work the fbi does. I want to thank you and know what it means every day that our officers are putting their lives on the live on the line to protect other americans. I know this from my work in 2006 when i took over the city was with the Jersey Office of the fbi. And i learned a lot about what they do for counterterrorism and dealing with the number one issue of my city. If i remember correctly it was 90 of residents concerned about their physical safety in communities as a rise in Gang Violence was happening. Here is the f ei working hand in hand with global Police Officers local Police Officers you and i both know the number one victims of gun violence in the United States are black and brown. And so, when folks say black lives matter, when folks say they are concerned about violence that we see in the communities, i want you to understand, and i know you do, there is a deep appreciation of Law Enforcement. There is a desire for more of Law Enforcement. That is one of the reasons i have a bipartisan bill to give resources to clear murders because a clearance rates in our cities are low. And i recognize the work you do and celebrate and thank you for the work you and your agents do. I also recognize how dangerous it is for law officers at a time these weapons are proliferated. Not one of the shootings one i can find in my city hundreds of shootings were done with someone who acquired a gun illegally. We are not talking about Second Amendment rights but we are talking about the ease in which people can get their hands on guns in the community. But i want to talk about the guy who walks through neighborhoods to come here that i know africanamerican that people put up an amount of subscribing to violence or whatever the internet meme is about. They say we have a disproportionate number of africanamericans that are dying and we should do something about it as a society. You understand that, correct . Yes. Collects one of the ways i found in running the Police Department when i was mayor of the city, is collecting data that helps you understand i want to drill into that because you have a lot of reporting in the area. The fbi under james comey they talked about how critical collecting data was in march of 2022 you said their participation by state and local Law Enforcement agencies has reached a reporting use of force 60 of force mandated by the omb to release that data. And the fbi plan to release certain aspects of the data. I am not sure why it has taken them so long to get to 60 participation at this data is important to understand the use in force. You agree with that, correct . Yes. And i try to message the importance of submitting data and the use of force data with local counterparts all across the country and the point i tried to make to them is discuss sins on this issue and use of force happen no matter what. We are better off if the this cautions happen on the cold hard data. Innovative everybody interest particularly Law Enforcement to get the data so we can have an accurate picture. Collects if you cannot measure it you cannot manage it. And it is estimated because we do not have the data that over 1000 people were shot and killed by the police every single year. Making no judgment on whether it is justified or not but you and i have seen the videos of unarmed people being shot and killed. We understand that this is not a number that Police Officers want to see they want to see the number as low as possible. Not having one officer fired their weapon was a very good year. That i am curious about something, since the fbi collects data on is this is resulting in death or serious Bodily Injury is that type of reporting burdensome on agencies . It depends on the department. As you know from your past life, the kinds of departments nationwide range wildly in terms of their i. T. System it may vary from place to place. We try to do what we can to provide assistance to them to figure out how to do it more efficiently. And a low cost system. It is a critical tool. The better data we get, the better lawmakers can make decisions. I was interested in the data that was released in 2021. The number one reason some was subject to the force of a Police Officer was because of a failed to comply with verbal commands or other types of passive resistance. This is a more common display of threatening a Police Officer more it was failing to comply with verbal commands. Do you understand what kind of passive resistance can result in a person being shot by a Police Officer . I would have to give that were thought to give you a good answer on that one. Ok because i would really like to understand that. I talked to my lease officers and they tell me that they have training on the issue they do not have to use force if they were better trained. They may be justified in that but the importance of that. It is a general matter. Yeah ok. 40 percent of state and local agencies did not successfully report fraud including the new york and the majority populous states. The low Participation Rate complicates our ability to federally respond to the Public Safety trends and challenges that is a yes or no question you agree with that, right . Yes we need complete data as possible. It is in everybodys interest to give the most comprehensive and accurate picture. Class a month ago i think the q hoping you will respond asking questions about the fbis plans to increase her dissipation and reporting and communicating the importance of that. I hope that you can engage. Because as a manager, i cannot manage something that i cannot measure. I am hoping that is being prioritized. I would like to say in conclusion, you have been phenomenal in responding to me and engaging with the own staff. Especially getting women and minorities moving up in the ranks at the fbi. We have been grateful that the attention you give into this and engagement with my office i would ask that you would continue to do that because you and i agree when it comes to gender, religion, and Race Diversity we are not where we want to be. And we know from policing how powerful it is in Building Trust and achieving our goal in Public Safety to approve of women and minorities in Public Safety. I know you would agree. I agree. We have a long way to go even though we are making strides. I8 knowledge that are both men. Thank you chairman. We appreciate that. From several that have question you. There appears to be a perception that we have two tiers of justice. And one is for people that are favored and one that is for ordinary americans and that his come through many of the questions you have heard from us. I want to ask you a few things so that we can get it on the record. And it may help restore faith in the bureau. And the work they are trying to do. Americans looked at what they perceived to be and i think rightly so a ton of money that was wasted on the russia investigation. Do you agree that the allegation of secret collusion between President Trump and russia was a hoax . Yes or no . I do not think that is the terminology i would use, but i think there is a lot on this subject. And both special counsels would report yes or no. Yes but that is not a term i would use. Do you agree that the laptop was not and for disinformation . Now you are asking about an Ongoing Investigation that i expect our folks to pursue aggressively and i cannot comment on that. And you possess the laptop, right . I cannot answer that. When do we expect to hear from general durham with his report . That is a question for special counsel durham. We are actively assisting him in that investigation. Do you agree that an open border is a National Security threat . As i said in response i think theres serious Security Issues on the border and a wide range of criminal rents we are concerned about at the fbi. And that transitions from everything in game violence, yes the county continues to tell me last friday i was with seven different counties and the number one issue for them is an open order and the presence of drug traffickers. Drugs, human trafficking, they talk about the cartels that have set up hubs. They can tell you where the drugs are coming from that are coming into the community. Human mention 300 taskforces you have. Do you have one that is specific to this . I was surprised yesterday with mr. Polito who was before us for the Criminal Division they did not seem to have one that was focused specifically on these cartels. We at the fbi have a number of things focused on that. We have what we call our talk program which is an organized criminal program and another program is focused on the western hemisphere of cartels. Thank you. Theres a number of taskforces they are. I think one of the things that has concerned me is the number of terrorists that are coming across that border. So far in fiscal year 22, weve had 56. There were 15 noncitizen terrorists across in 21, three in 2020, and zero in 2019. What are you all doing to help apprehend these individuals . Senator holland talked with you about the afghan refugees. People remember what happened on 9 11. They remember what happened to see this number of terrorist that are coming across that border and into the country, how are you tracking, monitoring, apprehending, and investigating these individuals . There are two things i would say. One is that we are constantly sharing information with dhs and our partners to improve Border Security in that regard. And second, through george Terrorism Task forces across the country we are investigating any number of individuals here in the u. S. Attempting to put together cases. Let me ask you this once a local sheriff reports to an Fbi Field Office that they have someone they think is a bad actor, how long does it take you all to do that . You use the term audit, assessment, an investigation. How long does it take you to respond to that and get these going . As you could imagine it depends on the circumstances. We give investigations the same day. Let me move on and you can send that to me in writing. I want to get to the issue on china with you. We continue to be concerned and i appreciate your intention to china, but we are continuing to see beijing, the Chinese Communist party, not the people, but the Chinese Communist party on the u. S. Government disrupt our military operations. Are you all working with the department of defense to address the threat of equipment that is coming in. And we know the Chinese Communist party is buying property and farmland near our military installations and our sensitive infrastructure. Are you all on top of that . We are working closely with a number of department agencies. There is a lot happening in this case. One of the things i would suggest is my