Are doing training with one of the challenges is the efforts have not been wellintegrated or catalogued. So its hard for a lot of people to really get their hands around all of the activities that are ongoing. I think your point is absolutely valid and that we do need to make sure that we provide these resources and this is something that we are good at. But really to do this effectively they probably are going to have to really encourage a lot more International Leadership than we have seen today. Thank you for that comment. I think it really helps concentrate the will of the institution to step forward into this type type of training. Its a fairly major effort of foot involves in the institute for mr. Armstrong himself is one of the board of trustees to put a Major Program together related to the training, training the trainers and training individuals and this is actually going to get started in a major way tonight and already has senior level institutional support. The real question is how quickly can we act because your question is we need these people now. There are people who want to be trained and everybody going to the cdc is just a little bit of a trickle. It helps us to concentrate the urgency to put these programs together. Do you have a question . Good morning. The ebola has created a lot of and sierra leone. In sierra leone there are over 50,000. [inaudible] are there any plans in place to take care of orphans who have lost family members to ebola . s. I dont of any large plans but its certainly something that was highlighted in, by the, team and unicef so it is part of what they have asked us to do as well as the Community Mobilization team to look at what you do with orphans and also actually theres a lot of stigmatization around survivors as well as well as a lot of psychosocial trauma among caregivers. There is a need to have that kind of program to address those kinds of concerns for orphans as well as for survivors and caregivers. I think thats something that is going to emerge and something we are working on. Again i think we are a small part of what has to be a larger effort. I know the save the children is working on this very topic and is try to bring awareness. Those are two organizations. Save the children would be a good place to look for those efforts and where they are. Lets take one last question. My name is Catherine Bertram and my question is in relation to a slide from trish pearl map showing the three stages trish pearl and it looked like the slide that was in the latter stage where your immune system is going to kick and are not. My question is what do we know about cases where maybe the immune system kicks enduring the earlier stages or if there are cases where there are mild symptoms that present where the regular immune system kicks in . I think theres going to be a little bit of discussion in the next session about some of this if you care about the people are given serum early on in the illness and its an attempt to neutralize anybody early on. I think that theres a sense that this act acts like a lot of ordinary viruses and that you can modulate the immune system in a way to impact not only the severity but even perhaps the development of infection. The other types of interventions that are going on is they are vaccinated people early on after exposure to see if they can prevent also the severity of illness. I would say there is not a lot known about the pathophysiology and one of the things a lot of the Research Community is trying to do better understand the mechanisms of illness given this is the first time the developed world in a large way is involved in the care and having access. I think theres a lot to come but i know dr. Jahrling will be speaking about some of these issues in the next session. Thank you very much. Texas officials discuss their plans on how to deal with undocumented minors. 7 00 a. M. , your calls and comment on washington journal. And executive Vice President of the planned parenthood action fund. She will talk about the role of planned parenthood in 2014 and how it plays out and political campaigns this year. The cspan cities tour takes place in u. S. Cities on the road to learn about their history and literary life. We parted partnered with Time Warner Cable for a visit to wisconsin. Not only the most cheese but also the best cheese. In wisconsin there is the homestead cheese were everybody eats cheese and it is recognized that we had an ideal environment and cheese was really just a way to take that perishable product when refrigeration would only last three days, if you make it into cheese, Cheddar Cheese can last for a decade. The 1880s when the industry got started in wisconsin. They would build a Cheese Factory and hire a cheese maker and the cheese maker would work for the cooperative. Cheesemakers tend to move around a lot and there were thousands of them. And a 1930s there were 2000 cheese plants in wisconsin. There was consolidation among the small plants and that continued until 1990 whenever only 200 cheese factories in wisconsin. Only 200here were cheese factories in wisconsin. As i wrote this book i realized that some of the rules we had for the war on terror we used in prison systems and i notice these policies and i started looking at what was happening in the prudence system and that led me to start teaching the prison system and led me to another book on solitary confinement. Psychologists and psychiatrists have studied what happens to a person and they develop these one psychologist calls it the shoe syndrome. ,orrible paranoia aggressiveness, i sense that yourself is disintegrating. Weve heard about the bodily harm they do to themselves in solitary confinement, selfmutilation, the feces they put on the door, this deterioration of your sense of self, no more respect for yourself and to damage your body. Empiricalve strong evidence that it makes people better, i have anecdotal evidence and people i talk to, and i see it as more of a spiritual thing. It is very if to measure the spiritual effects. Watch all of our events on green at twoday afternoon eastern. Next a discussion about what to do about undocumented youth in the United States. We will hear from a tea party official, a county judge, a texas land commissioner and a woman who was the first undocumented latina to testify for congress. It was part of the annual Texas Tribune festival. It is one hour 10 minutes. Afternoon. Thank you for being here today. I am many fernandez. The Texas Tribune, im very happy to to the fourthne annual Texas Tribune festival today, entitled what to do with the dreamers. Panelists are george baldor, a dallas businessman who started a website supporting the texas act, also known as hb1403. Is keephb1403. Com. Veronica escobar [applause] the county judge of el paso county. Top electedhe official in 2011. Pacheco,ave gabby Program Director of a National CollegeScholarship Fund for called thed students dream. Us. Last april, she became the first undocumented latina to testify before congress. [applause] we also have with us jerry patterson, the texas land commissioner. Former state senator who helped the Texas Republican Party adopt a more moderate on immigration in its 2012 official party platform. We also have george rodriguez, coordinator of the tea party patriots. Cohosted a show on raging elephants. Became the first hispanic president of a major Tea Party Group when he headed tea party. Onio we also have with us congressman represents who Congressional District 33 in the representatives. He has been an outspoken supporter of comprehensive Immigration Reform. In 2013, he invited an undocumented immigrant from texas, one of the first undocumented students to pursue a Higher Education in texas, right here at ut austin, to be at president obamas state of the union address. Today will last 60 minutes and well include time for 15 to 20 minutes of the audience. Id like to ask everyone to phone. Silence your in june of 2001, texas became the first state in the country to adopt a law allowing paycumented students to instate tuition rates to attend public universities. Been efforts in the legislature to repeal this law of them haveut all failed so far. Conservative activists and lawmakers will try once more this coming legislative session to stop what has become known as dream act. The Texas Republican Partys calls for014 platform repealing the law. Nationally, meanwhile, reformensive immigration has stalled in washington, as dreamers and other advocates are anssing congress for overhaul that would create a formal path to citizenship for who came here as children. Dreamers have become an influential political voice, appearing on the cover of Time Magazine and playing a key role shaping immigration policy. Gabby, id like to start with you, if i could. Sure. Who are the dreamers, and how many are there in the United States . So there are about 2. 1 dreamers who came to the United States when they were children. Usually categorized as people who came to the United States before the age of 16. We have seen different d. R. E. A. M. Act legislation. Of the students do follow that criteria. These are students that have public schoolur systems. These are students that identify thatthe american culture, categorize themselves as americans, and they seek the able to oneto be day be able to get a green card years,efully, after five apply for citizenship. Askongressman, if i could you, youve theres a lot of dreamers out there for to get a path, a formal path to citizenship. Youve made some of the economic arguments. Economicsome of the arguments that you would make . I think some of the biggest oneomic arguments that could make is, you know, most of the dreamers are educated here in texas. And they have gone to our public schools. Taxes,arents have paid sales tax and other taxes, and here. E educated but, you know, people dont want to give them a path to citizenship so they can even be productive citizens in our society. And i just to me, that sense for usany not to want to do everything we talent come out of the shadows and even make the American Economy stronger. It just makes sense to give these dreamers chance. Dreamers evenese want to serve in the military an nationale to our security. Why not give them that opportunity, when they want to participate like everybody else else . Me get you to jump in here. Wrong with hb 1403 in texas . Get the skunk on the table and just ask the question. What part of the word illegal do you not understand . The problem weve got is illegal immigration. Here we go. To let me talk . The problem that weve got is illegal immigration. To only way were ever going stop illegal immigration is to magnates in the United States. This texas dream act is one of those. The other thing weve got to to stop apologizing for for beingervative, americans. And somehow feeling that we are orphanage fore the rest of the world. We cant do that. The reality is that we need to of this emotion, because everybody has got a sob everybody. There are billions of sob stories in the world about people who want to come to the United States. And thats understandable. We are the greatest country in the world. At what point do we say we control who comes in and who we have all why sorts of excuses, while we have allsorts of allowances, sorts of justifications, for what ageegardless of they came to the United States illegally, thats the problem. What weve got right now, you cannot enter a spurs game without a ticket. Cant enter a ut game without a ticket. Why is that different for entering the United States . Commissioner, can i ask you to jump in . Well, you know are georges views on the of the Republican Party or is it on the mainstream . All republican voters, i think and the term extreme was lets say far right. Lets dont say extreme. I think if you take all voters, considerablyight, to the right. Correction. If you take all voters im here. Ing myself all voters primary voters, hes in the middle. My point, id like to ask inrge, though, is we talk these, you know, all,andwhite first of theyre illegal but they didnt break any laws when they came here. Any kids . You have if you went to rob a bank and carried your sixyearold with you, would they be guilty of bank robbery . [applause] robbing a bank is still bank. G a its breaking the law. But the child didnt break the law when they got to be taken away, though. Heres an interesting no, no. What you are saying is that because i commit the crime, then is some reason, the child not responsible . But were thats exactly what im saying. [laughter] what were talking about here is not that type of a situation. Come int they have illegally. They did not. The child did not. They did child did not. The parents came in illegally. They were brought in as contraband. Youre saying youre the children were brought in illegally . Illegally. Here what part of that dont you understand . Ill grant you that. Ill grant you that. I grant you that their status is illegal, but those who were wereht here when they below the age of majority by their parents broke no law, so in other words, when i hear this so in other words when i hear this mantra. Innocent . re yes, they are. And were gonna leave them alone . I didnt say that, george. Finish. They are here illegally. They broke no laws. Distinction. If they are here illegally, i agree with you on that. They didnt break any laws coming here. Are we going to do about it . The real question is, what are do . Oing to and if to prevent any more from coming. A situation near el paso where a twoyearold child was sent out, just across the border. Are you going to keep that from happening anymore . You know, can you answer . What do we do . Them . We deport i would hey, until you the law as strong as possible, you are always going immigration. Al but my question is, the topic is dreamer, what do we do . Them . Deport i would say yes. Okay. There you have it. I would say yes, because the same argument that mark made a little while ago about how are for thehey United States, the same argument can be made about them going lands. Their native they can be beneficial to their home lands. Heres the point. I want to carry on that. Have boldly and i admire you for doing this. Boldly because im the only one that will speak this way. No. Yeah politicians are afraid. You have boldly taken a position. I admire you for doing so. Like people to stand up and have a belief system. Advocated that we deport the dreamers. Illegals, the other undocumented here . Until we deport everyone deportour position is we 12 Million People. Do you want to live in a country that has enough police power, in ruby of what happened at ruben ridge, in light of that. Ant jerry to repeat youre saying that the cops are bad . Im saying that too many cops are bad. Okay. All right. My local lawth in enforcement, in the dps, in the city. , in the i dont have as much faith in federal law enforcement, because ive seen what they do. A classic example. Can you talk about your own status and views and thoughts when george was talking about what to do with the dreamers . Currently i have a program called d. A. C. A. It allows me to be in the country with a lawful presence years. Its renewable. And in december, ill be renewing that. Was to be given a chance to get in line, which is another line that we usually hear, i would do it. I would gladly do it. I dont think anybody in the havery he doesnt not like living in fear. We do not like being afraid of calling the police when theres because were afraid theyre going to ask us for our documentation. Like not knowing that the uncertainty of whats going to happen to us not being able to contribute, not being able to 2010, thelone, in unauthorized were providing 1. 6 billion dollars in taxes. And today, when i was buying my lunch, the guy, nick, i didnt nick, im, hey, undocumented, please do not tax me. Thats just not a reality, right . We pay taxes. Were contributing members to the society. [applause] that one of the things thats really simple, if we talk about it, like george ticket. Ng, a right . But there are people that are standing in the line, that are saying, come in. Our people in businesses saying lets go. You know, we need more people to work here. And its this is not as simple as somebody having a ticket or not. The reality is that the United States has broken immigration laws. Reality is that there is a magnate and its called calledses and its politicians who do not want to fix this issue. Put it so simple when we know this issue is very yes, this issue creates a lot of emotions, because were not just talking about a number. Not talking about 1 Million People 12 million were talking about individual lives, mothers and fathers and workers, individuals a degree,f who have who is contributing, wants to be limitedre, but is because there is no system. Me to get away for green card. I got d. A. C. A. When i was given an opportunity to get some sort of status. But theres nothing else from that. For too long,t even i think the argument that george makes is an emotional one. A rational one that opens up for dialogue and opens up to have our elected ted cruz, whoe doesnt necessarily bring a solution. Deporting 12 Million People is not a solution. Were not going to be able to do it. We dont have the manpower. The dollars. And frankly, there are a lot of hiringwho are undocumented people that want to be able to have those people have legal status because they workforce theyd are. But they cant. Congressman, do you hear a of georges argument among the republicans in congress, or do you hear Something Different . I mean, there are certainly of congress i mean, the